hased out iTunes for Windows and iTunes for mac I believe.> > > -Original Message-> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 3:08 PM> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject:
Thanks.
I’ll try uninstalling the Microsoft version then.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
You should be able to use the regular iTunes
rosoft's app store,
> and I do not know of a way to backup my iPhone through Windows.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
&
aries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
iTunes still exists on Window’s and it is in smaller components on the Mac.
> On May 6, 2021, at 14:13, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> General maintenance of any machine is always a good idea.
> I also back up data to
ay 6, 2021 3:08 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>
> brad,
> Granted I have still yet to find an inclusive way for me to use Apple
> products, but speaking personally, one thing I have kept as a practice over
> the 30 years of
whatever you say brad, given you know nothing about my machines, I
respectfully suggest that you stick to your own firsthand awareness, your
own machines.
If it gives you emotionally comfort to feel you know more than an owner,
fine, but that need in and of itself speaks volumes.
On Thu, 6
Of course I understand all the (perceived?) wisdom of starting from scratch, I
just don't accept that it shouldn't be possible to migrate, now that bootable
clones are essentially off the table. Whatever you may have thought of them as
a means of moving from one machine to another, they were a
t; Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 5:18 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>
> Oh, thank you, but it wasn't your responsibility to google it. :) I found the
> same thing, though like
Well, you are not expected to with Apple products.
Windows is another matter.
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 5:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
Oh, thank you, but it wasn't your
'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 4:50 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just t
day, May 6, 2021 4:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
Hi all,
Just to bring some closure to this thread. After getting the error message No
user available for authorization while trying to re-install Big Sur, I made
another call to Apple Te
acvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:38 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacB
Brad, enough!
This is your only warning.
Either stop your confrontational tone in this thread or your posts will be
suspended.
Thanks,
Cara
> On May 6, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>
> Whatever you say Karen.
> Whether you know it or not, your computer is full of accumulated stuf
Whatever you say Karen.
Whether you know it or not, your computer is full of accumulated stuff, that I
call clutter and garbage. If you are happy migrating this “stuff” to a new
machine, then Do whatever works “best" for you.
- Brad -
On May 6, 2021, at 14:07, Karen Lewellen wrote:
brad,
Gr
Hi Brad and All,
I’d like to suggest that we all be aware of our tones a bit in these types of
conversations.
First off, when someone posts here with an issue that clearly is problematic
for them or is not a situation that they want to be engaged in, telling them
that they brought it on themse
-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 3:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
brad,
Granted I have still yet to find an inclusive way for me to use Apple products,
but speaking personally
brad,
Granted I have still yet to find an inclusive way for me to use Apple
products, but speaking personally, one thing I have kept as a practice
over the 30 years of using computers, is not accumulating the nonexistent
garbage you reference.
So, perhaps your choice of phrase from this thread
Exactly.
- Brad -
On May 6, 2021, at 11:54, Herbie Allen wrote:
Backing up your files in cloud storage should be good enough to start all over
again with a new computer. You can export VO preferences, and import them to a
new machine but when backing up An entire machine and transporting i
When restoring from a Time machine backup, you not only restore files, folders
and other data you would like to keep, but you end up restoring all kinds of
trash and clutter that has accumulated over time on the old system.
This is why I prefer not using a Time Machine backup on a new Mac, using
Backing up your files in cloud storage should be good enough to start all over
again with a new computer. You can export VO preferences, and import them to a
new machine but when backing up An entire machine and transporting it to
another, especially if they are two different systems does run
Brad,
The problem with starting from scratch is that in theory it goes against
the basic nature of having a mac.
You can, as illustrated by others, carry forward your history, files,
folders, and other content to your new machine, its part of why time machine
is so valuable.
therefore startin
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:38 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 M
Hi Sabahattin,
I’m so sorry to hear that you are having a similar experience. It is
incredibly frustrating, and frankly, I expect better from an Apple product.
