RE: garageband accessibility

2009-12-01 Thread Ginny Owens
The labeled buttons are for Logic 9. Ginny is not nearly as smart as the labeled buttons would lead you to believe. She probably can't answer many questions. Seriously, quite a bit of L9 is accessible, I'm just still deep in the throws of learning how to "skin the cat" as it were. Ginny Owe

RE: garageband accessibility

2009-12-01 Thread Ginny Owens
Hey, Justin. They're up on the vimac audio list, or I can send them to you tomorrow when I'm on my Mac. Just lemme know. Ginny Owens Official site: http://www.ginnyowens.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/ginnyowens Be my fan on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ginny-Owens/767149273

Re: garageband accessibility

2009-12-01 Thread Esther
Hi Ginny, Thanks for replying. This was my mistake about Logic 9 vs. Logic Pro because the subject line of the thread where you posted about uploading the files was titled: "VO Buttons Labeled in GB5 and Logic Pro". And for Kevin, in order to avoid making Ginny repeat earlier posts about

Re: rdc

2009-12-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello, no. Sorry for the confusion. My friend can connect to my mac using a program called teamviewer. He has it on his pc and I have it on my mac. I however cant connect to his pc using this program so thats why i installed microsofts rdc client. I have not yet been able to try it with my friend

RE: garageband accessibility

2009-12-01 Thread Ginny Owens
Esther et al, My apologies for the misnomer. Tis indeed Logic 9, which may also be called Logic Pro Version 9? Not totally sure anymore. Good luck! Ginny Owens Official site: http://www.ginnyowens.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/ginnyowens Be my fan on Facebook: http://www.facebook.

RE: rdc

2009-12-01 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi can anyone give me a link what I can download the Mac RDP client that will work with Snowy? Thanks Frank -Original Message- From: anouk radix [mailto:anou...@home.nl] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: rdc Hello, yes I have instal

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Scott Howell
Wow, what a deal, I'd love to have gotten one for Christmas. In order to buy one for myself, my wife told me I had to buy her one as well. :) The one thing that made this purchase well worth it is when she needed some help, I could easily turn VoiceOver on and help her with her phone. That was n

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Scott Howell
Ah lets not mix issues here. I think there is a good argument to an insurance company paying some portion of a screen reader if they cover things like wheelchairs etc. At the risk of spinning this into an issue of politics, one is something you have no control over and the other you do to a larg

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, I totally agree with much that you're saying. That's why i don't educate or inform people anymore, it's simply not worth the bother. People say that when people are prejudiced or ask stupid questions or are plain downright rude, it's because they aren't educated enough, but i've learned when

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Krister Ekstrom
That reminds me of what happened when i showed the iphone at a big vendors show here in Sweden. I got told that this was a new device and that people most likely never would switch because "blind people should use physical buttons, nothing more". Some said that this was a modern design interface

Mac Useless for low vision users?

2009-12-01 Thread Declan
I am wondering if the mac is realy useful for low vision users I was unable to find any mainstream office programs that would track the cursor with the built in zoom function. This is a re-post of an earlier message that had no responses. Are there any Office Programs on the Mac that track the cu

Havinga problem setting up rule for attachments with Apple Mail

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi folks, I am having a problem with Apple Mail. I want to set up a Mailbox for attachments, which I have done successfully. However, I cannot seem to select the correct rule to force messages with attachments into the correct folder. Currently, I have the "any attachment" rule selected, with n

The vo-bs mailing list

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
Hi, Because the viphone, MacVisionaries and MacVoiceOver lists all have specific purposes, we launched the vo-bs mailing list where conversations not appropriate to the actual meat of these other lists can go. Sometimes when a thread gets off topic, it is moved for further comment to the vo-bs

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
Senators Harkin, Hagel, the late Kennedy and Feingold (perhaps others) did discuss an access technology provision but got slapped down by both parties for adding cost to the bill. Some might argue that the ADA restoration act of 2008 (signed by President Bush in August of last year without muc

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
I CC'd the bs list on this post and I think we should probably move it there... The operative phrase in your post is "from your employer" which points us to a chicken and egg problem - people can't get jobs until they learn to use a screen reader and they can't really get a screen reader (or com

