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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheree Heppe
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> Cheree Heppe here
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheree Heppe
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
Cheree Heppe here:
That sounds like a
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Morales
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Word Service, an excellent addition to any word processing
application (was Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver)
Hi all,
In the Office 2011 thread, we
bbons from scratch now!
Cheers
Dave
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Morales
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
esday, September 28, 2010 12:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
Text edit will certainly handle the word processor side of things, and open
office should handle the spreadsheet.
On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:22 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> All I will need
y did in Word? And if we don't know
>>> the answer, why not try creating that document in Pages when we're not on a
>>> time crunch? We might just surprise ourselves. In an effort to remain
>>> objective, I will also take the opportunity to include this link in my
&g
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might do it. I'll have to explore that at some point.
Isaac
- Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" >
To:
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
I too will be switching to I works rather than working with
Microso
bout sixty bucks a share? I am guessing
>> You sound like you went to business management school. I've never seen such
>> a dissertation on an office suite before! I had to read it to the end. Not
>> even Ester and Anne robbinson talk in such depth! Whew! I think I
ISAAC OBIE wrote:
>
>> Hi Kawal,
>> Frankly, I don't like programs like MS Word because it's too big for what I
>> want to do. It's huge, clumsy and plain a pain in the posterior. I love
>> notepad! I think Notepad can do all I want including cleaning up a file
AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>
> but how good is OpenOffice really? When i tested it i found a couple show
> stoppers. You couldn't do a say all command, because VO or if it is OOO
> itself presents every par
ilto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>
> I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed,
>
really get in to the Mac I think Text edit might do the trick. I
>> honestly don't know yet. Maybe Esther's "Simplenote" might do it. I'll have
>> to explore that at some point.
>> Isaac
>> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu
t; to explore that at some point.
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>
>
>> I too will be switching to I works rather than workin
Scott, where is this stated. If it is such a well known fact, I would like to
read the reasons myself. Can you provide a source?
Thanks,
On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Actually, it's well documented why Microsoft doesn't address accessibility
> directly.
>
> On Sep 26,
The question here is what specific security issues? Clearly, they were made
aware of the issues. We should try and find out what the issues are. It would
be no different if for security concerns, you couldn't see the sdreen.
Corporations wouldn't stand for this. It's the same like putting up a s
It's excellent!
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "Cheree Heppe"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>
>
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>
>> Notepad isn't enough for me, so I am
Hi,
You have three choices:
1. Text Edit,
2. Pages.
3. Iworks!
and read Rose Morales' note. It's excellent!
Isaac
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From: "Cheree Heppe"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
Cheree
Actually, it's well documented why Microsoft doesn't address accessibility
directly.
On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, really,
> Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not aware of
> ac
uot; might do it. I'll have
> to explore that at some point.
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>
>
>> I too will
Cheree Heppe here:
Notepad isn't enough for me, so I am hoping that the Apple alternative to
Office is comparable.
Regards,
Cheree Heppe
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From: "ISAAC OBIE"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and V
Cheree Heppe here:
That sounds like a plan. How does IWorks differ from the Microsoft product?
Regards,
Cheree Heppe
- Original Message -
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>
w! I think I'll take
four more tylenols! :) :)
I am going to save this one! this is a keeper!
Isaac
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From: "Rose Morales"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
The problem with something like Note
on't know yet. Maybe Esther's "Simplenote" might do it. I'll have
> to explore that at some point.
> Isaac
> - Original Message ----- From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Micro
s.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
but how good is OpenOffice really? When i tested it i found a couple show
stoppers. You couldn't do a say all command, because VO o
but how good is OpenOffice really? When i tested it i found a couple show
stoppers. You couldn't do a say all command, because VO or if it is OOO itself
presents every paragraph in a document as a separate edit box. Also you
couldn't select using vo commands and you couldn't select whole blocks
t edit might do the trick. I
honestly don't know yet. Maybe Esther's "Simplenote" might do it. I'll have
to explore that at some point.
Isaac
- Original Message -
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: M
e story,
>> almost the reverse story, on the windows side!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arri
oups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>>
>> I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed,
>> really
om] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>
> I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed,
> really, Microsoft has no excuse for
Erik,
Yes you could always install Debian etc. However, that should not be necessary.
OO does work reasonably well, but iWorks suite is also quite accessible and I
am hoping the next version will be even more accessible. I am not sure Mark
when it will be out, but I gather sometime in the next
No I tested the release version of Microsoft Office for Mac 2011
Greg
On Sep 27, 4:18 am, "M. Taylor" wrote:
> Hello Greg,
>
> Thank you so much for providing this info.
>
> I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of
> Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility.
ionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed,
really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not lik
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and Voice
The same thing happened with messenger for the mac, the messages could not be
read. Fortunately, there is a great alternative, adium, which works great and
is very accessible.
On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> Mark,
>
> I suspect Microsoft is simply not interested in accessibil
I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, really,
Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not aware of
accessibility and voice over, they just chose not to do anything with it. Apple
has created a built in screen reader and provided the APIs to m
Well, it may be issues with support as well as development. Remember we also
have access to OOo, which is accessible. Barring that, you could always install
Debian within a BM and use the GO.OO.org version which is nincluded in the
distribution.
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:58 PM, S
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
Mark,
I suspect Microsoft is simply not interested in accessibility for the Mac. I
have never hear
Mark,
I suspect Microsoft is simply not interested in accessibility for the Mac. I
have never heard anything that would indicate a reason for Microsoft to take
the time to make the Office suite accessible. If accessibility is not in the
beta now, I would wager it will not be in the final versio
Hello Greg,
Thank you so much for providing this info.
I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of
Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility.
Wow!
You know, when I installed the very first beta of Windows 7, it was
completely accessible. That is to say, as so
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