No, I am indeed double tapping the screen area to open the menu. VO
does say "menu" but any flicks at that point just ding. I can slide my
finger around and find the choices but I can never flick to them in
this situation. Some claim they can get this to work when the
brightness is turned all the w
Hi Steve,
Maybe I'm not reading your comments correctly, but in order to flick between
menu items from the Kindle app when I have continuous reading on for a book, I
have to first double tap with one finger in the center of the page, then hear
VoiceOver say "Menu On". At that point I can flick
Hi after reading some 80 messages in this thread, I thought I would
put up some observations I have found so far with the Kindle app and
my iPad Mini. First off, I could get continuous read to work only in
landscape mode. When in portrait, it would read a page or two and then
stop every time. Flick
Hi,
yes.
I have a little bit of usable vision so, I turned my screen brightness up to
100%. Next, I went to settings/general/accessibility and inverted the colors
and turned on the screen curtain. When you do this, you can see light from the
display clearly.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rica...@ap
I wondered about that. If what you're saying is right, it's a real shame. I
thought the screen curtain might just kill all light to the screen, thereby
conserving battery.
Have you actually tested this, have you? What did you do and what were the
results? It's very interesting.
On 06/05/2013,
Hello,
Sorry, I forgot to write the main part of my message. lol. In my opinion,
screen curtain is not as good at conserving battery life as actually reducing
screen brightness. In my rudimentary testing, turning the screen curtain on
just basically turns the pixels opaque, not dim the backli
Wow. That's dedicated. Must be time consuming. Do you report your findings on
AppleVis? Sorry, I'll withdraw that last comment as it's off topic.
On 06/05/2013, at 11:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Haha, I just stumbled upon it to be honest. When I get a new app, especially
one that has just b
Haha, I just stumbled upon it to be honest. When I get a new app, especially
one that has just been made accessible with Voiceover, I like to go through
every single setting and testing the effect they have on accessibility and
usability if any at all.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.in
Why don't you just turn the screen curtain on instead of lowering brightness?
Or do you still need the screen to look at?
P.S. That blows my mind a little, Ricardo, that you discovered that connection.
The last thing I'd think to experiment with in trying to solve a problem like
that would be s
Hi Mary,
It looks like you need to go to the Amazon/kindle site and jump down the rabbit
hole. lol. I'm not sure what I clicked on but, I finally found a contact us
link. I wish I had payed more attention but, I honestly had no clue what I was
doing or, what I was really looking for.
Ricard
haha,
No problem. I guess we will need to turn down system brightness in settings.
This is much easier on an iPad since brightness can be controlled from the app
switcher though.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On May 5, 2013, at 3:29
Yes this fixed it. That will teach me not to turn my brightness down. Thanks
very much for solving this Ricardo.
Lisette
Sent from my iPhone
On 5/05/2013, at 11:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been able to duplicate the issue of not being able to flick left or
> right to d
Ricardo, I think you have indeed found the problem. Can't lower brightness. I
had done that on my iPad right before having the problem of not being able to
flick to items on the menu. And I have not done it on the 4S, where the same
book's menu does not exhibit this problem. So, now I wonder whe
Kindle version,
>> I would be very interested in your observations.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
>> Sent: Saturday, May 04,
aries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
Hi Jamie,
I have had a similar experience to yours. Mine is with the New York Times.
What appears in the New York Time
ld be very interested in your observations.
>
> Thanks.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>
Hello,
I have been able to duplicate the issue of not being able to flick left or
right to different elements on the menu screen. I am pretty certain this is
caused when you go into view options in the menu, and lower brightness. Even
lowering brightness to 90% in the app will cause this. I
the same thing happens to me, but only about once a book. I don't get the menu
popping up either.
Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
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On 05/05/2013, at 1:09 PM, Ricard
Hi Lisette and Mary,
On the iPad, it may be the issue that the first generation model Mary
is using just doesn't have as much active memory to use for continuous
reading. I don't think that's an issue with the later model iPads. I
agree with Anne's assessment that some eBook versions simply don'
Hello Mary,
on my iPad mini, sometimes reading will just stop at the end of a page for no
reason I can figure. on average, I would say this might happen every 30 pages
or so? The menu doesn't pop up though, I'm just sitting there on the page.
When this occurs, I do a 3 finger swipe from rig
Hi,
Sorry. I'm not having this problem on my iPhone 5. Form the menu, I am able
to left/right flick through the buttons.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On May 4, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Lisette Wesseling
wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is anybod
Or on a 4s or a 4
Danny
Sent from my iPhone
On 05/05/2013, at 7:50 AM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the
> reader menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book. I
> can touch elements on the
Well, since I don't have an iPhone 5, I can't say about the flicking issue.
