No, but FS sure isn't helping the price go down any.

It couldn't anyway, not yet anyway. The cells that produce the braille are 
super expensive.

I can't believe FS is still selling the pac mate, actually. I miss the days of 
the braille lites.

Tyler
On 2011-03-07, at 1:48 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:

> Oh come on!  Are you really saying that if only Freedom Scientific
> hadn't come up with the signed Braille driver that we'd have
> universal, inexpensive Braille displays?
> 
> I would say that Braille displays are expensive to produce and
> maintain, which is one big reason we don't have more affordable
> braille displays.
> 
> I would also say there's been little demand for universal Braille
> displays, assuming universal means that it works with the HID
> protocal.
> 
> JIm
> 
> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:40:54AM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> Yeppers. That's why. 
>> 
>> On 07/03/2011, at 11:05, "Cheree Heppe" <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> 
>>> Is that why we don't have universal, affordable, Braille displays? Because 
>>> intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation back to 
>>> benefit current high priced offerings?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Cheree Heppe
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32
>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apple isn't going to car if some nat of a company like fS brings legal 
>>> action.
>>> 
>>> Apple can simply use stalling tactics and let them run out of money 
>>> spinning their wheels.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Jane wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We're assuming they will do Braille. That'd be neat, *if* they can pull it 
>>>> off and *if* Braille display makers don't push them out of the market by 
>>>> constantly suing.
>>>> 
>>>> Jane
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah don't forget it's thinner. When haptics comes out think of the 
>>>>> screen room you wil have for braille right there.
>>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Cheree wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>>>>> I like the IPad, actually.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I went for the I-devicees first because they open a very intuitive, easy 
>>>>>> entre into the Apple environment.  No commands and keystroke chording 
>>>>>> and what seemed to me a quick start interface.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In a bit, I'm ggoing to get an Air or Mac, but would have done so with 
>>>>>> much more trepidation if not having tried the I-devices first.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As to the base measurements of a PacMate being smaller than an IPad, 
>>>>>> true, but that's only a single dimension.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 05/03/2011, at 19:07, "David Tanner" <david.tanner...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone or 
>>>>>>> iTouch.  The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic MacBook 
>>>>>>> Pro 13 with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in the new iPad 
>>>>>>> is only a 1.0 gigahert duel core processor.  The MacBook Pro 13 has a 
>>>>>>> lot faster processor than that and so does the Ayer if you want to pay 
>>>>>>> the higher price for solid state memory instead of a hard drive.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained 
>>>>>>> about the size of the PacMate QT.  In fact, I don't think that the 
>>>>>>> PacMate QT would be as large in flat area as the iPad.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" 
>>>>>>> <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Me personally,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air.  Its a full 
>>>>>>> fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find yourself 
>>>>>>> bumping up against less barriers when trying to get things done.  
>>>>>>> Especially if you have an iPhone or iPod touch already.  What are you 
>>>>>>> really missing in not getting an iPad?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JMO
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>>>> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something that 
>>>>>>>> is light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 because 
>>>>>>>> you can get pages to write with. the only problem here is that there 
>>>>>>>> is no port for external media like a usb drive, is there?
>>>>>>>> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a 
>>>>>>>> little bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port 
>>>>>>>> for external media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can 
>>>>>>>> have on the ipad.
>>>>>>>> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
>>>>>>>> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i know 
>>>>>>>> the ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first 
>>>>>>>> generation ipad users here.
>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
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