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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 1:58 AM
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Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
Wait,
The function keys show up when you hold down the FN key? So, does this mean,
si
ax ram, SSD and I7
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 7:43 AM
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, and the max ram, SSD and I7
>> processor.
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oard rather than the new one, and the max ram, SSD and I7 processor.
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 7:43 AM
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new one, and the max ram, SSD and I7 processor.
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ehalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
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> Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
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> iOS on a macbook instead of OSX anyone? LOL! Just k
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From: "Simon Fogarty"
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:24 AM
Subject: RE: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
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From: "Terje Strømberg"
To: "Mac Group"
Cc: "Terje Strømberg"
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
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On Behalf Of Douglas Lawlor
Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 11:36 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
Quick question:
With the lack of function keys on the new
x ram, SSD and I7 processor.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 7:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
Sorry slipped fingers. Key quote from the iMore review:
"There's also accessibility built in. Touch Bar supports VoiceOver, so
it'll say the tools out loud for those with low or no vision. And it
can also offer easy access to Switch Control."
That's encouraging as it was the first concrete confir
Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 5:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
iOS on a macbook instead of OSX anyone? LOL! Just kidding. I couldn't resist.
Hey, you said they were moving more to an iOS feel, so...
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>From the hands-on review of the TouchBar enabled MBPs on iMore (1):
1. http://www.imore.com/hello-again-hands-new-macbooks-pro
On 10/28/16, Scott Granados wrote:
> Why not just use the bluetooth pairing on the watch to the headset of your
> choice along with the phone.
>
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at
Why not just use the bluetooth pairing on the watch to the headset of your
choice along with the phone.
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:03 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:
>
> Yeah, and i was asking if it was possible to route watch voice over to iPhone
> SE. So i potentially could listen to apple watch vo
Yeah, and i was asking if it was possible to route watch voice over to iPhone
SE. So i potentially could listen to apple watch voice over via iPhone SE …..
and of course via the 3.5mm headphone jack.
Take care
> 26. okt. 2016 kl. 23.25 skrev Scott Granados :
>
> John a big +1.
>
> And now tha
Me, thirdly.
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From: "Thuy Mallalieu"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcomin
yeah. i was wondering about that too.
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> On 27 Oct 2016, at 23:35, Douglas Lawlor wrote:
>
> Quick question:
> With the lack of function keys on the new MacBook Pro how does one go about
> turning VoiceOver on and off. The current VO guide still says to use
> Command+F5.
Quick question:
With the lack of function keys on the new MacBook Pro how does one go about
turning VoiceOver on and off. The current VO guide still says to use
Command+F5.
Doug
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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> Looks like we’ll have lots of keys to
Looks like we’ll have lots of keys to map now with the light bar. I’m
intrigued by the idea but need to try one out myself to see what it’s like.
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:12 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Sure, if osx suffices for your use cases, this is probably correct.
From: Simon Fogarty
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:31 AM
Subject: RE: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
It’s going to be interesting,
Apple have been moving things towards a combination of mac computer and IOS
touch system for a
Sure, if osx suffices for your use cases, this is probably correct.
But, if you want to host virtual machines, e.g. via VMware, here's yet
another key to map, and yet another way to make using those virtual
machines problematic, i.e. harder to reliably stay in the vm vs
accessing the chrome of the
Can one escape from voiceover scrollvmode (bo shift s) without the escape? On
the other hand, imagine if vo took advantage of a smart strip. Dedicated area
for moving to toolbar perhaps? An entire new commander for us to control?
Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Jessi
I use it for that very thing as well. what function are they planning to put
in place of it?
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 8:09 AM, - wrote:
>
>
>
> I use theeescape key to leave menus and some mac popup items.
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>
>> Honestly, who uses an escape key a
I use thee escape key to leave menus and some mac popup items.
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016, Kliphton Miller wrote:
Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway. I was just sitting here thinking, and
I couldn't think of 1 thing I actually use the escape key for. Windows yes,
but not on OSX. JMO
M
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
Don’t worry Simon, we all think the wor
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
Don’t worry Simon, we all think the worst and then Apple shows us the best.
How many people were wo
I do use it once in a while, but command W closes it just fine.
On Oct 26, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Erik Burggraaf wrote:
I used escape all the time for all the same purposes on mac OS as on windows:
closing menus and dialogs, canceling actions...
Now that I'm completely mobile and have no use for a
Granados
Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
I’m with you and we don’t have to go that far back. How many people did we
hear complain about the virtual home button instead of the real button like
ct: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
I think it comes down to the whole fear of change or the unknown. People
speculate about a change, they speculate more and they start assuming the
worse. It’s happen so many times over the years with technology that I am at
the p
ot;
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
Hi,
Just as a matter of interest to folks, cmd-period invokes the Cancel in most
situations in the MacOS. So, getting out of dialogs etc should still be
simple. Regarding the Escape k
That’s a good one.
