I have a braille lite 2000, and 40. I love them both and they actually still 
work. I still read books with them.

On 2011-03-07, at 7:50 PM, Cheree wrote:

> Cheree heppe here:
> I have a working Millennium 20 and really like it.  I don't care that it is a 
> legacy device.
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree heppe
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 07/03/2011, at 17:12, Tyler wood <tcwoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> No, but FS sure isn't helping the price go down any.
>> 
>> It couldn't anyway, not yet anyway. The cells that produce the braille are 
>> super expensive.
>> 
>> I can't believe FS is still selling the pac mate, actually. I miss the days 
>> of the braille lites.
>> 
>> Tyler
>> On 2011-03-07, at 1:48 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh come on!  Are you really saying that if only Freedom Scientific
>>> hadn't come up with the signed Braille driver that we'd have
>>> universal, inexpensive Braille displays?
>>> 
>>> I would say that Braille displays are expensive to produce and
>>> maintain, which is one big reason we don't have more affordable
>>> braille displays.
>>> 
>>> I would also say there's been little demand for universal Braille
>>> displays, assuming universal means that it works with the HID
>>> protocal.
>>> 
>>> JIm
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:40:54AM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> Yeppers. That's why. 
>>>> 
>>>> On 07/03/2011, at 11:05, "Cheree Heppe" <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is that why we don't have universal, affordable, Braille displays? 
>>>>> Because intrenched providers are holding new development and innivation 
>>>>> back to benefit current high priced offerings?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:32
>>>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple isn't going to car if some nat of a company like fS brings legal 
>>>>> action.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple can simply use stalling tactics and let them run out of money 
>>>>> spinning their wheels.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Jane wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> We're assuming they will do Braille. That'd be neat, *if* they can pull 
>>>>>> it off and *if* Braille display makers don't push them out of the market 
>>>>>> by constantly suing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah don't forget it's thinner. When haptics comes out think of the 
>>>>>>> screen room you wil have for braille right there.
>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Cheree wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>>>>>>> I like the IPad, actually.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I went for the I-devicees first because they open a very intuitive, 
>>>>>>>> easy entre into the Apple environment.  No commands and keystroke 
>>>>>>>> chording and what seemed to me a quick start interface.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In a bit, I'm ggoing to get an Air or Mac, but would have done so with 
>>>>>>>> much more trepidation if not having tried the I-devices first.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As to the base measurements of a PacMate being smaller than an IPad, 
>>>>>>>> true, but that's only a single dimension.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 05/03/2011, at 19:07, "David Tanner" <david.tanner...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, let's see, the iPad is clunkier to carry around than an iPhone 
>>>>>>>>> or iTouch.  The iPad is almost as expensive as buying the basic 
>>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 with two gigabytes of memory, and the processor in the 
>>>>>>>>> new iPad is only a 1.0 gigahert duel core processor.  The MacBook Pro 
>>>>>>>>> 13 has a lot faster processor than that and so does the Ayer if you 
>>>>>>>>> want to pay the higher price for solid state memory instead of a hard 
>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The iPad makes me think of all the blind folks that have complained 
>>>>>>>>> about the size of the PacMate QT.  In fact, I don't think that the 
>>>>>>>>> PacMate QT would be as large in flat area as the iPad.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" 
>>>>>>>>> <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: macbook air vs ipad 2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Me personally,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If I need to get work done, I would go with a Macbook air.  Its a 
>>>>>>>>> full fledged computer, and besides the added size, you will find 
>>>>>>>>> yourself bumping up against less barriers when trying to get things 
>>>>>>>>> done.  Especially if you have an iPhone or iPod touch already.  What 
>>>>>>>>> are you really missing in not getting an iPad?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> JMO
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>>>>>> i am contemplating getting another apple device. i need something 
>>>>>>>>>> that is light to take when i travel. i was thinking of the ipad 2 
>>>>>>>>>> because you can get pages to write with. the only problem here is 
>>>>>>>>>> that there is no port for external media like a usb drive, is there?
>>>>>>>>>> my other alternative is that i can get the macbook air. but its a 
>>>>>>>>>> little bigger. i really don't need a screen. but i would have a port 
>>>>>>>>>> for external media. of course i would miss all of those apps you can 
>>>>>>>>>> have on the ipad.
>>>>>>>>>> that can be negated by the fact that i have an iphone.
>>>>>>>>>> well, i would be interested in hearing from those with the air. i 
>>>>>>>>>> know the ipad 2 is not out yet, but i'm sure there are some first 
>>>>>>>>>> generation ipad users here.
>>>>>>>>>> thanks.
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