Final Moderator Note -was- Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Cara Quinn
n Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:40:54AM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> Yeppers. That's why. >>>> >>>> On 07/03/2011, at 11:05, "Cheree Heppe" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cheree Heppe here: >>>>> >>>>> I

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Tyler wood
t;>>>> Is that why we don't have universal, affordable, Braille displays? >>>>> Because intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation >>>>> back to benefit current high priced offerings? >>>>> >>>>> &

Re: The politics and manufacture of Braille displays [Was, Re: macbook air vs ipad 2]

2011-03-07 Thread Kevin Mattingly
atch the > wayward contents of the last thousand messages in this thread, seeing how it > has nothing to do with the original topic of "macbook air vs ipad 2.". > > Sigh, LOL, Roll eyes, > Bryan > > On Mar 7, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Lol, >

The politics and manufacture of Braille displays [Was, Re: macbook air vs ipad 2]

2011-03-07 Thread Bryan Jones
t has nothing to do with the original topic of "macbook air vs ipad 2.". Sigh, LOL, Roll eyes, Bryan On Mar 7, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Lol, > > I respectfully disagree. Tax breaks and subsidies? Why? and from whom? > On Mar 7, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Chere

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Cheree
have universal, affordable, Braille displays? Because >>>> intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation back to >>>> benefit current high priced offerings? >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Cheree Heppe >>

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Tyler wood
Because >>> intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation back to >>> benefit current high priced offerings? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cheree Heppe >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Sco

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Granados
Scott I believe the cells are made by hand. In some of the designs the pins are set by hand, in others they use piaso electric materials. On Mar 7, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Ture, but I was using that for illustrative purposes. There is no question > those little buggers cost a

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Howell
Scott, You are perhaps right, but my numbers were really only for illustrative purposes. I did not spend time researching the cost of producing cells nor the cost of paying employees. I don't disagree with the employment aspect, but the devil truly in this case is in the details. :) On Mar 7,

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Howell
Ture, but I was using that for illustrative purposes. There is no question those little buggers cost a chunk for sure. I have no idea how they are produced, but probably takes some special equipment. I wonder if I could find an article on how Braille cells are made, h think I shall Google it

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Howell
Yes sir that is a good point. I got on a role and neglected to add that to the mix. :) On Mar 7, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote: > Scott, To add to your point, consider that our dollar has been devaluated to > the point that, when goods and services are imported to the US, our foreig

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Granados
> Totally backward reasoning. > > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:35 > Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 > > > Actually try maybe a few hundred per cell but

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Cheree Heppe
. cities use for public transport. You know, few ride public transport, so because few ride, let's cut it back even more. Totally backward reasoning. Regards, Cheree Heppe - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:35 Subject: Re: macboo

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Cheree Heppe
. cities use for public transport. You know, few ride public transport, so because few ride, let's cut it back even more. Totally backward reasoning. Regards, Cheree Heppe - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:35 Subject: Re: macboo

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2011-03-07 Thread carolyn Haas
2:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Yeppers. That's why. >>> >>> On 07/03/2011, at 11:05, "Cheree Heppe" wrote: >>> >>>> Cheree Heppe here: >>>> >>>> Is that why we don't have universal, affordable, B

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Granados
t;> >>> Is that why we don't have universal, affordable, Braille displays? Because >>> intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation back to >>> benefit current high priced offerings? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>&

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Granados
gt;> Cheree Heppe here: >>> >>> Is that why we don't have universal, affordable, Braille displays? Because >>> intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation back to >>> benefit current high priced offerings? >>> >>> >

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
o >>> benefit current high priced offerings? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cheree Heppe >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Scott Granados" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Richie Gardenhire
t high priced offerings? Regards, Cheree Heppe - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32 Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 Apple isn't going to car if some nat of a company like fS brings legal action. Apple can simply

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Howell
e universal, affordable, Braille displays? Because >> intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation back to >> benefit current high priced offerings? >> >> >> Regards, >> Cheree Heppe >> >> - Original Message ----

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Jim Barbour
priced offerings? > > > > > > Regards, > > Cheree Heppe > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Granados" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32 > > Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 > > >

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
nefit current high priced offerings? > > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Granados" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32 > Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 > > > Apple isn't going to car if some nat

