Hi,
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 03:53:42PM -0700, James Renken via mailop wrote:
> As a heads up, Google Chrome's root program is requiring TLS certificate
> authorities to remove the "TLS Client Authentication" Extended Key Usage
> (EKU) from certificates by June 2026. Let's Encrypt will stop includi
Hi,
On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 02:56:24PM -0700, Alex Burch via mailop wrote:
> Does anyone here work at a UK ISP, even better a m3aawg UK ISP?
I'm sure you'll get some responses but if not you could try asking on
netuk, which is the NANOG-style equivalent for UK.
https://lists.netuk.org/sympa/
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 04:33:32PM +0200, Benoit Panizzon via mailop wrote:
> We keep being nagged by Validity to reach an agreement for the use of
> DNS RBL they manage despite having already been in contact with them
> and sorted the issue short time ago be removing all their blacklists
> fr
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 11:29:58AM +1000, Simon Wilson via mailop wrote:
> as there was discussion back in November about Validity's usefulness
> on this list am posting it here too.
What bothers me more than Validity's decision to reduce their free
offering to 10k queries per month is the fa
Hi,
On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 08:42:22AM -0500, Lyle Giese via mailop wrote:
> Let's Encrypt requires (according to documentation I have seen) Port 80 TCP
> be in use for verification.
You can instead use DNS-01 challenges (with Let;s Encrypt and compatible
services) which only require you to put a
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 12:27:52PM +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
> Dnia 3.01.2025 o godz. 11:55:10 Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop pisze:
> > I have put googlegroups.com and groups.google.com to my local rhsbl
> > list and use it at both MTA and spamassassin level (uribl checks
> >
Hi,
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 12:16:55AM +0100, Philipp Kern via mailop wrote:
> On 11/22/24 8:37 PM, Miles Fidelman via mailop wrote:
> > So, one answer to my problem is just to set up a copy of sendmail with
> > local delivery to an IPFS file. But, that leads me to wonder if anybody
> > is offeri
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 10:54:27AM +0100, Benoît Panizzon via mailop wrote:
> So registering IPv6 addresses is useless as they are not being
> considered, despite their DNS being reachable via IPv6?
It was me who posted the recent thing about the response from Validity
saying they are removin
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 07:04:58PM -0800, Mark Milhollan via mailop wrote:
> they do not seem to support queries via IPv6 -- the queries for a test
> address all succeed when made via IPv4 but all fail when made via IPv6
> (e.g., using -4 vs -6 with dig +trace 2.0.0.127.$dnsbl)
Well ultimatel
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 01:31:20PM +1300, Peter via mailop wrote:
> They still have entries for their servers.
Ah yes. Well that's something, at least.
Since v6 is typically used first on dual stack, and resolvers being
infrastructure are probably amongst the first things to be v6-enabl
Hi,
On 15 October I noticed from my logs that some queries to Validity's DNS
lists were being blocked. I was somewhat surprised as I find it hard to
believe that we did over 10k queries in 30 days, very far from it I
expect. And we do operate our own resolvers of course, so it's not a
public resol
Hi Sebastian,
On Sat, Nov 02, 2024 at 06:45:13PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
> My blocklist is:
>
> /\.(accountant|accountants|asia|auto|berlin|bid|buzz|camera|car|cam|cars|casa|cfd|christmas|click|club|college|computer|country|cricket|cyou|date|design|download|exposed|email|fail|f
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 04:12:26AM +0800, horizon--- via mailop wrote:
> intelligence agencies and counter-terrorism organizations,
> requesting personal information of a certain user. How should we
> respond in this situation?
After verifying these people are who they say they are, either yo
Hi Aban,
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:38:31PM +0200, Aban Dokht via mailop wrote:
> Andy Smith via mailop wrote:
> > Has anyone noticed anything odd going on with reporting things
> > through SpamCop with regard to bondedsender?
>
> Yes, there is a topic in the forum a
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 09:44:09PM +0200, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
> Am 12.07.2024 um 12:36:10 Uhr schrieb Mark E. Jeftovic:
> > You'd need to be able to break down which unit is generating the spam.
>
> I think abuse reports will be fine for that.
We typically want to identify the prob
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 07:24:23PM +0800, Jeff Peng via mailop wrote:
> My mail server for domain simplemail.co.in has a ptr with the azure domain
> as value:
>
> $ dig mx.simplemail.co.in +short
> 20.120.225.36
>
> $ dig -x 20.120.225.36 +short
> tls-mail.westus2.cloudapp.azure.com.
