[mailop] anyone from HostUS on the list

Hey, I tried to contact them via webform and abuse@ address without success. Cheers, Stefan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

[mailop] zero-day word exploit

Does anyone have a copy (or copies of) of the initial doc that this exploit uses? http://thehackernews.com/2017/04/microsoft-word-zero-day.html Thanks, Dave -- Dave Lugo dl...@etherboy.comLC Unit #260 TINLC Have you hugged your

Re: [mailop] zero-day word exploit

On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 11:31 -0400, Dave Lugo wrote: > Does anyone have a copy (or copies of) of the initial doc that > this exploit uses? Wrong list perhaps?! Ken. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/l

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2017 13:07, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." > wrote: > This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would report spam on > NANAE; is there a managed, moderated mailing list to report spam, that has

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Apr 9, 2017 13:07, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." wrote: >> This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would report spam on >> NANAE; is there a managed, moderated mailing list to report spam, that has >> the main ESPs and s

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

> Reporting spam in public just makes it harder for the abuse desks to > handle thing. If there is a working abuse desk, then abuse@ is fine. If > there’s not, reporting in public is performance art at best. > > laura A very big +1 to this Its a self pleasing act that does nothing ___

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017, at 09:15, Laura Atkins wrote: > >> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Apr 9, 2017 13:07, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." >> wrote: >>> This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would report >>> spam on NANAE; is there a managed, moderated m

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

> On Apr 10, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. > wrote: > > > >>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >>> >>> On Apr 9, 2017 13:07, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." wrote: >>> This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would report spam on >>> NANAE; is there a ma

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

ARF. And a way to establish contacts automatically. Biggest issue in some places (*cough*) is getting the traffic sent OUT. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

[mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

Hi Anne, > This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would > report spam on NANAE; is there a managed, moderated > mailing list to report spam, that has the main ESPs and such > on it? I cant see the need for one, abuse@ (or whatever is listed in whois) works fine most of the time to

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

> Hi Anne, > >> This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would >> report spam on NANAE; is there a managed, moderated >> mailing list to report spam, that has the main ESPs and such >> on it? > > I cant see the need for one, abuse@ (or whatever is listed in > whois) works fine mos

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On Apr 10, 2017 12:15, "Laura Atkins" wrote: On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Apr 9, 2017 13:07, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." wrote: This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would report spam on NANAE; is there a managed, moderated mailing list to report spam, t

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

> On Apr 10, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Michael Wise via mailop > wrote: > >   <> > ARF. > And a way to establish contacts automatically. I KNOW! Let’s put it in DNS! _abusecontact.example.com TXT 3600 abuse _abusecontact.example.net

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

It might be helpful to understand why people want to post on email forums rather than an abuse desk. Is it to gain public attention on the matter? Is there a bit of shaming going on and the reporter wants the community to know they are fed up with the ESP? Are people reporting on public forums b/c

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On 4/10/17 11:21 AM, Ryan Harris via mailop wrote: It might be helpful to understand why people want to post on email forums rather than an abuse desk. To get community feedback. In far too many cases, abuse desk responses are automated "Thank you for your report, don't expect a personal resp

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On 2017-04-10 17:15:38 (+), Michael Wise via mailop wrote: And a way to establish contacts automatically. What's wrong with the well-known abuse@ address? Or postmaster@? If abuse@ bounces, I try postmaster@. If that bounces, I'm not interested in receiving mail from that network. Q

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Would need a touch more than that, though. There’d have to be some kind of signup process, and the handing out of Plus Addresses so rogue traffic could be blocked at the edge. But with a touch more thought, I suspect this would work nicely. All except the actual getting legal to bless outbound.

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

You're missing the larger issue of having abuse and postmaster flooded with spam. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: Philip Paeps [mailto:phi...@trou

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On 2017-04-10 19:01:34 (+), Michael Wise wrote: Philip Paeps wrote: On 2017-04-10 17:15:38 (+), Michael Wise via mailop wrote: And a way to establish contacts automatically. What's wrong with the well-known abuse@ address? Or postmaster@? You're missing the larger issue of havi

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

There certainly needs to be operator to operator contact. But unless the pipes are secured, which the idea of dedicated +addresses for both sender and recipient accomplishes at a light-weight level ... Separating the wheat from the chaff will get way out of hand ... instantly. Aloha, Michael. -

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On 2017-04-10 19:24:39 (+), Michael Wise wrote: Philip Paeps wrote: On 2017-04-10 19:01:34 (+), Michael Wise wrote: Philip Paeps wrote: On 2017-04-10 17:15:38 (+), Michael Wise via mailop wrote: And a way to establish contacts automatically. What's wrong with the well-know

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:21:45 -0600, Ryan Harris via mailop said: > It might be helpful to understand why people want to post on email forums > rather than an abuse desk. Is it to gain public attention on the matter? Is > there a bit of shaming going on and the reporter wants the community to > kno

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On 2017-04-10 21:50:01 (+0200), valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:21:45 -0600, Ryan Harris via mailop said: It might be helpful to understand why people want to post on email forums rather than an abuse desk. Is it to gain public attention on the matter? Is there a bit of sh

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

> Posting the spam itself on forums is pretty much pointless. And to be clear, nobody was suggesting that (and if my original note seemed to suggest that, I apologize). > > On the other hand, having a forum where you can ask "Are the guys who > are supposed to be dealing with ab...@robot-peng

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

Sufficiently advanced Incompetence is indistinguishable from Malice. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: Philip Paeps [mailto:phi...@trouble.is] Sent:

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

> On Apr 10, 2017, at 1:01 PM, Philip Paeps wrote: > > On 2017-04-10 21:50:01 (+0200), valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:21:45 -0600, Ryan Harris via mailop said: >>> It might be helpful to understand why people want to post on email forums >>> rather than an abuse desk.

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

> On Apr 10, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > >> >> On Apr 10, 2017, at 1:01 PM, Philip Paeps wrote: >> >> On 2017-04-10 21:50:01 (+0200), valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >>> >>> >>> On the other hand, having a forum where you can ask "Are the guys who are >>> supposed to be dealing

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On 2017-04-10 13:11:51 (-0700), Steve Atkins wrote: On Apr 10, 2017, at 1:01 PM, Philip Paeps wrote: On 2017-04-10 21:50:01 (+0200), valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:21:45 -0600, Ryan Harris via mailop said: It might be helpful to understand why people want to post on ema

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:50:01 -0400 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On the other hand, having a forum where you can ask "Are the guys who > are supposed to be dealing with ab...@robot-penguins.xyz merely clueless > or actively rogue?" or "Does anybody have a contact at > helium-filled-cows.com?"

[mailop] Fwd: Obsolete NSA exploit for Postfix 2.0 - 2.2

FYI Forwarded Message Subject: Obsolete NSA exploit for Postfix 2.0 - 2.2 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 16:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Wietse Venema To: Postfix users CC: Postfix announce A recent twitter post reveals the existence of an exploit for Postfix, in a collection of what app