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
Hi, This should also go to the bs list to which I CC'd my response... I don't think I said "born blind" but, rather, blind at an early age versus into adulthood. Your comments on the resources that a community can muster, though, are entirely true. Even in the small towns, though, those blind

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
NFB does not actually try to push people toward JAWS and Windows. Their Macintosh/VO review was a pathetic example of poor journalism but they do and say rather mean things about lots of other products from FS and elsewhere. At one NFB convention, because OpenBook had fewer features in the Span

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
According to NFB numbers, there are 1.5 blind people and about 10 million low vision in the US. With a total population of over 300 million, we are an absolutely tiny fraction of the population. cdh On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:50 PM, carlene knight wrote: > Unfortunately you have to be realistic tho

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread JC Helary
On 1 déc. 2009, at 23:37, Chris Hofstader wrote: > According to NFB numbers, there are 1.5 blind people and about 10 million low > vision in the US. With a total population of over 300 million, we are an > absolutely tiny fraction of the population. For people who rely on niche devices that i

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
I am so sick of teaching random citizens about guide dogs, blindness, that I don't need a wheelchair or assistance walking up a jet way, how I can dial a telephone, how I can pee into a urinal without missing - you name it, that I can almost explode. An anecdote: In Harvard Square, the rapid t

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
That phone, called Oasis in the US, was an entirely private venture although they did get a loan from Once in Spain on which I think they defaulted. I am good friends with one of the people who led the organization here in the US and she's using an iPhone these days. As I've said, a mass marke

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
My ultimate trigger are the people who ask, "does he want a braille menu?" or something similar as if I wasn't actually there. This is a real zero level interrupt for me that I need to fight hard not to blow out a sequence of profanity (I am originally from New Jersey where such language is pr

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
The Windows AT vendors and to a large extent some of the advocacy groups argue that MS should not try to include accessibility out of the box. The AT vendors want, of course to protect their turf, but do so with the notion that MS will screw it up and cannot be relied upon to actually make it w

Re: Mac Useless for low vision users?

2009-12-01 Thread Claire
Hi, I also use Zoom in conjunction with VoiceOver and I use Iworks (which is Apple's equivalent of Microsoft Office which is compatible with .doc, .xls and .ppt files). I quite like it and the cursor tracking works ok (it jumps a bit at times). I do agree though that there are less options and conf

Re: Mac Useless for low vision users?

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi Claire, If you check out the accessibility pages of the Apple website, you should be able tind a list of third party apps which may help you if you are a low vision user. TC James On 1 Dec 2009, at 15:26, Claire wrote: > Hi, > I also use Zoom in conjunction with VoiceOver and I use Iwork

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
This touches on something I neglected to say (shocking, isn't it? :) ) yesterday: Thinking outside the box, especially when around the sighted, often creates jealousy. This creates even more alienation; if you threatened the power elite by showing them that their power is at best illusory

RE: garageband accessibility

2009-12-01 Thread Kevin Gibbs
I don't own Logic. If you could give me more details, I'd appreciate it. Here are a few basic questions: What buttons have you labeled? Can you move around in the arrange window? Can you mute, solo and arm tracks? Can you choose soft synth parameters? Can you insert and move between markers in a p

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Okay, so I let my disgust for the governments' disregard for women spill over onto the list, but having seen far too many women scarred by abuse and saddled with kids they didn't want because of ... well, let's just say I land on the feminist side of this one all the way. But, that having

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Hell, I've had people call the cops on me and my guide dog--it was easier to convince the cop that no, I was not abusing the dog, that yes, the dog loved me and was a working animal, that the person who called them was uninformed... etc. If anyone wants to take a dog away from me, they're

replacement e-mail prorams for the mac?

2009-12-01 Thread trahern culver
h your help with this would be most welcome!!! kind regards trahern.ey guys i would like to chainge my mail client from the mail apps can any one reccomend a deffrent e-mail program? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
The keyboard will become obsolete in the next 10-20 years; this is a prediction I'm making now. It was invented in the 19th century for the manual typewriter. It's going to go the way of the cathode ray tube; it's primitive. Blind people either adapt or they get left behind. I can't affo

skype scripts

2009-12-01 Thread william lomas
hi has anyone managed to create skype scripts to enable us to read who is online offline, away etc wil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.