There
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 04:56:29PM +0100, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
> Is there a reason for changing the content of the mail AND keeping the
> original DKIM signature?
>
> Wouldn't it be better to remove that and add mailop's own DKIM
> signature, that will pass?
Not speaking for the lis
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 12:48:25AM +, Alexander Huynh via mailop wrote:
> Would you consider your own /64 or /48 from RIPE?
The Local Internet Registry (sponsoring ISP) will charge you
something (recurring) for managing the Provider Independent
allocation.
If the need is only for one mai
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 01:30:53PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
> when the mail client tries to display the crap in the name field,
> it causes it to crash. Guess it tries to render Emoji in a field
> that is not designed to accept Emoji, thus it just silentcrash
> into desktop.
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 11:51:10PM +, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, John Levine via mailop wrote:
> > Everywhere else people use ASCII mail addresses, even though they are
> > often writing mail in non-ASCII character sets.
>
> I get plenty of non-ASCII charac
Hello,
On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 09:12:43AM +0100, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
> Am 04.03.2024 um 02:25:08 Uhr schrieb Gareth Evans via mailop:
> > From
> >
> > https://www.mailop.org/best-practices
> >
> > "Having SPF for your own domains is usually considered a weak signal
> > ..."
> >
> > E
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:23:22PM +, Gareth Evans via mailop wrote:
> (Error NOERROR looking up 23.24.6.165 PTR,Error Error NXDOMAIN looking
> up 23-24-6-165-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. A looking up
> 23-24-6-165-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. A,Error Error NXDOMAIN looking u
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 01:39:46PM -0800, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote:
> My question to you all is, do you think that the List-Unsubscribe=One-Click
> header is supported well enough these days such that I can replace the
> one-click unsub link in the message bodies with a link that require
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 02:44:43PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
> >> it basically makes it impossible to respond to the original email sender
>
> Nope, you just open the encapsulated email (open the .EML attachment), and
> respond to that.
Going back to my anecdote that last m
Hello,
On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 07:00:34AM +0100, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
> Am Thu, 8 Feb 2024 17:10:57 +
> schrieb Andy Smith via mailop :
>
> > Last month there was a complaint on the NANOG (North American
> > Network Operator's Group) that changing th
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 12:27:55PM +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
> I am always wondering - as Gmail gives so many problems that have been
> discussed multiple times - why anybody who has another mail account would
> want to use Gmail, and moreover - have his mail forwarded to Gmail? I
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 09:58:17AM +0100, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote:
> Unfortunately for us, Spamcop believe we are the one sending spam when they
> trace back the Received headers, because we are the last hop before landing
> to that user's inbox.
>
> Is there a way to tell in the he
Hi,
While trying to debug:
<[redacted]@yahoo.co.uk>: host mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net[188.125.72.74] said:
554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons. See
https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes (in reply to end of
DATA command)
I and others note that https://postmaster.ya
Hello,
On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 01:01:58PM +0200, Taavi Eomäe via mailop wrote:
> > And it seems none of the extra requirements do anything against
> spam, because the spammers can (and do, see above) easily implement
> all of those.
>
> I get the impression you can't see the forest for the trees.
Hello,
On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 10:45:04AM +0100, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote:
> Marco Moock via mailop skrev den 2023-12-17 09:00:
> > If they use forwarders, SPF will fail in the case the envelope sender
> > isn't rewritten. Check your logs for that.
>
> false, every forwarder changes envelo
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 04:29:30PM +0100, Raymond Dijkxhoorn via mailop wrote:
> > > Most organisations will reconsider after beeing blocked a few times due to
> > > non COI
>
> > But not the likes of SendGrid, Mailgun, Mailjet, ? which also makes
> > making the argument much more difficul
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 03:53:10PM +0100, Raymond Dijkxhoorn via mailop wrote:
> > Bill wrote:
> > If sending lots of mail to weakly engaged corespondents is your core
> > business, COI is not likely to be worthwhile in cold hard cash vs. what
> > I call "good faith single opt-in"
[…]
> M
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:54:13PM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote:
> X-mail_abuse_inquiries: http://www.salesforce.com/company/abuse.jsp
I reported a similar phishing spam to Salesforce a few days ago. I
can't believe in this day and age that the above URL in its first
paragraph on how to re
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 03:38:05PM -0700, Robert L Mathews via mailop wrote:
> see https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes
>
> According to that page,
>
> "- These errors indicate that the domain used to the right of the @ in the
> MAIL FROM does not appear to be a real domain.
