Look guys, its all preference. If you like to have I Devices and say you have a darlin person that is sited to share with, get the IPad. If you have like real need for keyboard access, memory and flash, then get yourself a computer, laptop or Air. Its real easy.
Apple is fun for me and I use it that way. I need windows for work because of the office products. I want an IPad for my wife and I. I want a macbook air or pro because I can share it with my wife and I don't have to worry about all the windows clutter. My advice is to enjoy the chance to have options. Cheers and good luck to all, Kev On Mar 7, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > I have nothing to say about this topic. However, since some people are > apparently not willing or able to listen to two Mod requests to end the > discussion, I've changed the subject line to at least make it match the > wayward contents of the last thousand messages in this thread, seeing how it > has nothing to do with the original topic of "macbook air vs ipad 2.". > > Sigh, LOL, Roll eyes, > Bryan > > On Mar 7, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Lol, >> >> I respectfully disagree. Tax breaks and subsidies? Why? and from whom? >> On Mar 7, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote: >> >>> Cheree Heppe here: >>> >>> Small numbers notwithstanding, if a company needed a good taxx break and a >>> subsidy, they could produce the display and gain a lot of good from various >>> quarters. >>> >>> The argument for Braille as a reading mode for a select few has the same >>> ring as that argument lots of U.S. cities use for public transport. >>> >>> You know, few ride public transport, so because few ride, let's cut it back >>> even more. >>> >>> Totally backward reasoning. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cheree Heppe >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sarah Alawami" <marri...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:35 >>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 >>> >>> >>> Actually try maybe a few hundred per cell but you do make a good oint. If >>> only we had all blind and vi people reading braille then we would have a >>> higher demand for braille desplays lol! >>> On Mar 7, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> In reading this thread, I feel compelled to present a different argument >>>> to the high cost of Braille displays and thus will play devil's advocate >>>> here. It is possible that the high cost of Braille displays may be related >>>> to the fact that: >>>> 1. There is a small market, which means the cost will be naturally higher >>>> in order to offset the fact that fewer units would be purchased. >>>> 2. The cost of the components are produced at a much lower rate than the >>>> parts for other technology. FOr example, the cost of a display to be used >>>> in a monitor may be produced by the millions where the cells of a Braille >>>> display may be produced by the tens of thousands. This would mean that >>>> perhaps a lcd screen might cost $20 and the cells for a Braille display >>>> may be $20 per cell. >>>> 3. The cost of research and development is more do to the uniqueness of >>>> the product and specialized skill set. >>>> 4. Less competition in the market. COnsider that although several vendors >>>> sell Braille displays, only a few manufacturers actually produce them. In >>>> fact Baum makes displays they sell with their own name, but they also >>>> produce displays for APH, Human Ware, and perhaps others. >>>> >>>> There has been examples of how developers of adaptive technologies have >>>> produced products for less than hundreds and sold them for thousands. >>>> However, my argument stated above would justify this to some extent. >>>> COnsider that any company produces a product for X dollars and sells it >>>> for Y dollars. The X cost has to take into consideration research and >>>> development, marketing, distribution, and other overhead. Does this >>>> justify the cost of what most Braille displays? I could not answer that >>>> question because I have no idea what it really costs to produce such a >>>> device. I suppose you could make the argument that the research and >>>> development has probably been paid for several times over, but consider >>>> that innovation of new features and technology has not stopped either. I >>>> imagine if Braille displays were sold by the hundreds of thousands or >>>> millions the cost would be considerably less. So, I have not seen any >>>> evidence presented that supports the argument that "intrenched" providers >>>> artificially inflate prices to control the market at the expense of >>>> consumers. If there is some evidence to support this then great, but >>>> consider what you are saying would mean there is a conspiracy among the >>>> manufacturers and vendors. Does make for a fascinating discussion. >>>> >>>> On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeppers. That's why. >>>>> >>>>> On 07/03/2011, at 11:05, "Cheree Heppe" <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Cheree Heppe here: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that why we don't have universal, affordable, Braille displays? >>>>>> Because intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation >>>>>> back to benefit current high priced offerings? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Cheree Heppe >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32 >>>>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple isn't going to car if some nat of a company like fS brings legal >>>>>> action. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple can simply use stalling tactics and let them run out of money >>>>>> spinning their wheels. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Jane wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We're assuming they will do Braille. That'd be neat, *if* they can pull >>>>>>> it off and *if* Braille display makers don't push them out of the >>>>>>> market by constantly suing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jane >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah don't forget it's thinner. When haptics comes out think of the >>>>>>>> screen room you wil have for braille right there. >>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Cheree wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe here: >>>>>>>>> I like the IPad, actually. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I went for the I-devicees first because they open a very intuitive, >>>>>>>>> easy entre into the Apple environment. No commands and keystroke >>>>>>>>> chording and what seemed to me a quick start interface. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In a bit, I'm ggoing to get an Air or Mac, but would have done so >>>>>>>>> with much more trepidation if not having tried the I-devices first. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As to the base measurements of a PacMate being smaller than an IPad, >>>>>>>>> true, but that's only a single dimension. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 05/03/2011, at 19:07, "David Tanner" <david.tanner...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone >>>>>>>>>> or iTouch. The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic >>>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in >>>>>>>>>> the new iPad is only a 1.0 gigahert duel core processor. The >>>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 has a lot faster processor than that and so does the >>>>>>>>>> Ayer if you want to pay the higher price for solid state memory >>>>>>>>>> instead of a hard drive. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained >>>>>>>>>> about the size of the PacMate QT. In fact, I don't think that the >>>>>>>>>> PacMate QT would be as large in flat area as the iPad. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" >>>>>>>>>> <rwalker...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Me personally, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air. Its a >>>>>>>>>> full fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find >>>>>>>>>> yourself bumping up against less barriers when trying to get things >>>>>>>>>> done. Especially if you have an iPhone or iPod touch already. What >>>>>>>>>> are you really missing in not getting an iPad? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> JMO >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hello all, >>>>>>>>>>> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something >>>>>>>>>>> that is light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 >>>>>>>>>>> because you can get pages to write with. the only problem here is >>>>>>>>>>> that there is no port for external media like a usb drive, is there? >>>>>>>>>>> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a >>>>>>>>>>> little bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a >>>>>>>>>>> port for external media. of course i would miss all of those apps >>>>>>>>>>> you can have on the ipad. >>>>>>>>>>> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone. >>>>>>>>>>> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i >>>>>>>>>>> know the ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first >>>>>>>>>>> generation ipad users here. >>>>>>>>>>> thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> 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