Re: Mac Useless for low vision users?

2009-12-01 Thread erik burggraaf
HI, what opperating system were you testing this on? If you were makeing your tests 2 or 3 months ago then the work needs to be completely redone because snow leopard 10.6 came out in October with major accessibility improvements.Most of us are voice or braille users. It's hard to troubleshoot

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Yeah, and for that unfortunate half a blind person, finding a kidney before you get the job is just impossible! Not to mention legs and a half torso... :) Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

Re: garageband accessibility

2009-12-01 Thread Esther
Hi Hank, I wasn't sure of what you were asking for, because I thought you were on the vimac-audio list. Any files posted to the Google Groups lists are available at the web site for the list. You know how at the end of each post there is a line: For more options, visit this group at http://g

Re: rdc

2009-12-01 Thread Brent Harding
I don't think you would be able to use the mac from the Windows side. As far as I know, to use Windows from the mac side of the connection, I think you need a screen reader at both sides, whether it be JFW or Window Eyes. - Original Message - From: "anouk radix" To: Sent: Tuesday, Dec

Re: rdc

2009-12-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello, someone who wants to use my mac from the windows side of things (as long as he is not blind) can use teamviewer. If the person were blind then it is another matter. Greetings, Anouk, On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Brent Harding wrote: > I don't think you would be able to use the mac from the

Re: rdc

2009-12-01 Thread Brent Harding
That's what I meant. I was assuming he was blind. I don't think there's any speaking virtual machine you can run in Windows to have Mac as a guest to get this done either, so a connection from Windows to Mac if you are totally blind isn't possible, or easy. - Original Message - From: "

Re: rdc

2009-12-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello, no my friend is sighted. I was just so blown away that something like teamviewer existed and htat he could access my mac machine remotely it got me wondering if this was not also possible from mac to windows (as a blind user), sighted users can access his computer fine from the mac with t

documentation

2009-12-01 Thread John W. Carty
I have the material Voiceover getting started snow leopard. Is there any other online documentation that may offer additional instructions for voiceover and/or more importantly more information about operating the mac operating system? Thanx, John Carty -- You received this message because y

Sound Amplification app [was Re: iphone]

2009-12-01 Thread Esther
Hi, In regard to John's original question about using the iPhone in noisy surroundings, I think that Scott (in another post) has correctly addressed the issue: in noisy circumstances you probably do want to use the headset, and there are separate controls for the headset volume (I think yo

Re: Mac Useless for low vision users?

2009-12-01 Thread Claire
Hi, Thanks James, I went to the Apple Website and found a couple of things that looked interesting. The only thing I really miss is not having a big, large, visual cue for the keyboard insertion point. Best, Claire On Dec 1, 2:31 pm, erik burggraaf wrote: > HI, what opperating system were you tes

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, The difference, as i understand it, and correct me if i'm wrong here, is that in the States, you actually own the dog. In Sweden it's the blindness organization that owns the guide dogs, we just use them, borrow if you so will and so taking a dog away is perfectly ok, if the owner so chooses

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread anouk radix
Hello, This is the way in which it is done in the Netherlands as well, the school owns the dog and loans it to the end user. I have heard of some cases though in the states in chich a dog was taken a way from its owner (i mean a guidedog not a normal dog). Greetings, Anouk, On Dec 1, 2009, at 8:

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Scott Howell
mark, that is a very good question and one if I can find sufficient time, I'd like to dig into. I think it would make sense that a product such as the Mac fit into this category because of the universal access. I think you could argue either way, but likely the argument would still lean more tow

RE: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread John W. Carty
I live in the U.S. and have used a guide dog since 1993. Each school here has a different policy concerning ownership. I have received all three of my guides from www.guidedogs.com out of California. I cannot speak thru experience concerning other schools but gdb has a policy that after one y