> - We de
Hello,
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 11:26:25AM +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
> Dnia 11.07.2023 o godz. 09:05:42 Laura Atkins via mailop pisze:
> > B2B email requires a MX (like, if you don’t have an MX do you even email?)
>
> TECHNICALLY,
[…]
> These are Google requirements, not SMTP proto
Hi Dmytro,
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 02:28:33PM +0100, Dmytro Homoniuk via mailop wrote:
> 450 4.3.2 Local problem - couldn't query foobar blacklist
>
> I do think this very hypothetical example is a bit of an outlier. It's
> providing non-actionable information to the sending system: it should rea
Hello,
On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 10:18:26AM +, Louis Laureys via mailop wrote:
> I was with you until it was revealed you mention a blacklist in
> your response. Sendgrid assumes that the words in the response
> actually have something to do with the reason it's being
> temporarily rejected
The
Hello,
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:13:56PM -0500, Al Iverson via mailop wrote:
> What if we just got to the heart of the matter and admitted that
> greylisting is useless 2023?
For me that isn't the heart of the matter. I mean it's an
interesting discussion still, but what surprised me about this
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 08:03:40PM +0200, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote:
> how about elaborating a bit further on the whats and whys of your setup?
Maybe some of us could learn something from that, or maybe SendGrid
would consider that to be giving an advantage to competitors. Really
wha
Hi Todd,
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 09:31:58AM -0400, Todd Herr via mailop wrote:
> Yes, the DMARC protocol does describe the search for the organizational
> domain for the RFC5322.From domain in an email message.
Yep, got itnow; I want the subdomain policy ("sp"). Not sure how I
missed that, or the
Hi,
Let's say I have domain example.com with SPF, DKIM and DMARC
records. I've put an A record in there to point foo.bar.example.com
at someone else's IP address.
Probably some cron job or other automated task on that host has sent
an email from usern...@foo.bar.example.com that has ended up at
g
Why on Earth is Mailchimp allowing any client to send email with a
header like this? (Rhetorical question)
To: "Attached notify/ Hi Customer More 4759 USD on your Tron link
TRX account /// You private key "5.)seven 6.)fiber 3.)atom
4.)trial 7.)echo 9.)lock 1.)arch 2.)crime" "10.)day
Hello,
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 03:25:45PM -0600, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote:
> does anyone here even accept email from [MailJet] any more?
> Anybody see legitimate email coming through Mailjet
It's been pretty bad so we're scoring anything from
AS200069 and AS396479 +3.4 in SpamAssassin since
Hi Michael,
Yes, 139.162.167.107 is no longer banned. Thanks to you and whoever
else had a hand in sorting that out!
Cheers,
Andy
On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 05:08:41PM +, Michael Wise via mailop wrote:
> Pretty sure that file is long gone.
> And pretty sure that IP is now quite unblocked.
>
>
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 08:12:13PM +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote:
> Forwarding the mail to del...@messaging.microsoft.com so far hasn't
> produced a response but it's only been a short while.
Did eventually get an auto response from
del...@messaging.microsoft.com with a do-n
Hello,
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 06:52:20PM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote:
> We are still having problems with some IP addresses (Linode) that remain
> blocked by Microsoft and can't be unblocked by the
> del...@messaging.microsoft.com or the https://sender.office.com/ form.
>
> These are: 139.162
Hi Mary,
On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 11:25:06AM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote:
> Would it be possible for the two sides (blocklists and a
> cloud/hosting providers) to come together and have some kind of
> automated notification?
As a tiny hosting provider we already receive notifications from
SpamCop
Hello,
On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 12:16:29AM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote:
> It appears that Michael Butler via mailop said:
> >It looks like google is no longer accepting spam reports; all my spamcop
> >submissions now fail with something like this in the log ..
>
> I send lots of abuse re
Hello,
On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 08:25:57AM +0100, Rob Kendrick via mailop wrote:
> I gave up reporting abuse to Sendinblue 18 months ago. It was getting
> too much. A rare thing happened: everything from Sendinblue is refused
> for every customer. There have been no complaints.
I've had to whit
Hi Tom,
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:48:56AM +0100, Tom Sommer via mailop wrote:
> I don't disagree with the fact that the "Junk" button is made of evil, which
> is also why we do not permanently ban or block anything based on it (like
> some other e-mail providers do).
Back in November 2020 Simply
Hello,
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 10:09:14AM -0700, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2020, at 23:55, Andy Smith via mailop wrote:
> > Their mail server is at 85.119.83.252 (and 2001:ba8:1f1:f073::2, but
> > none of the eventual deliveries happen over IPv6).
