Hi Chris, >From watching gthe release presentation They said that the touch bar will act in a dynamic state for example if you open safari then the touch bar gives one lot of keys, If you were to open garage band then you get another lot of function key features. Or should that be tools.
If you hold the FN key down for a few seconds then the function keys across what is now the touch bar will appear to the user and give another version of tools or function keys such as what we are use to. So they are still there it's just they aren't there by default or individual keys as we are use to having. There was a very cool little video before the presentation started, It was showing what apple have done with regard to accessibility and features for the disabled users within apple products. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2016 1:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks Wait, The function keys show up when you hold down the FN key? So, does this mean, since it's just normally a bar, that the function keys are motorized and will pop up when you hit the fn key? Can you try maybe better explaining, if possible? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Fogarty" <si...@blinky-net.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:24 AM Subject: RE: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks In the presentation it changes with each application your running, Something like dynamic I guess But if you hold the fn key down the function keys show up. I'd like to know if you can get the 13" touch bar model but with the standard keyboard rather than the new one, and the max ram, SSD and I7 processor. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016 7:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks Looks like we’ll have lots of keys to map now with the light bar. I’m intrigued by the idea but need to try one out myself to see what it’s like. > On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:12 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Sure, if osx suffices for your use cases, this is probably correct. > > But, if you want to host virtual machines, e.g. via VMware, here's yet > another key to map, and yet another way to make using those virtual > machines problematic, i.e. harder to reliably stay in the vm vs > accessing the chrome of the host vm server. > > Personally speaking, I'm not satisfied remapping Ctrl, Option, and > Command to host Windows and Linux. I've just not been sufficiently > happy with doing this on my Airbook to the extent that I took an 8 > year old laptop with me on my last several business trips rather than > the Airbook. > > Janina > > Kliphton Miller writes: >> Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway. I was just sitting here >> thinking, and I couldn't think of 1 thing I actually use the escape >> key for. Windows yes, but not on OSX. JMO >> >> Miller Family >> Without Christ there is no life! >> >> On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >> >> I'm starting to lose faith in apple, >> >> These things sound like going to far, >> >> But then hey, I had no issues with the headphone jack going... >> Guess this is a wait and see situation. >> >> I just want a quad core processor in my mac book air and `32gig ram >> with 1tb ssd >> >> I'll be happy even with a 13 inch device and those specs. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2016 1:45 PM >> To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; >> mac4thebl...@freelists.org >> Subject: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks >> >> I just saw an article talking about how you can re-map and existing key, >> such as control, caps lock, command or option, to take the place of the >> escape key which is going away on the new MacBooks to be revealed on >> Thursday. There will still be that functionality on the new magic track >> bar or whatever they're calling it. But if you are a person who wants to >> have a hardware escape key, you will have to remap an existing key to get >> it. For those of you who use caps lock for voiceover, good luck. I have >> no idea how that Mike coexist with this new functionality. Or you're >> stuck with the new magic track bar and it's soft functionality. Could be >> interesting. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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