Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-09 Thread Jose' Matos
On Sunday 09 July 2006 19:40, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | > | Not only easily available but they are already there, and so they have > | been for some time. > > I'll admit to a few weeks. FWIW since 2006-05-24 -- José Abílio

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jose' Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Sunday 09 July 2006 14:57, Charles de Miramon wrote: | > For Fedora there are easily available packages | > | > http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/3/srodzaj/1/search/qt4 | | Not only easily available but they are already there, and so they have bee

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-09 Thread Jose' Matos
On Sunday 09 July 2006 14:57, Charles de Miramon wrote: > For Fedora there are easily available packages > > http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/3/srodzaj/1/search/qt4 Not only easily available but they are already there, and so they have been for some time. -- José Abílio

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-09 Thread Charles de Miramon
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > OK, once again: when 1.5 ships I would expect that people who have > installed a new distribution in July 2006 are not laughed at because > their distribution is really inadequate for using LyX. > Well the next stable versions of Debian and Mandriva (http://fr2.rp

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | And qt4 (the frontend) is already faster than qt3 nowadays on Windows | and Linux. Hmm... lets say 'equally fast' (or slow...) -- Lgb

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-07 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 11:59:22AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre> 'Using LyX 1.5 on a distribution shipped in July 2006' means Andre> 'installing LyX 1.5'. Installing Qt 4 in the same place is Andre> about the same (I'd even argue 'less') effort and requires the A

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 11:59:22AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Andre> 'Using LyX 1.5 on a distribution shipped in July 2006' means > Andre> 'installing LyX 1.5'. Installing Qt 4 in the same place is > Andre> about the same (I'd even argue 'less') effort and requires the > Andre> same set o

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jose'" == Jose' Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jose'> Without too much data, I have faith that it will, if not Jose'> become faster than qt3. I have two reasons for this, there are Jose'> (will be) more lyx developers working in qt4, and qt4 as André Jose'> says is improving speedwise

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-05 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 10:59, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Andre> I think it is sufficient to keep Qt 3 compilable, let GTK rot > Andre> (in the sense to declare it 'tolerated, but not supported by > Andre> the core team'), and put all effort into Qt 4. > > Also, are we sure that at that time q

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> 'Using LyX 1.5 on a distribution shipped in July 2006' means Andre> 'installing LyX 1.5'. Installing Qt 4 in the same place is Andre> about the same (I'd even argue 'less') effort and requires the Andre> same set of priviledges. Ar

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 11:57:27AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> So there is currently _no_ linux distribution that has a qt4 > >> really good enough for LyX? > > Andre> The point is that there is currently no distribution

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> G'day, y'all. It's great to see LyX-life is so busy and that Angus> debate is both in a healthy state and leading to improved Angus> outcomes ;-) I would even say it is in an improved state and leads to healthy outcomes. JMarc

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Jose' Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > PS: hello Angus! > I double. G'day, y'all. It's great to see LyX-life is so busy and that debate is both in a healthy state and leading to improved outcomes ;-) Angus

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 03 July 2006 14:21, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > It was supposed to be SCNR... In the previous context any of the following alternatives seems plausible: Acronym Definition SCNR Signal to Clutter plus Noise Ratio SCNR Somatic Cell Nuclear Replacement SCNR Sorry, Could Not Re

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: >> So, shall we decide now that LyX/Win 1.5 will only run on Windows >> Vista? Once the political decision is made, I am sure I can come up >> with technical reasons :) >> >> SNCR, JMarc Angus> SNCR? T

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: > So, shall we decide now that LyX/Win 1.5 will only run on Windows Vista? > Once the political decision is made, I am sure I can come up with > technical reasons :) > > SNCR, > JMarc SNCR? The best I could come up with is http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SNCR wh

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Edwin" == Edwin Leuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Jose' Matos wrote: >>> On Monday 03 July 2006 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: OK, once again: when 1.5 ships I would expect that people who have installed a new distribution in July 2006 are not laughed at because their