Hopefully somebody with a 5 will come along and put in their 2 cent's. I wonder
if anybody else with an iPad has encountered the issue where continuous read
does not work
Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com
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Hi Mary,I've tried it with two titles and so far they both exhibit this
problem. But I can still totally use the app so it's more of a minor annoyance
than anything else. I would never have believed the Kindle app would ever be
accessible. Where am I going to find the time to read all I now have
Hi Lisette,
I wonder if this not being able to flick thing is something random. I have
encountered this problem with a book on my iPad. That same book, on my 4S, does
not exhibit the problem. Also, on the iPad, when I do a continuous read in that
book and the page changes, instead of continuing
the Kindle version,
> I would be very interested in your observations.
>
> Thanks.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:51 PM
> To: macvis
ersion,
I would be very interested in your observations.
Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle no
Hi all,
Is anybody else with an iPhone 5 not able to flick left and right in the reader
menu? I don't mean the home screen, but the menu from within a book. I can
touch elements on the screen and activate them, but I have to find them rather
than flicking to them. On the iPad the reader menu wor
Hi,
Why? I can't see why that would matter much. But, I would assume the kindle
pages probably hold more text since there are no controls or elements visible
on the screen unlike iBooks. But, I'm no where near certain of this. Its just
a guess.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.in
I do that as well, Danny. Makes reading really nice, especially on an iPad.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 4, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
> I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to
> maximise the amount of text on each page though.
>
> Danny
>
> Sent from my iPho
One thing I have been trying to figure out is if the Kindle pages are any
bigger than the iBooks pages.
Jane
On May 4, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
> I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to
> maximise the amount of text on each page though.
>
> Dann
I don't mind the page turn noise but do set the smallest font size to maximise
the amount of text on each page though.
Danny
Sent from my iPhone
On 05/05/2013, at 1:05 AM, Maria & Joe Chapman wrote:
> I don't mind the page turning sound either. It kind of let's me know we're
> on a new pag
I don't mind the page turning sound either. It kind of let's me know we're on
a new page. Kind of reminds me of those read along books I used to listen to
when i was a kid. Couldn't see the print but the chime let me know when to
turn the page lol
Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
"The
Hi Anne,
that's funny, I love that page turning sound. I guess I still conceptualize
books, at least in part, by pages. :)
Cheers,
Donna
On May 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm
> delighted to have Kindle ac
Hello Mike,
Oh, silly me! I hadn't thought of that.
Cheers,
Anne
On 3 May 2013, at 10:59, Mike Busboom wrote:
> Hello Anne,
>
> Though this may not be the best solution, couldn't you just hit the mute
> switch on your iPhone to get rid of the page-turning sound? I do this with
> Blio and
Hello Anne,
Though this may not be the best solution, couldn't you just hit the mute switch
on your iPhone to get rid of the page-turning sound? I do this with Blio and
iBooks, and it works quite well.
Best,
Mike
On 3,May,2013, at 8:01 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> iBooks is even worse if
Hi,
if you don't like the page turning sound, why not flip the mute switch on your
phone?
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On May 3, 2013, at 2:01 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking co
iBooks is even worse if you live in a non-English speaking country, so I'm
delighted to have Kindle accessible to me now. I just wish Kindle didn't make
that page-turning sound, just like iBooks. Kobo reads a whole chapter at a time
without those irritating noises and pauses.
Cheers,
Anne
On
Don't get a kindle stand alone. Just use the ios app. Navigation is better with
the ios app than with any other means of reading Kindle books, short of
stripping drm and reading in iBooks. No Kindle device has accessibility equal
to the i-device app.
Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com
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I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I can say that I can't remember ever
finding a title on iBooks that was not also on Kindle. Not true for the other
way around, and that continues to be so through today. So I think iBooks is
definitely not catching up.
Mary
Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com
2013 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker <mailto:rwalker...@gm
Hi folks,
I am totally blind and wonder which of the standalone Kindle readers
should I purchase to get it with speech. Sorry for this off-topic
question which I forgot to include in my other message about Braille
sluggishness, regards.
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
And there was much amazement . . . and rej
r should I not bother looking for it?
>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>>> you
ooking for it?
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>>
ooking for it?
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>>
mery
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>>> you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
>&
, Scott Rumery
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>>> you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPh
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>> you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 12:1
t;> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>>> you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
Indeed. I wish I could use my downloaded Voice Dream voice for everything. I
really like it.
Christine
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;>>>>>> accessible, or should I not bother looking for it?