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Cheree Heppe
uot; To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32 Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 Apple isn't going to car if some nat of a company like fS brings legal action. Apple can simply use stalling tactics and let them run out of money spinning their wheels. On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Jane wrot

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Cheree Heppe
uot; To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32 Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 Apple isn't going to car if some nat of a company like fS brings legal action. Apple can simply use stalling tactics and let them run out of money spinning their wheels. On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Jane wrot

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Scott Granados
y instead of a hard drive. >>>> >>>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained about >>>> the size of the PacMate QT. In fact, I don't think that the PacMate QT >>>> would be as large in flat area as the iPad. >&g

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
William, the Air ships with a USB thumb drive with the OSx on it, so you can do everything you can do with any other Mac that comes with a recovery disc. the Air is indeed twice the cost of the basic WiFi only iPad. but the top of the line iPad is only like £100 / US$200 less than the Air 11in.

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-07 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Neil, I too do the same thing, I have the iTunes library set up on a NAS unit that the iMac and Air both share, now yes, I cannot use them both at the same time owing to the constraints of the XML table for iunes, but since I do not use both machines at the same time, well certainly not for iTu

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-06 Thread William Windels
Hello all, I have also some toughest about this discussion. At the moment, I have a macbook and a iphone4. I was planning to buy a ipad2 when it came out but, after reading this tread, perhaps I am changing my mind. The most important thing I have read here is: pages isn't working well on the ip

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-06 Thread Neil James
Thanks for the suggestion. I had considered doing just that but for now my iTunes library happily resides on an external hd which is connected to my 23 inch iMac. The air is just perfect for my portable computing needs though. Neil On Mar 6, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-06 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
the air is just out, like three / four months ago, they won't revise its design for at least another 8 plus months. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS rela

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-06 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Neil, I have the 11in air with the 128Gb SSD and the upgrade on the processor and RAM, makin it a 1.62Ghz and 4Gb of RAM, and totally agree with you, its lightening fast... more than enough for my portable requirements. in terms of storage, if you find yourself running low, consider not keepin

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-06 Thread Tyler wood
I have the 15 inch core i7 mid 2010 model of macbook pro. I love it. I can't wait to get my paws on the air. This thing is a total workhorse. I've only cranked it up to 100 percent processor a few times, and I unplugged just to see. An hour and 40 minutes, and considering the fact screen was at

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-06 Thread Neil James
n later this year. Probably around > summer's end. > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "Neil James" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:10 PM > Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 > > >> Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-06 Thread Neil James
One other thing I forgot to mention, is that the 13 inch air also has a SD card slot and the 11 inch air does not. Neil On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: > I think that the refresh of the air was done last month, and they don't > really sem to release new products in cycles sho

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-06 Thread Jane
ind folks that have complained about >>> the size of the PacMate QT. In fact, I don't think that the PacMate QT >>> would be as large in flat area as the iPad. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker&qu

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Sarah Alawami
gt; processor than that and so does the Ayer if you want to pay the higher >>>> price for solid state memory instead of a hard drive. >>>> >>>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained about >>>> the size of the PacMate

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Cheree
han that and so does the Ayer if you want to pay the higher >>> price for solid state memory instead of a hard drive. >>> >>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained about >>> the size of the PacMate QT. In fact, I don't thin

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Sarah Alawami
act, I don't think that the PacMate QT >> would be as large in flat area as the iPad. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM >> Subject: Re: macbook air

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Cheree
't think that the PacMate QT would be > as large in flat area as the iPad. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 > > > Me personally, > &g

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread David Tanner
ge in flat area as the iPad. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 Me personally, If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air. Its a full fledged computer, and besides the

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Kaare Dehard
I think that the refresh of the air was done last month, and they don't really sem to release new products in cycles shorter than yearly. If you can afford the waiting, it may be as early as next year before a new one comes out. On 2011-03-05, at 8:41 PM, Denise Avant wrote: > hi, > thanks every

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Isaac Obie
8:10 PM Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you have the means and wouldn't mind a slightly larger machine though, I hardily recomamnd the 13 inch air with the faster cpu and twice the capacity of the ssd. I have the 13 inch air with the 128 gig ssd

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Eric Brinkman
Since Apple just released the latest Air at the end of October, I wouldn't expect a new one anytime soon. Eric On 3/5/11, Denise Avant wrote: > hi, > thanks everyone for the input. i will do the air, though i may wait to see > if apple releases a new one. > > On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Neil Jam