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Jose' Matos wrote: On Monday 03 July 2006 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: OK, once again: when 1.5 ships I would expect that people who have installed a new distribution in July 2006 are n

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Edwin Leuven
Jose' Matos wrote: On Monday 03 July 2006 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: OK, once again: when 1.5 ships I would expect that people who have installed a new distribution in July 2006 are not laughed at because their distribution is really inadequate for using LyX. they can install qt4. i do

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Jose' Matos wrote: >> On Monday 03 July 2006 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>> OK, once again: when 1.5 ships I would expect that people who have >>> installed a new distribution in July 2006 are not laughed at >>

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jose' Matos wrote: On Monday 03 July 2006 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: OK, once again: when 1.5 ships I would expect that people who have installed a new distribution in July 2006 are not laughed at because their distribution is really inadequate for using LyX. FWIW I agree. Then you

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 03 July 2006 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > OK, once again: when 1.5 ships I would expect that people who have > installed a new distribution in July 2006 are not laughed at because > their distribution is really inadequate for using LyX. FWIW I agree. -- José Abílio

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So there is currently _no_ linux distribution that has a qt4 >> really good enough for LyX? Andre> The point is that there is currently no distribution shipping Andre> LyX 1.5 either. OK, once again: when 1.5 ships I would expect tha

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:12:22PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Helge" == Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Helge> People who run an old distribution runs whatever old lyx that > Helge> distribution distributes, don't they? > > If LyX is important to them, having a new

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Abdelrazak> 4.1.0 will do fine yes but for speed I would recommend the | > Abdelrazak> latest. | > | > So there is currently _no_ linux distribution that has a qt4 really | > good enough for LyX? | | The point is that there is currently no distributi

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 10:19:23AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | > I won't mind xforms going away - with its not antialiased text, > | > cumbersome menus, and inability to use unicode. > | > But I hope qt3 will stay around until qt4 catches

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 03:49:45PM +0200, Edwin Leuven wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >Second, it _is_ our problem to ensure that LyX can be built (and work > >well) on a 2 years old distribution. > > i didn't know that qt4 doesn't work on 2 year old distros Neither did I, given that I am

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 01:54:03AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Edwin Leuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | > You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the > | > other frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one > | > o

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-07-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:18:09PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Abdelrazak> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >>> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Lars> AFAIK (and this depends on when 1

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Helge" == Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Helge> People who run an old distribution runs whatever old lyx that Helge> distribution distributes, don't they? If LyX is important to them, having a newer version is more important than having a newer linux.

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Helge" == Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Helge> People who run an old distribution runs whatever old lyx that Helge> distribution distributes, don't they? If LyX is important to them, having a newer version is more important than having a newer linux. Just consider the fact tha

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-28 Thread Helge Hafting
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all Lars> distri

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Peter Kümmel
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Peter" == Peter Kümmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Peter> To get an impression how Qt4 is available atm see the upper > Peter> left corner at: > > These are pointer to up to date (and presumably hard to find) rpms in > case where the distributor does not ha

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Peter" == Peter Kümmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> To get an impression how Qt4 is available atm see the upper Peter> left corner at: These are pointer to up to date (and presumably hard to find) rpms in case where the distributor does not have them, right? Thank for the pointer, I

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Peter Kümmel
Georg Baum wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >>> "Abdel" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> writes: So there is currently _no_ linux distribution that has a qt4 really good enough for LyX? Is your plan to tell people that they should not bother about LyX if t

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Edwin" == Edwin Leuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Edwin> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Second, it _is_ our problem to ensure that LyX can be built (and >> work well) on a 2 years old distribution. Edwin> i didn't know that qt4 doesn't work on 2 year old distros It is not the matter of b

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Georg Baum
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Abdel" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> writes: > >>> So there is currently _no_ linux distribution that has a qt4 >>> really good enough for LyX? Is your plan to tell people that they >>> should not bother about LyX if their distribution is mor

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Edwin Leuven
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Second, it _is_ our problem to ensure that LyX can be built (and work well) on a 2 years old distribution. i didn't know that qt4 doesn't work on 2 year old distros

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 26 June 2006 13:58, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > Yes, this is what I wrote. When it is out, we should be able to > > support distributions that are about 2 years old. > > Sorry but I still think this is not our problem if some two years old > distribution won't distribute a Qt4 package.