I miss Steve Jobs. I think his ideas have been continued well and I like where
the phone is going but I miss the revolutionary stuff coming out as frequently.
Apple needs to do something again to blow the world apart so I quit taking a
bath in Apple shares every time they o
Exactly what I thought too. Hogwash to put it mildly. I will leave
it at that except note my quote below. (smiles)
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/26/2016 2:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
I would not believe the crap that guy has just s
Scott,
This may be exactly why I think Sierra and iOS 10 is leaps ahead.
One comment I read today here reminds me of a tagline I read many
years ago. Its something like "only KGB keyboards have no Escape key".
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.
I would not believe the crap that guy has just said on the list about not
needing an escape key. I've noticed that he says stuff just for the hell of it.
> On 26 Oct 2016, at 18:04, Erik Burggraaf wrote:
>
> I used escape all the time for all the same purposes on mac OS as on windows:
> closin
John a big +1.
And now that the headphone jack is gone, people don’t hate it. Lots of
comments from all walks of life enjoy the improved audio.
I’m glad that the folks at Apple like to push the boundaries even if it costs
me dearly in the wallet area.
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 5:23 PM, John Panar
David, I remember seeing a Steve Jobs presentation that confirms exactly what
you state. I was still in San Francisco which makes me think it was around
2010 or so where he mentioned that the goal was to unify the Mac, Phone and all
other devices around the same software and style. I think you
I think it comes down to the whole fear of change or the unknown. People
speculate about a change, they speculate more and they start assuming the
worse. It’s happen so many times over the years with technology that I am at
the point in which I don’t even bother reading the FUD that comes out
Kliph, we Unix users work with the escape fairly frequently in VI for example
to change operational modes. That’s just one application where I use the key.
You can also use it to exit things like popup menus etc.
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>
> Honestly, who uses a
Don’t worry Simon, we all think the worst and then Apple shows us the best.
How many people were worried and dare I say even tried to create a panic storm
over the lack of headphone jack which is a total non issue now, the virtual
home button. Let’s go back, how many blindness lists had claims
I’m with you and we don’t have to go that far back. How many people did we
hear complain about the virtual home button instead of the real button like the
previous iPhones. Once it was released a lot of us who were somewhat concerned
(myself included) thought the new button was the coolest thi
Hi,
Just as a matter of interest to folks, cmd-period invokes the Cancel in most
situations in the MacOS. So, getting out of dialogs etc should still be
simple. Regarding the Escape key being mapped to specific actions, these
actions will likely just be mapped to a different key combination.
Yup, bluetooth keyboards for sure, but really they should just skip dictation
and go straight to telepathy. Of course they wouldn't want to do that since
that would eliminate all their moneymaking tech. But I can think faster than
type and I never have to correct a thought with autocorrect.
--
I use the escape key frequently in the shortcut key sequences for the
shut down options. However the removal of the escape key does not
surprise me at all as Apple are clearly on a direction of travel. For
years now Apple has followed a strategy of transferring technologies
and techniques from
I used escape all the time for all the same purposes on mac OS as on
windows: closing menus and dialogs, canceling actions...
Now that I'm completely mobile and have no use for a pc style system, I
think I'm just as glad. I mean, if you're just going to turn powerful and
bulky desktop hardwar
ctober 26, 2016 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
I use it in the virtual machine in Windows. There's going to be extra work
to remap it.
On 26 Oct 2016, at 17:40, Kliphton Miller wrote:
Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway. I was just sitting h
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From: "Kliphton Miller"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway. I was just sitting here thinking,
and I couldn't t
I guess you never use voiceover keyboard help.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>
> Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway. I was just sitting here thinking,
> and I couldn't think of 1 thing I actually use the escape key for. Windows
> yes, b
I use it in the virtual machine in Windows. There's going to be extra work to
remap it.
> On 26 Oct 2016, at 17:40, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>
> Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway. I was just sitting here thinking,
> and I couldn't think of 1 thing I actually use the escape key for. Windo
Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway. I was just sitting here thinking, and
I couldn't think of 1 thing I actually use the escape key for. Windows yes,
but not on OSX. JMO
Miller Family
Without Christ there is no life!
On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
I'm starting to lo
I'm starting to lose faith in apple,
These things sound like going to far,
But then hey, I had no issues with the headphone jack going...
Guess this is a wait and see situation.
I just want a quad core processor in my mac book air and `32gig ram with 1tb
ssd
I'll be happy even with a 13 in
Well, good luck to those who decided to go with the new MB pro.
I know many doubt, but look back to the iPhone 3gs, things worked out fine in
the end. Apple has a history of pushing shocking ideas to the for, and look
where we are today.
I might not be one of those buying the new Mac, but I wou
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