I’m going to try Jonathan’s suggestion to reset VO, and see if that solves my
issue. I’ll also wipe the drive before I send it bac
Commiserations to you, Donna. I was wondering what had become of your migration
problem. I am having the same problem, and I reject utterly the idea that it
should not work—it is, after all, a supported method for migration! I shall be
working on an alternative strategy to clone my data volume f
ries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:38 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>>
>> That’s your choice
Donna,
Yes, I read Kliph’s comments, and I know he has done a number of new M1 setups
using Time Machine backups.
I still feel starting from scratch is the best approach, but I agree there is
something going on with this machine that should not be happening.
Since you are within your 14 day retur
Lol. Thanks! Your support is greatly appreciated. And I always have good
chocolate on hand, and I'll be happy to indulge.
Thanks for your support. I don't consider myself to be among the faint of
heart, but this has been over the top.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 5, 2021, at 8:58 PM, Karen Lewellen
en I set up a new Windows machine recently, I noticed that settings are
> synced across devices.
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
> Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:38 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: experienc
Donna,
You have nothing to defend here, if Apple feels the time machine backup
was not at fault, they should know.
Put the thing in a box if not there already, and have some liberating
chocolate for all your energy and devotion to the problem.
You did more than what would be expected to fix the
gt;
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:46 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>
> Brad,
>
> Maybe. But note Kliph's post that he has installed two machines from time
> machin
Hi Pete,
I did think about trying to install the VU. But its installation is so fiddly,
that I decided I might just be inviting more complications into the equation.
The other thing that influenced my decision is the fact that I cannot check the
Voiceover option in Accessibility shortcuts. Tha
isionaries
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
Brad,
Maybe. But note Kliph's post that he has installed two machines from time
machine backups. Also note my earlier comment that the Apple tech guy did
Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
That’s your choice.
I think you brought your troubles on yourself by doing that Time Machine backup.
Always better to start fresh with a new machine.
- Brad -
On May 5
Brad,
Maybe. But note Kliph's post that he has installed two machines from time
machine backups. Also note my earlier comment that the Apple tech guy did not
believe my troubles are the result of the time machine backup. Personally, I
don't know. I'm not convinced that you are right, but I a
That’s your choice.
I think you brought your troubles on yourself by doing that Time Machine backup.
Always better to start fresh with a new machine.
- Brad -
On May 5, 2021, at 15:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
wrote:
Sorry, Brad, but after this, I'm done! I've worked way too hard
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
>> Behalf Of alia robinson
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>>
>> can you not try to get speech on with your b
com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
Hi all,
Thanks everyone for your helpful suggestions. But I think there’s a point that
has been lost, perhaps in all the messages involved in this thread. There’s
something really messed up on this computer. When I open accessibility
preferences, a
binson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>
> can you not try to get speech on with your braille display? I know I had to
> do that once, did a read all then used the display to turn up my VO v
, they would have done it, but they were
>>>> going to charge me. I'll be ***ed, if I am going to spend money fixing a
>>>> computer that I just unboxed yesterday.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 5,
'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
Yes, if I could get the computer to speak. But so far, neither I nor several
others have been able to make that happen. There should
: experience with N1 MacBook Air
can you not try to get speech on with your braille display? I know I had to do
that once, did a read all then used the display to turn up my VO volume, maybe
speech volume got muted or turned down.
> On May 5, 2021, at 6:42 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionar
LOL, I should have read farther. I just said the same thing.
> On May 5, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Pete De Vasto wrote:
>
> Donna,
>
> I so totally understand and feel terrible about all the frustrations you’ve
> been going through with this setup. I know, through talking with you on
> another list,
can you not try to get speech on with your braille display? I know I had to do
that once, did a read all then used the display to turn up my VO volume, maybe
speech volume got muted or turned down.
> On May 5, 2021, at 6:42 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Update finished, s
wipe the Mac in recovery mode and get speech separate from the OS?