Re: skype scripts

2009-12-01 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, You won't need this. Do explore the "Events" section in the preferences toolbar. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:17 PM, william lomas wrote: > hi

Re: skype scripts

2009-12-01 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Um, sorry, I was thinking of Adium. I mean the "Notification" preferences in Skype preferences toolbar. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:17 PM, william lomas wrote: >

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Scott Howell
Amen brother!!! On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Hell, I've had people call the cops on me and my guide dog--it was > easier to convince the cop that no, I was not abusing the dog, that > yes, the dog loved me and was a working animal, that the person who > calle

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread carlene knight
Some of the organizations give you full ownership and some don't. For the ones that do there is usually a fee of about $200. On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > The difference, as i understand it, and correct me if i'm wrong here, is that > in the States, you actually ow

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Well, now, I care very little for who says they own what; there's another thing in the states that goes "Possession is nine tenths of the law." It's whom the *DOG* chooses that matters more to me. Having said that, I will now give the facts for my guide dog school: Guiding Eyes for the Bli

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread carlene knight
One thing that needs to be addressed here is that there are employers who can't afford to provide the necessary items needed for their visually impaired employees to do the job. Whether you think that's just an excuse for them or not, The bottom line is that I didn't have access to computers e

HTML5

2009-12-01 Thread David Hole
Hello guys. I'm just curious... If some of you out there are developing web sites/apps... Does any one of you use HTML5, and if not, have you been thinking of switching to it? Kind regards David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group

Accessing Project Gutenberg

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi list, On Windows, the Webbie application suite has a fantastic app for accessing the Project Gutenberg site. Does anything like this exist for the Mac? I know that there is one called Guten, but as yet, I've not got it to work. How do people find accessing the Gutenberg site, and do they ha

mail says busy a number of times then after a minute, says ready

2009-12-01 Thread Ray Foret jr
Hi, The subject line pretty much says it all. Now, when I open mail. it always or most often says: "Mail busy busy busy busy"... then it says "Mail ready" then goes back to being busy busy ETC. Does apple know about this? Another small point. Isn't there an e-mail address we can write to App

Can't find attachment

2009-12-01 Thread carlene knight
Hi: I can't seem to find an attachment in a message. Usually I can but this one seems to be hidden from VO somehow. I had to ask the gentleman who sent it to me what in the world it said. Is there anything I can do to show this strange and potentially important attachment or any I might get

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread John G. Heim
Several years ago, Microsoft began working on improvements to narrator that would make it a realistically usable screen reader. But the National Federation of the Blind asked them to stop. The reasoning was that if Microsoft improved narrator, it might drive Freedom Scientific and GW Micro out

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Thomas McMahan
Depends on the school in the U. S. Some contracts say in large print one thing such as "end user" owns, but in small print there is some wiggle room for the organization. The organization still however, may have to proceed through legal meens to get the dog back. In other words they have

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread John G. Heim
There is a new organization called the International Association of Visually Impaired Technologists that is planning on addressing some of these issues. I actually am the President of the group. http://www.iavit.org/ - Original Message - From: "Les Kriegler" To: Sent: Tuesday, De

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Richie Gardenhire
yet another problem for blind and visually-impaired workers is, technology is changing so rapidly, by the time you getsaid screenreader, or even hardware, your machine is either outdated or the technology for it becomes obsolete, and companies pull support without notice which, leaves sort

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread carlene knight
That's why I'm able to sit here and write this;My employer changed its software and I've had nothing but problems since. I won't go into details, but for the most part, I've been out of work for months now. I've often commented that if they only had Apple based software, I don't think we would

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi, I'm not looking to upset anyone, but can I ask why do you think that VO and NVDA are not quite up to the standard set by JFW and We? Mac OS X 10.6 set the VO bar extremely high. This release has made VO a fully functional and viable solution for Blind computer users who wish to use a Mac.

