It might be helpful to understand why people want to post on email forums
rather than an abuse desk. Is it to gain public attention on the matter? Is
there a bit of shaming going on and the reporter wants the community to
know they are fed up with the ESP? Are people reporting on public forums
b/c they want to know if others are experiencing the same problem?

I think there are good reasons to post spam on a forum, though the ones I
see seem to be more about shaming and wanting quick action, rather than
something more overarching and community reaching.

It almost sounds like a community FBL should be set up rather than an email
forum. I suppose people could use spamcop, though they provide very limited
information to ESPs.

I really like the idea of using DNS to inform the community where to send
abuse reports. Sometimes I see issues Ops teams needing to receive reports
from those querying whois records. This can cause routing issues sometimes.
Also there isn't typically an abuse only contact in whois records. Seems
Tech, Admin, Registrant are what crops up in a whois lookup.


Ryan

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Laura Atkins <la...@wordtothewise.com>
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> On Apr 10, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
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> ARF.
> And a way to establish contacts automatically.
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>
> I KNOW! Let’s put it in DNS!
>
> _abusecontact.example.com <http://abusecontact.domain.com> TXT 3600 abuse
> _abusecontact.example.net TXT 3600 ab...@example.com
>
> That will solve EVERYTHING!
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>  Biggest issue in some places (*cough*) is getting the traffic sent OUT.
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>
> Isn’t that part of what X-ARF is supposed to address?
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