> "miyata" == miyata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
miyata> Now I realized that what I said before needs correcting: -GNU
miyata> gettext does not care locale.alias/locale.dir files X
miyata> supplies, -XDrawString() does not care locale.alias/locale.dir
miyata> either, -XmbDrawString()/XwcDraw
> "Victor" == lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> You should have a command named trace or strace. It is used
Victor> $ strace ERROR: unable to open /dev/log
Hmmm, I don't know how to fix that... Maybe 'man strace' can hel
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> You should have a command named trace or strace. It is used
$ strace
ERROR: unable to open /dev/log
logs --- in next letter.
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> "lavrenko" == lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> Pretty strange... Could you, so that we are sure we speak of the
JM> same thing, send me (directly) the output of configure and make
JM> install?
lavrenko> Better, I'll se
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> Pretty strange... Could you, so that we are sure we speak of
JM> the same thing, send me (directly) the output of configure and
JM> make install?
Better, I'll send you the input before ;-) :
$ ./configure --prefix=/h
> "Victor" == lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> Are you installing in the place where you told configure you would
JM> install? Did you use --prefix=~/opt/PUBlyx? If you did, this
JM> should work.
Victor> Yes, I use this prefix, of course.
Pretty strange... Could you, so that we are
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Victor" == Victor Lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> Lars| Be sure to verify that the locale directories has the
Lars> correct Lars| permisions. |
> "Victor" == Victor Lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> Lars| Be sure to verify that the locale directories has the
Lars> correct Lars| permisions. | They are correct. I think this is
Lars> Solaris' problem. And I will |
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> Lars| Be sure to verify that the locale directories has the
Lars> correct Lars| permisions. | They are correct. I think this
Lars> is Solaris' problem. And I will | localize GNU gettext also
Lars> (hope).
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes. SMiyata, do you read us?
No ;-) At least not real time.
Well, thanks to Mate Wierdl, I found out that I can post
the list again.
The encoding for XFree86/OS2 need not be the same as that for
PM/cmd.exe so this is not theoretically a proble
*Victor Lavrenko writes:
Lars| I have now included ru.po in the distrubution and it works.
Lars| There was one small error in ru.po that I fixed.
| Which one?
There was a missing newline in one of the strings.
Lars| Be sure to verify that the locale directories has the correct
Lars| permisions
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> *Victor Lavrenko writes: | Sorry, guys for ru.po. I've
Lars> forgot that these mails are cc'ed to | mailing list. Sorry
Lars> again.
Lars> I have now included ru.po in the distrubution and it
Lars> works. T
*Victor Lavrenko writes:
| Sorry, guys for ru.po. I've forgot that these mails are cc'ed to
| mailing list. Sorry again.
I have now included ru.po in the distrubution and it works. There was
one small error in ru.po that I fixed.
Be sure to verify that the locale directories has the correct
p
Sorry, guys for ru.po. I've forgot that these mails are cc'ed to
mailing list. Sorry again.
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> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> What problems do you have with gettext? If LyX cannot find
JM> gettext for some reason, it should use the one which is
JM> included in intl/ (you can force that with
JM> --with-included-gettext).
Included gettext
> "Victor" == Victor Lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> Especially since they often come from Moscow University, so you
JM> could potentially warn them against me ;)
Victor> :-) Of course. I'm from Moscow University too (PhD student).
Yes, I've seen that in your signature.
JM> On a r
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> My intention was certainly not to flame russian computer
JM> users, especially since I often have one or two of them near
JM> my office that could come and flame me 'live' :)
Victor> :-) Right decision! :-)
J
> "Victor" == lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> My intention was certainly not to flame russian computer users,
JM> especially since I often have one or two of them near my office
JM> that could come and flame me 'live' :)
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> All russian letters are in upper 128 characters, even
Victor> letters that looks like latin (e.g. "A"). But they are
Victor> differently ordered there. The order (and even position)
Victor> depends on operating
> "Victor" == Victor Lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> I thought the russian letter were in general in the upper 128
JM> characters...
Victor> All russian letters are in upper 128 characters, even letters
Victor> that looks like latin (e.g. "A"). But they are differently
Victor> order
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> Of course, not. Russian language consists of non-latin
Victor> letters. Look, for example at:
Victor> http://ferry.rbc.ru/img/rbc_lines1.gif --- it contains a
Victor> lot of letters that don't exist in ASCII.
> "Victor" == Victor Lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> No, ISO8859-5, CP1251, Mac/Cyrillic and so on are not the
Victor> aliases of Russian encoding. They are the different Russian
Victor> encodings. E.g. ord('A', ISO88
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> No, ISO8859-5, CP1251, Mac/Cyrillic and so on are not the
Victor> aliases of Russian encoding. They are the different
Victor> Russian encodings. E.g. ord('A', ISO8859-5) != ord('A',
Victor> CP1251), where ord(X
> "Victor" == lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> No, ISO8859-5, CP1251, Mac/Cyrillic and so on are not the
Victor> aliases of Russian encoding. They are the different Russian
Victor> encodings. E.g. ord('A', ISO8859-5) != ord('A', CP1251), where
Victor> ord(X, Y) is the binary code
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Victor" == Victor Lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> I think, we should provide an option to 'configure' so the
Victor> user can select the default encoding. There are no
Victor> standard for Russian encod
*Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes:
| I seem to remember that you can provide suboptions like ru@koi or
| something like that. We'll have to read the gettext doc to make
| sure...