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Yes, this is what I wrote. When it is out, we should be able to >> support distributions that are about 2 years old. Abdelrazak> Sorry but I still think this is not our problem if some Abdelrazak> two years old distribution w

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Bennett Helm
On Jun 26, 2006, at 4:07 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: This is coming up just around the corner. My tree is already faster than qt3 on Windows and is apparently the same speed on Linux. Once we have some number for Mac we could make a decision IMHO. I'm compiling younes branch now, having ju

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 02:41:44PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Abdelrazak> All non-willing distributions can stay with LyX-1.4.x the > Abdelrazak> same way Win95 users won't have LyX > 1.3. > > I gues they can if th

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdel" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: So there is currently _no_ linux distribution that has a qt4 really good enough for LyX? Is your plan to tell people that they should not bother about LyX if their distribution is more than one year old? Ab

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdel" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So there is currently _no_ linux distribution that has a qt4 >> really good enough for LyX? Is your plan to tell people that they >> should not bother about LyX if their distribution is more than one >> year old? Abdel> Last point

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> All non-willing distributions can stay with LyX-1.4.x the Abdelrazak> same way Win95 users won't have LyX > 1.3. I gues they can if they have the real Qt3/Win. JMarc

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Peter Kümmel
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > So there is currently _no_ linux distribution that has a qt4 really > good enough for LyX? Is your plan to tell people that they should not > bother about LyX if their distribution is more than one year old? > > And I do not like bundling either. This whole stuff bega

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all Lars> distributions have Qt4 as default yet.

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jose' Matos wrote: On Monday 26 June 2006 11:02, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Who talk about maintaining a Qt copy? That is what you are saying below. :-) In the past, software were distributed in a tar.gz and it worked fine for all distrib. The past is the past. :-) We just need to extr

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Lars> AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all Lars> distributions have Qt4 as default yet. IMHO that is a L

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 26 June 2006 11:02, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Who talk about maintaining a Qt copy? That is what you are saying below. :-) > In the past, software were > distributed in a tar.gz and it worked fine for all distrib. The past is the past. :-) > We just need > to extract the librar

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As I said in another post, bundling two libs with the package or compiling statically against the libs (QtCore and QtGui) is not a big deal... I disagree. If we start to maintain our own qt4 copy we can as well keep the qt3 frontend in a working stat

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Peter Kümmel
Georg Baum wrote: > Edwin Leuven wrote: > >> Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >>> But my guess is that the question is moot in the time 1.5 is released. >> indeed >> >> and that's why we should depreciate qt3 (and xforms) to 1.4 > > Does anybody have a estimates when qt4 will be default in major distro

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Georg Baum
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > As I said in another post, bundling two libs with the package or > compiling statically against the libs (QtCore and QtGui) is not a big > deal... I disagree. If we start to maintain our own qt4 copy we can as well keep the qt3 frontend in a working state. The only reas

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all Lars> distributions have Qt4 as default yet. IMHO that is a Lars> requirement to drop qt3. Yes. Among the distributions that are current today, how

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Georg Baum wrote: | > Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > | >> AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all distributions | >> have Qt4 as default yet. IMHO that is a requirement to drop qt3. | > Agreed. I don't want

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Georg Baum
Edwin Leuven wrote: > Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> But my guess is that the question is moot in the time 1.5 is released. > > indeed > > and that's why we should depreciate qt3 (and xforms) to 1.4 Does anybody have a estimates when qt4 will be default in major distros? If we had that we could