>>>>
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
>>>> S
Donna,
I so totally understand and feel terrible about all the frustrations you’ve
been going through with this setup. I know, through talking with you on another
list, that you do have access to Braille as well. Have you, by any chance,
attempted to hook up a Braille Display to see if VO commu
Ugh! My belated sympathies. I've been buying computers since 1990, and this is
the worst experience I've ever had. Glad you got your situation sorted out.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 5, 2021, at 4:48 PM, Michael Marshall
> wrote:
>
> ahh,
> Another extremely painful Time Machine migration.
> I ha
pper8...@gmail.com>> >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How can you wipe a Mac if you have no speech?
>>>> Command f5 should start VoiceOver.
>>>> Can you wipe the Mac in recovery mode and get speech separate fr
ahh,
Another extremely painful Time Machine migration.
I had this exact same problem when I picked up my 2019 MacBook Pro.
Sometimes there are settings from the old system that don't play nice with a
brand-new Mac.
It's one of the reasons I use carbon copy cloner but still, this should not
happen
e and get speech separate from the OS?
>>>
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:31 P
ote:
>>>
>>> Okay,
>>> I wonder why the staff at Apple couldn't just do a clean install of Big Sir
>>> for you.
>>> Hope all goes well with the update.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via M
glegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:31 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>>
>> I know several VoiceOver users who have new MacBook Airs
use that instead of Time
>>> Machine?
>>> Maybe something in the previous backup isn't compatible between the two
>>> computers?
>>> I'm new to the Mac, but I remember a time when there were compatibility
>>> issues between JAWS and older ve
t;>
>> Okay,
>> I wonder why the staff at Apple couldn't just do a clean install of Big Sir
>> for you.
>> Hope all goes well with the update.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> Sent: Wed
That is what I thought though I hope I never had to go through that.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
Yes. Once in Recovery mode, use CMD
oiceOver.
> Can you wipe the Mac in recovery mode and get speech separate from the OS?
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
> Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:31 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBoo
ues between JAWS and older versions of Windows.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:08 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>&g
eech separate from the OS?
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:31 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisio
Sorry, Brad, but after this, I'm done! I've worked way too hard to make
this computer work.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 5, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>
> I know several VoiceOver users who have new MacBook Airs with the M1
> processor, and none of them have experienced the issues you
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
I know sever
@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
I know several VoiceOver users who have new MacBook Airs with the M1 processor,
and none of them have experienced the issues you report.
I think your issue stems from doing the Time Machine backup from your old Mac
to the new M1 Mac.
I don’t
I know several VoiceOver users who have new MacBook Airs with the M1 processor,
and none of them have experienced the issues you report.
I think your issue stems from doing the Time Machine backup from your old Mac
to the new M1 Mac.
I don’t necessarily think the macOS update will make any differ
Hi!
Hmm, sounds interesting.
Not fun though.
Well I will take that for consideration when the time comes to get a new Mac.
The thing is that they smoothly will face out all intel Macs so I was thinking
that the sooner the better.
/A
> 5 maj 2021 kl. 20:59 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
t; Did you purchase Apple Care?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:20 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>
> Because my computer wouldn&#x
Well,
I thought that all macs came with a warranty and you shouldn't be charged.
Did you purchase Apple Care?
-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with
naries
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:16 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>
> Yes, if I could get the computer to speak. But so far, neither I nor several
> others have been able to make that happen. There should not be
ew to the Mac, but I remember a time when there were compatibility
> issues between JAWS and older versions of Windows.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:08 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.c
a time when there were compatibility
> issues between JAWS and older versions of Windows.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:08 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: experience w
n JAWS and older versions of Windows.
-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
Not quite sure what you're asking. A lot of my documents a
PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Can you get your data from the cloud?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:59 PM
> To: via MacVisionaries
> Subject: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>
Hi,
Can you get your data from the cloud?
-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:59 PM
To: via MacVisionaries
Subject: experience with N1 MacBook Air
Hi all,
Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I
Hi all,
Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I thought I would
share my experience.
I unboxed my MBA yesterday afternoon, and it's been nothin but a headache
since. When I booted it for the first time, all seemed fine. But after I
migrated my data using a time machine b
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