Scott,
   This may be exactly why I think Sierra and iOS 10 is leaps ahead.

One comment I read today here reminds me of a tagline I read many years ago. Its something like "only KGB keyboards have no Escape key".

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On 10/26/2016 2:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
David, I remember seeing a Steve Jobs presentation that confirms exactly what 
you state.  I was still in San Francisco which makes me think it was around 
2010 or so where he mentioned that the goal was to unify the Mac, Phone and all 
other devices around the same software and style.  I think you’re dead on right 
with this one.


On Oct 26, 2016, at 1:14 PM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote:

I use the escape key frequently in the shortcut key sequences for the shut down 
options. However the removal of the escape key does not surprise me at all as 
Apple are clearly on a direction of travel. For years now Apple has followed a 
strategy of transferring technologies  and techniques from their phones to 
Macs.   This seem likely then to, as on their phones, see the

increasing removal of all mechanical parts on Macs. To my mind the 
disappearance of all the specialist keys apart from possibly  the basic Qwerty 
set is pretty inevitable given the travel of their thought.    Obviously 
speculation but I think intelligent speculation given their record.  It will be 
a little in the future but I believe that they would probably want to 
eventually get rid of even the Qwerty keyboard, possibly accomodating touch 
typists by using virtual keys  in much the same way as the home button has been 
recently replaced by a virtual version on the iPhone 7.
You would have a nice pretty smooth look not spoilt by the "old fashinoned" 
look of technology with keyboards. the argument will be everybody will be dictating 
anyway. . I can hear the debate now.

"Old fashioned" touch typists  who had an issue with this would probably be 
invited to use a bluetooth keyboard in the same way as they do on their phones.

I personally will not be buying one of these in the future when they arrive, or 
if I did , I would immediately attach a proper keyboard.


David Griffith

On 26/10/2016 17:40, Kliphton Miller wrote:
Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway.  I was just sitting here thinking, and 
I couldn't think of 1 thing I actually use the escape key for.  Windows yes, 
but not on OSX.  JMO

Miller Family
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On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

I'm starting to lose faith in apple,

These things sound like going to far,

But then hey, I had no issues with the headphone jack going...
Guess this is a wait and see situation.

I just want a quad core processor in my mac book air and `32gig ram with 1tb ssd

I'll be happy even with a 13 inch device and those specs.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2016 1:45 PM
To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 
mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks

I just saw an article talking about how you can re-map and existing key, such 
as control, caps lock, command or option, to take the place of the escape key 
which is going away on the new MacBooks to be revealed on Thursday. There will 
still be that functionality on the new magic track bar or whatever they're 
calling it. But if you are a person who wants to have a hardware escape key, 
you will have to remap an existing key to get it. For those of you who use caps 
lock for voiceover, good luck. I have no idea how that Mike coexist with this 
new functionality. Or you're stuck with the new magic track bar and it's soft 
functionality. Could be interesting.
Mary


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