Text edit will certainly handle the word processor side of things, and open office should handle the spreadsheet. On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:22 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> All I will need to do is basic text editing, reading of word documents and > some fairly basic spreadsheet work. I'm hoping that Text Edit and Open > Office will get me through that! > > Cheers > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:18 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver > > but how good is OpenOffice really? When i tested it i found a couple show > stoppers. You couldn't do a say all command, because VO or if it is OOO > itself presents every paragraph in a document as a separate edit box. Also > you couldn't select using vo commands and you couldn't select whole blocks > of text because you couldn't select line by line, which makes it hard when > selecting long pieces of text. > /Krister > 27 sep 2010 kl. 00.02 skrev Mike Arrigo: > >> I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, > really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not > aware of accessibility and voice over, they just chose not to do anything > with it. Apple has created a built in screen reader and provided the APIs to > make programs accessible, Microsoft has definitely shown their interest in > this. At least on the mac, there are alternatives that will handle Microsoft > Office files, namely iwork and open office. >> On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >>> Hello Greg, >>> >>> Thank you so much for providing this info. >>> >>> I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of >>> Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility. >>> >>> Wow! >>> >>> You know, when I installed the very first beta of Windows 7, it was >>> completely accessible. That is to say, as soon as one launched the >>> installation program for Windows 7, a very clear voice prompt asked if > audio >>> assistance was required. This came as a total surprise to me, to say the >>> least. I answered in the affirmative and was able to install Windows 7 >>> without any sighted assistance, whatsoever. I installed that first beta > on >>> three of my computers. By the way, the voice that was used to guide me >>> through the setup was not that of Narrator--it was much clearer. >>> >>> Astonishingly, with the release of the next beta of Windows 7, this > feature >>> was removed. I was shocked, disappointed, and angry, to say the least. >>> >>> It was then that I began considering purchasing a Macintosh. >>> >>> It's been much too long to recall how I came to learn Microsoft's reason > for >>> removing this feature but they said they removed it for security > concerns; >>> to which I exclaim, "TommyRot!!!!!" Or, to put it in the vernacular, >>> "That's a load of crap!!!!" >>> >>> Greg, is it possible that the final release of Office 2011 will be > VoiceOver >>> accessible? I mean, you reviewed a beta, did you not? Perhaps I'm just >>> grasping at straws, eh? (Smile) >>> >>> Thanks again for giving us a proverbial "heads-up" on this one. >>> >>> Most Sincerely, >>> >>> mark >>> - >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney >>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary > Beth >>> Janes; Mike Shebanek >>> Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >>> >>> It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft >>> Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in >>> any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to interact >>> with any of the content areas of the program. You are not able to review, >>> read or edit the text area in Word or Excel. >>> >>> It should not be clear to all that Microsoft has no intention of ever > fixing >>> these issues. I communicated directly with Microsoft over the same > failing >>> in Office 2008. The fact that after a complete rewire of the programs > they >>> remain inaccessible to the built in screen reader of the OS to me speak >>> volumes about Microsoft's total lack of commitment to accessibility on > the >>> Macintosh platform and may well speak to Microsoft's general commitment > to >>> the platform as well. >>> >>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media >>> Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA >>> PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park WA > 6100 >>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au >>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America) >>> Email: greg.kear...@guidedogswa.com.au >>> Email: gkear...@gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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