I bet that if they tried, they would soon realise that the ribbons
would
be
difficult if not impossible to implement with VO anyway. As it is,
their
insistence on these awful things is one of my key drivers for making
the
switch, though there are many others too. Mike, the podcast where you
install Snow Leopard is as good a demonstration as anything of how far
things have come on the Mac side, I'm afraid it is the opposite story,
almost the reverse story, on the windows side!
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed,
really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were
not
aware of accessibility and voice over, they just chose not to do
anything
with it. Apple has created a built in screen reader and provided the
APIs to
make programs accessible, Microsoft has definitely shown their
interest
in
this. At least on the mac, there are alternatives that will handle
Microsoft
Office files, namely iwork and open office.
On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Greg,
Thank you so much for providing this info.
I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of
Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility.
Wow!
You know, when I installed the very first beta of Windows 7, it was
completely accessible. That is to say, as soon as one launched the
installation program for Windows 7, a very clear voice prompt asked
if
audio
assistance was required. This came as a total surprise to me, to say
the
least. I answered in the affirmative and was able to install Windows
7
without any sighted assistance, whatsoever. I installed that first
beta
on
three of my computers. By the way, the voice that was used to guide
me
through the setup was not that of Narrator--it was much clearer.
Astonishingly, with the release of the next beta of Windows 7, this
feature
was removed. I was shocked, disappointed, and angry, to say the
least.
It was then that I began considering purchasing a Macintosh.
It's been much too long to recall how I came to learn Microsoft's
reason
for
removing this feature but they said they removed it for security
concerns;
to which I exclaim, "TommyRot!!!!!" Or, to put it in the vernacular,
"That's a load of crap!!!!"
Greg, is it possible that the final release of Office 2011 will be
VoiceOver
accessible? I mean, you reviewed a beta, did you not? Perhaps I'm
just
grasping at straws, eh? (Smile)
Thanks again for giving us a proverbial "heads-up" on this one.
Most Sincerely,
mark
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary
Beth
Janes; Mike Shebanek
Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test
Microsoft
Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version
than
in
any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to
interact
with any of the content areas of the program. You are not able to
review,
read or edit the text area in Word or Excel.
It should not be clear to all that Microsoft has no intention of ever
fixing
these issues. I communicated directly with Microsoft over the same
failing
in Office 2008. The fact that after a complete rewire of the programs
they
remain inaccessible to the built in screen reader of the OS to me
speak
volumes about Microsoft's total lack of commitment to accessibility
on
the
Macintosh platform and may well speak to Microsoft's general
commitment
to
the platform as well.
Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media
Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA
PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park
WA
6100
Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 |www.guidedogswa.com.au
Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)
Email: greg.kear...@guidedogswa.com.au
Email: gkear...@gmail.com
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