>
> Are t
Hi,
I've got a customer running their own mail server who is
experiencing huge delays on *receiving* emails from btinternet.com
senders.
This is ongoing, and appears to be affecting all email to them from
all senders with a btinternet.com address. My customer is not
noticing any attempts by BT to
On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 12:10:43AM +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote:
> What's the "this" you mention? My comment that I should fix up SPF?
Response to Hotmail ticket:
Not qualified for mitigation
85.119.80.238
Our investigation has determined that the above IP
Hi Michael,
Given that the recipient can't be bothered to either fix the problem
that's causing the alerts, nor hit the button that silences the
alerts, I'm guessing they won't take any action on their side. I'm
fine with them not receiving these emails in that case, but I don't
want wider block l
Hi,
We have a customer who's been receiving Icinga (basically Nagios)
alerts every few hours for the last few days to their hotmail
address. The customer could/should have either addressed the
situation or halted the alerts, but they didn't and that's their
choice.
In the third day of this we've
Hello,
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 07:38:38AM -0400, micah anderson via mailop wrote:
> This can't be anything other than a pipeline for spammers, and it must
> work. I'm wondering if this can be shut down somehow, does it require
> policy changes at RIRs?
As an industry we haven't been massively suc
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 07:53:43PM +0800, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote:
> On 2020-08-19 18:24:30 (+0800), Andreas Schamanek via mailop wrote:
> >BTW, Mailman mm_cfg.py option `SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET` apparently mitigates
> >the DoS, too.
>
> We've also had some success in the past with raisin
Hi,
Not sure if this is the best place to mention this, but…
Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted
subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers.
There's so far been 160 attempted subscriptions for 69 unique email addresses.
These addresses never compl
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by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.9.0)
with esmtp id sauce-2544-1597663-1; 17 Aug 2020 11:32:54 + (GMT)
Message-ID: <20200817203728.96117de88be30...@chilitato.com>
From: "chiark.greenend.org.uk"
Subject: chiark.greenend.or
Hello,
On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 02:50:39PM -0700, Carl Byington via mailop wrote:
> It is bad enough that our local spamassassin rules add 5 points if the
> message is dkim signed by sendgrid.net.
Same here and it's extra frustrating because there is so much ham in
there as well. Just some SendGri
Hi Alexander,
On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 05:25:38PM +0200, Alexander Zeh via mailop wrote:
> > It would also be great if SendGrid would include an abuse reporting
> > URL in the headers of each message, specific to that message, i.e.
> > that passes along all info that SendGrid would need to identify
Hi Atro,
On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 05:37:26PM +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
> On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 02:15:07PM +0000, Andy Smith via mailop wrote:
> > At present the process is to just forward the mail to
> > abuse@sendgrid. It's great that they accept reports that
Hello,
On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 06:00:44AM +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
> Any chance SendGrid might amend its ticket system so that there would
> be autoreplies when tickets are created that showed issue numbers
> connected with the original request
It would also be great if SendGrid
Hello,
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 06:12:36PM +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
> Dnia 7.10.2019 o godz. 16:22:32 Andrew C Aitchison via mailop pisze:
> > But the basic problem remains; an AI has decided it doesn't like you.
[…]
> That's why there always should be a human who is able to correc
Hi Luis,
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 04:54:20PM -0700, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote:
> I guess I'm trying to say is that getting abuse complaints to the right
> hands, at scale, is way harder than it seems. "Streamlining" the process is
> hard,
No argument from me: no easy-seeming here! It's plain
Hi Al,
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 09:29:32AM -0500, Al Iverson via mailop wrote:
> You're new to a very old problem.
Yes it seems I am, as I've had a misunderstanding about SpamCop for
a really long time.
> I could probably find blog posts I wrote in 2003 complaining about
> how Spamcop chooses to
Hello,
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:07:21AM -0700, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote:
> On 8/27/19 03:54, Andy Smith via mailop wrote:
> >Last week or so I noticed that I can no longer send SpamCop reports
> >to a large hosting provider. The option now shows up as:
>
Hello,
Are there any representatives of SpamCop here?
Last week or so I noticed that I can no longer send SpamCop reports
to a large hosting provider. The option now shows up as:
abuse#example@devnull.spamcop.net
with no explanatory text.
In the past when I have seen this, I have assumed t
Hello,
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:09:10PM -0600, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop
wrote:
> Something has changed in the past several weeks so that email from Mailop now
> comes:
>
> From:
> To: mailop@mailop.org
>
> Whereas before the change the email would come:
>
> From: Anne Mitchell
>
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