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Scott Rumery
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazo
I have dozens of Kindle books which I bought only because I could not find them
in other accessible form, such as iBooks. I think the article that seemed to
indicate the size of the iBooks and Kindle collections are similar is mistaken.
I'm just glad to not have to strip drm any more in order to
>>>>> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>>> you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, "Jed Barton"
they are, I’m reading one now, and loving the accessibility although I wouldn’t
mind a better voice.
Tammy
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 8:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
This is interesting. At
;> No, you will have to go to the Amazon website to find books, but once
>>>>>>>> you make a purchase that title should show up on your iPhone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, "Jed Barton" wrote:
&g
27;t find an
option to do that.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
show up on your iPhone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 1, 2013, at 12:12 PM, "Jed Barton" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow guys, this is cool.
>>>>>>> Question, can you actually search for books and stuff? I co
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow guys, this is cool.
>>>>>>> Question, can you actually search for books and stuff? I couldn't find
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> option to do that.
>>>>>>&g
ually search for books and stuff? I couldn't find
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> option to do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>&
; option to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01
n you actually search for books and stuff? I couldn't find an
>>>> option to do that.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chri
tion, can you actually search for books and stuff? I couldn't find an
>>>>> option to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Beha
acvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
>>>>
>>>> And there was
Nope, no joke, I thought the same thing too until I tried it and actually read
a chapter and a half of a book I've been looking at on the other Kindle
keyboard with just speech, with my bluetooth braille display connected to my
iPhone. Talk about nice, and I hear that all the rest of the books a
Can one purchase and manage their kindle books from the amazon app then switch
over to the kindle app to download the book and read it? OMG! I am shocked,
amazed, and excited all at once. I can barely sit still in my seat. I thought
this was a mean joke at first.
Sent from Christina's iMac :
Grassman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
>>>
>>> And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
>>> Christine
>>>
.
>>>> Question, can you actually search for books and stuff? I couldn't find
>>>> an
>>>> option to do that.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisi
acvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
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And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ric
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Grassman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker
w
't find an
>>>> option to do that.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>>> Sent: Wedne
I have recent as my sorting order and they still show up. She does not need
these titles any more but I can't delete them because when I view my library on
Amazon the delete link is in an image, at least this is what Voice Over is
telling me. I have talked to Amazon and I was told that the Delet
Scott,
Does your daughter still need access to those kindle titles? If not, then I
believe you can sign in to your amazon account, go to manage my Kindle, or
something like that, and in there, you can actually delete the books, which
means, should you need them again, you'd have to repurchase th
t;> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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;> option to do that.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googleg
3-finger flick does enable switching pages n ibooks. Or you can use page
chooser, as you noted. The advantage to the Kindle app is that there are more
books to select from, and prices are usually, but not always, cheaper. I like
ibooks because they let you organize your titles in categories. I d
Amazon's mobile app for ios is accessible. You'll do lots of clicking through
various screens to see reviews etc, though. So unless you really have problems
with the regular site, I'd just stick with it. Others disagree, though.
Mary
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And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Haha. Hi,
I'm trying it out ri
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>>
>> And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
>>
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>>
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>
> And there was much amazement . . . a
27;t find an
> option to do that.
>
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I have been trying to use this as I have been waiting a long time to be able
read Kindle books but I am having one very annoying problem. I used my Amazon
account when we got our daughter a Kindle a couple of years ago and now all of
her titles show up in my Kindle app. I have gone through the p
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Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on IOS with Voiceover.
And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Haha. Hi,
>
> I'm trying it out right now. I don't think
And there was much amazement . . . and rejoicing . . .
Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Haha. Hi,
>
> I'm trying it out right now. I don't think you will be disappointed with the
> accessibility. I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and continuous
> read
Haha. Hi,
I'm trying it out right now. I don't think you will be disappointed with the
accessibility. I'm able to read by line/ word/ character, and continuous
reading with a 2 finger flick down seems to work just fine. Actually, when you
first open the book, it tells you the voiceover gestu
It's true, trust me.
Jane
On May 1, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was a
> joke. Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet --
> determined whether the navigation is as spectacular
It's a good thing it is May 1 and not April 1, or I would think this was a
joke. Is this really true, or am I dreaming? Has anyone tried it out yet --
determined whether the navigation is as spectacular as iBooks and the Nook app?
Christine
On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
Hi list,
In case you didn't hear yet, Kindle for IOS is now accessible with Voiceover.
You can read more about it here.
http://www.cultofmac.com/225836/kindle-for-ios-will-now-turn-your-favorite-books-into-audiobooks/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
hth
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