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Denise Avant
hi, thanks everyone for the input. i will do the air, though i may wait to see if apple releases a new one. On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Neil James wrote: > Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you have the means and wouldn't > mind a slightly larger machine though, I hardily recomamnd t

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-05 Thread Neil James
Agreed. The air is a really nice machine. If you have the means and wouldn't mind a slightly larger machine though, I hardily recomamnd the 13 inch air with the faster cpu and twice the capacity of the ssd. I have the 13 inch air with the 128 gig ssd and 4 gb ram and it is screaming fast for wha

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Paul Mimms
It is true that the camera kit for the iPad cannot be used for transfer of data other than photos. As for compactness, the ZaggMate from zagg.com is an aluminum case which combines a BT keyboard while adding only .25 inch to the thickness of the iPad itself, and there are other cases for iPad

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Paul Mimms
Look into an app called USB disk that can work with iPad to export and import files. That is assuming you need to access files for some reason while you are away from home. You might also consider one of the eprint printers that will print from iDevices and other mobile devices wirelessly usi

RE: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Cameron
m] On Behalf Of Cheree Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 Cheree Heppe here: It's a tough decision. If I could do quality word processing on an IPad 2, I would select that over a MacBook Air because it will be more port

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Cheree
Cheree Heppe here: It's a tough decision. If I could do quality word processing on an IPad 2, I would select that over a MacBook Air because it will be more portable and a lot of the interface iss, for me, easier. It is possible to obtain a typist friendly Bluetooth keyboard that won't take u

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Eric Brinkman
Another vote for the Air. When the iPad came out, I thought i would use it with the bluetooth keyboard a lot, but as it turns out, I do not. Carrying both the iPad and the keyboard around is pretty clunky, and the Macbook Air is not significantly larger than the iPad when it's closed. Eric On 3

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Mike Arrigo
Since you have an iphone, I would go with the macbook air. If you plan on typing a lot, you would have to use the on screen keyboard of the ipad or get a bluetooth keyboard or the dock. Again, I would go with the macbook air I think. On Mar 4, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote: > hello all, >

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
Me personally, If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air. Its a full fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find yourself bumping up against less barriers when trying to get things done. Especially if you have an iPhone or iPod touch already. What are you real

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Since people have reported serious issues with Pages on the IPad, it would seem that if one wants to do serious word processing, the Air wins, at least for now. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries"

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Kaare Dehard
air has also got my vote. unless there is something that is both ipad and ios specific you are hoping to accomplish... On 2011-03-04, at 12:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > The IPad is wonderful but honestly, the Air is probably a better fit if you > have the IPhone already. > > Typing is easier

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Scott Granados
The IPad is wonderful but honestly, the Air is probably a better fit if you have the IPhone already. Typing is easier for most with a real keyboard and you get the whole OSx environment. The Air should also be more powerful. Either device will be good but I'd vote air. On Mar 4, 2011, at

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Donna Goodin
I think I read somewhere that there's some kind of work around, but I could very well be wrong. Donna On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Donna, > The original IPad does not have a usb port. You can get that camera kit as an > extra, but my understanding was that you can't use exter

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Donna, The original IPad does not have a usb port. You can get that camera kit as an extra, but my understanding was that you can't use external media evenfor file transfer or extra storage, with the usb port provided by that accessory. If that's wrong, I'm sure somebody will correct me. Mary

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Kimberly thurman
I have an iPhone, iPod Touch, IPad (which my husbanf uses most of the time), and a Macbook Pro. Were it me, I would get the Macbook Air, but I like the keyboard. The small Macbook Air is so thin and light. It's not that much bigger than the iPad. Just my opinion. :) On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:4

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
I have, use, love and adore my Mac Book Air 11in, I know many iPad users who now have both the iPad and the 11in Air, and they say that quite often they will opt to use the Air, simply as it has a physical keyboard. these are both sighted and low vision users. personally, I have both too, and g

Re: macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Denise, The original iPad does have a USB drive. The iPad 2 does not. I would suggest that you think about how exactly you want to use this device. For games? For media? For writing? Would having a physical keyboard be desirable or not? You can think of the MacBook Air as a scaled down

macbook air vs ipad 2

2011-03-04 Thread Denise Avant
hello all, i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that is light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because you can get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there is no port for external media like a usb drive, is there? my other alternati