Cheree heppe here:
I have a working Millennium 20 and really like it.  I don't care that it is a 
legacy device.

Regards,
Cheree heppe


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On 07/03/2011, at 17:12, Tyler wood <tcwoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No, but FS sure isn't helping the price go down any.
> 
> It couldn't anyway, not yet anyway. The cells that produce the braille are 
> super expensive.
> 
> I can't believe FS is still selling the pac mate, actually. I miss the days 
> of the braille lites.
> 
> Tyler
> On 2011-03-07, at 1:48 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
> 
>> Oh come on!  Are you really saying that if only Freedom Scientific
>> hadn't come up with the signed Braille driver that we'd have
>> universal, inexpensive Braille displays?
>> 
>> I would say that Braille displays are expensive to produce and
>> maintain, which is one big reason we don't have more affordable
>> braille displays.
>> 
>> I would also say there's been little demand for universal Braille
>> displays, assuming universal means that it works with the HID
>> protocal.
>> 
>> JIm
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:40:54AM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> Yeppers. That's why. 
>>> 
>>> On 07/03/2011, at 11:05, "Cheree Heppe" <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>>> 
>>>> Is that why we don't have universal, affordable, Braille displays? Because 
>>>> intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation back to 
>>>> benefit current high priced offerings?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32
>>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Apple isn't going to car if some nat of a company like fS brings legal 
>>>> action.
>>>> 
>>>> Apple can simply use stalling tactics and let them run out of money 
>>>> spinning their wheels.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Jane wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We're assuming they will do Braille. That'd be neat, *if* they can pull 
>>>>> it off and *if* Braille display makers don't push them out of the market 
>>>>> by constantly suing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jane
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah don't forget it's thinner. When haptics comes out think of the 
>>>>>> screen room you wil have for braille right there.
>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Cheree wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>>>>>> I like the IPad, actually.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I went for the I-devicees first because they open a very intuitive, 
>>>>>>> easy entre into the Apple environment.  No commands and keystroke 
>>>>>>> chording and what seemed to me a quick start interface.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a bit, I'm ggoing to get an Air or Mac, but would have done so with 
>>>>>>> much more trepidation if not having tried the I-devices first.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As to the base measurements of a PacMate being smaller than an IPad, 
>>>>>>> true, but that's only a single dimension.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 05/03/2011, at 19:07, "David Tanner" <david.tanner...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone 
>>>>>>>> or iTouch.  The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic 
>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in the 
>>>>>>>> new iPad is only a 1.0 gigahert duel core processor.  The MacBook Pro 
>>>>>>>> 13 has a lot faster processor than that and so does the Ayer if you 
>>>>>>>> want to pay the higher price for solid state memory instead of a hard 
>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained 
>>>>>>>> about the size of the PacMate QT.  In fact, I don't think that the 
>>>>>>>> PacMate QT would be as large in flat area as the iPad.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" 
>>>>>>>> <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Me personally,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air.  Its a full 
>>>>>>>> fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find yourself 
>>>>>>>> bumping up against less barriers when trying to get things done.  
>>>>>>>> Especially if you have an iPhone or iPod touch already.  What are you 
>>>>>>>> really missing in not getting an iPad?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> JMO
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>>>>> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something 
>>>>>>>>> that is light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 
>>>>>>>>> because you can get pages to write with. the only problem here is 
>>>>>>>>> that there is no port for external media like a usb drive, is there?
>>>>>>>>> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a 
>>>>>>>>> little bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port 
>>>>>>>>> for external media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can 
>>>>>>>>> have on the ipad.
>>>>>>>>> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
>>>>>>>>> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i 
>>>>>>>>> know the ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first 
>>>>>>>>> generation ipad users here.
>>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>>> 
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