Re: Can't find attachment

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi carlene, You wrote: > I can't seem to find an attachment in a message. Usually I can but this one > seems to be hidden from VO somehow. I had to ask the gentleman who sent it > to me what in the world it said. Is there anything I can do to show this > strange and potentially important atta

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Richie Gardenhire
Freedom Scientific is a large company; for NFB to step in and say to Microsoft to stay out of the screenreading business, is in and of itself, telling me they have a stake in what FS or GW Micro does with regard to their marketshares. And while these companies have a place in the market, t

Re: mail says busy a number of times then after a minute, says ready

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi Ray, You wrote: > The subject line pretty much says it all. Now, when I open mail. it always > or most often says: > "Mail busy busy busy busy"... then it says "Mail ready" then goes back to > being busy busy ETC. Does apple know about this? I do not know if they know about this, as I have

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Tyler Littlefield
Dogs are lost because of a lack of responsibility or something similar on the part of the owner. You don't just wake up one day and get a knock at the door from some big dude in a suit who says "OK, I'm taking your dog." On Dec 1, 2009, at 1:33 PM, John W. Carty wrote: > I live in the U.S. and

Re: Economics and the Mac

2009-12-01 Thread Scott Howell
John, I think that is a very unfair statement. To say that VoiceOver is not up to the standard set by JAWS is inaccurate. That is like comparing windows and the Mac OS. Sure, they both are operating systems, but they are very different and that holds true with VoiceOver as compared to JAWS, Wind

Re: Can't find attachment

2009-12-01 Thread carlene knight
Hi James: thanks for the idea. I should have thought of that. Oh well. On Dec 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM, James & Nash wrote: > Hi carlene, > You wrote: >> I can't seem to find an attachment in a message. Usually I can but this one >> seems to be hidden from VO somehow. I had to ask the gentleman wh

Re: Can't find attachment

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi carlene , LOL These things happen. On 1 Dec 2009, at 23:19, carlene knight wrote: > Hi James: > thanks for the idea. I should have thought of that. Oh well. > On Dec 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> Hi carlene, >> You wrote: >>> I can't seem to find an attachment in a message.

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Before moving to the Bay Area of California, I'd agree with you. but the crazy way people act around here, the amount of hassle I get from pig--cops--around here, even *AFTER* I cut my hair back to a crewcut... I don't take anything for granted. Plus, Guiding Eyes and I have had our diffe

Re: mail says busy a number of times then after a minute, says ready

2009-12-01 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, You can get Webkit from http://www.webkit.org Some things do work better, some things do not. The Ebay site is an example. It works better with Webkit. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On D

Re: Accessing Project Gutenberg

2009-12-01 Thread Richie Gardenhire
Greg Kearney is working on writing a program which will give us access to the Gutenberg project site so we can download books from that site. There are probably others working on similar software. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage,Alaska. On Dec 1, 2009, at 1:03 PM, James & Nash wrote: Hi lis

Re: Accessing Project Gutenberg

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi Richie, Good to hear from you. We've not spoken in a long time. Thanks for the heads up on the Project Gutenberg situation. Please get in touch off list if you fancy a chat. TC James On 1 Dec 2009, at 23:29, Richie Gardenhire wrote: > Greg Kearney is working on writing a program which wi

any way to download from Blind Cool Tech

2009-12-01 Thread Ray Foret jr
Hello, Does any one know how to download a podcast from Blind Cool Tech? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Now a Mac user!!! Phone +1 (985) 360-3614 E-mail: rforetjr at comcast.net Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

Re: any way to download from Blind Cool Tech

2009-12-01 Thread James & Nash
Hi Ray, You wrote: > Does any one know how to download a podcast from Blind Cool Tech? Yes, when you've selected the heading/link you want, simply press VO+shift+M and select the option "download link as..." I think that's what it's called. This will then bring up a dialogue where you can save

-- any way to download from Blind Cool Tech

2009-12-01 Thread David McLean
Go to the link and pres option plus enter. A little piece of info I learned on this list myself. On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > Hello, > > Does any one know how to download a podcast from Blind Cool Tech? > Thanks. > > > Sincerely, > > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > > Now

Re: no mac for blind people in Belgium

2009-12-01 Thread Pete Nalda
Not all schools in the US grant full ownership of dogs @ graduation. Some do, but others don't until after a period of time. On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > The difference, as i understand it, and correct me if i'm wrong here, is that > in the States, you actually o