Sorry slipped fingers. Key quote from the iMore review: "There's also accessibility built in. Touch Bar supports VoiceOver, so it'll say the tools out loud for those with low or no vision. And it can also offer easy access to Switch Control."
That's encouraging as it was the first concrete confirmation I've seen that the TouchBar has been VO enabled. Be interested how this works in terms of productivity. When in apps that do use good old fashioned function or escape keys its going to be a pain if we have to tap to hear the key and then again to activate it. Garry On 10/28/16, Garry Turkington <gat.acc...@gmail.com> wrote: > From the hands-on review of the TouchBar enabled MBPs on iMore (1): > > > 1. http://www.imore.com/hello-again-hands-new-macbooks-pro > > On 10/28/16, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Why not just use the bluetooth pairing on the watch to the headset of >> your >> choice along with the phone. >> >>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:03 PM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, and i was asking if it was possible to route watch voice over to >>> iPhone SE. So i potentially could listen to apple watch voice over via >>> iPhone SE ….. and of course via the 3.5mm headphone jack. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>>> 26. okt. 2016 kl. 23.25 skrev Scott Granados >>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> John a big +1. >>>> >>>> And now that the headphone jack is gone, people don’t hate it. Lots of >>>> comments from all walks of life enjoy the improved audio. >>>> >>>> I’m glad that the folks at Apple like to push the boundaries even if it >>>> costs me dearly in the wallet area. >>>> >>>>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 5:23 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think it comes down to the whole fear of change or the unknown. >>>>> People speculate about a change, they speculate more and they start >>>>> assuming the worse. It’s happen so many times over the years with >>>>> technology that I am at the point in which I don’t even bother reading >>>>> the FUD that comes out. I particularly discard it all faster when the >>>>> new device or change hasn’t even hit the market yet, like the whole >>>>> flap >>>>> over the headphone jack being removed from the iPhone 7. How many >>>>> months >>>>> did that all get bandied about before there actually was an iPhone 7 >>>>> in >>>>> the wild? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> >>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>> Director >>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>> >>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer >>>>> >>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>> >>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Scott Granados >>>>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Don’t worry Simon, we all think the worst and then Apple shows us the >>>>>> best. How many people were worried and dare I say even tried to >>>>>> create >>>>>> a panic storm over the lack of headphone jack which is a total non >>>>>> issue now, the virtual home button. Let’s go back, how many blindness >>>>>> lists had claims of the watch not having voice over and so on and so >>>>>> forth. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t see that MacBook air design ever hitting the market only >>>>>> because there’s not enough room in that form factor as well as a way >>>>>> to >>>>>> dissipate the heat. You think the air can run warm, try a quad core >>>>>> MacBook 15 inch with all that extra metal for a heatsink. Besides, >>>>>> they want to sell you a MacBook pro if you need that kind of >>>>>> horsepower >>>>>> for an extra 2000.:) >>>>>> >>>>>> Frankly, I just want something I can implant on my brain that gives >>>>>> me >>>>>> google available 24/7 directly wired to my brain so I have all the >>>>>> resources of the planet available at a thought rather than having to >>>>>> type or speak. For that matter, how nice would it be to just >>>>>> download >>>>>> language packs or skills. (Want to learn Calculous, pay your $100 >>>>>> and >>>>>> boom, you’re doing derivatives.) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm starting to lose faith in apple, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These things sound like going to far, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But then hey, I had no issues with the headphone jack going... >>>>>>> Guess this is a wait and see situation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just want a quad core processor in my mac book air and `32gig ram >>>>>>> with 1tb ssd >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll be happy even with a 13 inch device and those specs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2016 1:45 PM >>>>>>> To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; >>>>>>> mac4thebl...@freelists.org >>>>>>> Subject: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just saw an article talking about how you can re-map and existing >>>>>>> key, such as control, caps lock, command or option, to take the >>>>>>> place >>>>>>> of the escape key which is going away on the new MacBooks to be >>>>>>> revealed on Thursday. There will still be that functionality on the >>>>>>> new magic track bar or whatever they're calling it. But if you are a >>>>>>> person who wants to have a hardware escape key, you will have to >>>>>>> remap >>>>>>> an existing key to get it. For those of you who use caps lock for >>>>>>> voiceover, good luck. I have no idea how that Mike coexist with this >>>>>>> new functionality. Or you're stuck with the new magic track bar and >>>>>>> it's soft functionality. Could be interesting. >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>> list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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