I think that is usually used for dialects.
Lgb
> "Victor" == Victor Lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> I think, we should provide an option to 'configure' so the
Victor> user can select the default encoding. There are no standard
Victor> for Russian encoding, and sysadmins select locales for Russian
Victor> how they like: "ru.ko
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> *miyata writes: | Notice locale.alias in the standard
Lars> distribution of X defines | | ru ru_RU.ISO8859-5 | | So
Lars> message object files in koi8-r
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> *miyata writes: | Notice locale.alias in the standard
Lars> distribution of X defines | | ru ru_RU.ISO8859-5 | | So message
Lars> object files in koi8-r must be installed into |
Lars> koi8-r/LC_MESSAGES rather than ru/LC_MESSAG
*miyata writes:
| Notice locale.alias in the standard distribution of X defines
|
| ru ru_RU.ISO8859-5
|
| So message object files in koi8-r must be installed into
| koi8-r/LC_MESSAGES rather than ru/LC_MESSAGES The latter directory
| is for installing those in ISO8859-5
Does this also
Victor Lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I've submitted the po-file for koi8-r as 'ru.po'. Other encodings
> --- later.
Notice locale.alias in the standard distribution of X defines
ru ru_RU.ISO8859-5
So message object files in koi8-r must be installed into
koi8-r/
> "JM" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> Some words about my system:
Victor> $ uname -a SunOS grimgerde 5.5 Generic_103093-10 sun4m
Victor> sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-5
JM> Did you try to configure with --with-included-gettext? It
JM> might help on
Victor> Some words about my system:
Victor> $ uname -a SunOS grimgerde 5.5 Generic_103093-10 sun4m sparc
Victor> SUNW,SPARCstation-5
Did you try to configure with --with-included-gettext? It might help
on solaris.
JMarc
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> *Victor Lavrenko writes: | Yes. Inspite of my translation,
Lars> several menu items are shown in | English,
Lars> e.g. "Register". And I don't understand why: I've tried |
Lars> everything (copied from lyx.pot a
*Victor Lavrenko writes:
| Yes. Inspite of my translation, several menu items are shown in
| English, e.g. "Register". And I don't understand why: I've tried
| everything (copied from lyx.pot again and even tried to copy these
| lines from 'de.po' --- nothing helps).
What LyX version is this
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> *Victor Lavrenko writes: | By the way, I've found some bugs
Lars> (?): I cannot localize some items | in version control menu
Lars> --- they just displaying in English. What's | this?
Lars> What items? (is this
*Victor Lavrenko writes:
| OK, I've submitted the po-file for koi8-r as 'ru.po'. Other
| encodings --- later.
Ok, I'll put it into the distribution.
Lgb
*Victor Lavrenko writes:
| By the way, I've found some bugs (?): I cannot localize some items
| in version control menu --- they just displaying in English. What's
| this?
What items? (is this pre4?)
Lgb
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> It will be possible to compile LyX 1.0 under
Lars> WinNt/cygwin. but I don't know much about encodings. (how do
OK, I've submitted the po-file for koi8-r as 'ru.po'. Other encodings
--- later.
Lars> you make LyX
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lars> You can upload ru.po to ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/incoming
Lars> and I will put it into the distribution/sources.
Done. I've put ru.po there. I'd like to write README.rus, by the way,
but not today, possible tommorow
*Victor Lavrenko writes:
| You can upload ru.po to ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/incoming
| There are a lot of Russian encodings exist. The most popular are
| koi8-r (most UNIXes) and win1251 (MS Windows). How do you think:
| should I provide patches for all encoding types (is the Windows
| po
> "L" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
L> *lavrenko writes: | Hello, guys! I would like to become a
L> person responsible for | Russian localization of LyX. I've
L> already completed message
L> Nice, I'd be happy to get your ru.po file. For what version did
*lavrenko writes:
| Hello, guys! I would like to become a person responsible for
| Russian localization of LyX. I've already completed message
Nice, I'd be happy to get your ru.po file. For what version did you
make it? You could perhaps update it for the latest prerelease
lyx-1.0.0pre4 to be
> "Victor" == lavrenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Victor> Hello, guys! I would like to become a person responsible for
Victor> Russian localization of LyX. I've already completed message
Victor> translation and wonder when is the next public release
Victor> scheduled?
Next public release
Hello, guys!
I would like to become a person responsible for Russian localization
of LyX. I've already completed message translation and wonder when is
the next public release scheduled?
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