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Gerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Are you aware of the fact that the same rules hold for ALL Michael> project members including yourself? This means that I won't Michael> accept a unicode patch before it works with all frontends! Michael> Good luck! (And I will o

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all Lars> distributions have Qt4 as default yet. IMHO that is a Lars> requirement to drop qt3. Yes. Among the distributions that are current today, how many ship a version of qt

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Edwin Leuven
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: But my guess is that the question is moot in the time 1.5 is released. indeed and that's why we should depreciate qt3 (and xforms) to 1.4

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Georg Baum wrote: | > Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > | >> AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all distributions | >> have Qt4 as default yet. IMHO that is a requirement to drop qt3. | > Agreed. I don't want LyX to use a different qt li

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all distributions have Qt4 as default yet. IMHO that is a requirement to drop qt3. Agreed. I don't want LyX to use a different qt lib than my KDE uses. This is non sense IMHO. What does it cost yo

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Georg Baum
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > AFAIK (and this depends on when 1.5 is ready) not all distributions > have Qt4 as default yet. IMHO that is a requirement to drop qt3. Agreed. I don't want LyX to use a different qt lib than my KDE uses. Georg

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Edwin Leuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > Edwin Leuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > | > You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the | > | > other frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > I won't mind xforms going away - with its not antialiased text, | > cumbersome menus, and inability to use unicode. | > But I hope qt3 will stay around until qt4 catches up on performance | > on all platforms. | | This is coming up just around the

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Edwin Leuven
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Edwin Leuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the | > other frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one | > of the frontends. | | this is why we should have 1 (

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Helge Hafting wrote: Edwin Leuven wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the other frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one of the frontends. this is why we should have 1 (and only 1) official frontend at a time it

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-26 Thread Helge Hafting
Edwin Leuven wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the other frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one of the frontends. this is why we should have 1 (and only 1) official frontend at a time it is madness to require

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Edwin Leuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the | > other frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one | > of the frontends. | | this is why we should have 1 (and only 1) official frontend

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Edwin Leuven
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the other frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one of the frontends. this is why we should have 1 (and only 1) official frontend at a time it is madness to require people to prevent 3

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Peter Kümmel
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Peter Kümmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | > You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the other > | > frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one of the > | > frontends. > | > > > [...] > | >

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Peter Kümmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the other | > frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one of the | > frontends. | > [...] | | Now you write that you have an improvement but

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Peter Kümmel
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > You see... there is the difference, I don't plan on breaking the other > frontends just because I am introducing a feature only for one of the > frontends. > > And this will be the case with unicode. > > (And if when I do/have done so, it has been a case of very bad >

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Michael Gerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | >Michael Gerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | >| Ask for xforms frontend removal - it is the easiest way to get things | >| done :-) | > | >And to hide the performance we should be aiming for imho. | > | Lars, | | someti

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Michael Gerz
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Michael Gerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ask for xforms frontend removal - it is the easiest way to get things | done :-) And to hide the performance we should be aiming for imho. Lars, sometimes it can become very tedious to discuss with you. Are you aware o

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Michael Gerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ask for xforms frontend removal - it is the easiest way to get things | done :-) And to hide the performance we should be aiming for imho. -- Lgb

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-25 Thread Michael Gerz
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: There are now two remaining uses of workArea_: BufferView::Pimpl::update(Update::flags flags) workArea_->redraw(*bv_, vi); workArea_->greyOut(); These should be reasonably easy to solve but then I am affraid of the work involved to fix the frontends other tha

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-23 Thread Peter Kümmel
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > And the good news is that, with this patch and msvc2005, the UserGuide > PageDown scrolling test is now at *18* seconds whereas it was at *34* > seconds previously! It is now faster than qt3 on my machine (which is 22s). Great, I also get a huge speedup, from 31 to 19 se

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-22 Thread Angus Leeming
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you want me to convert that to a class? No, I want you to initialize the variables when you create an instance of the thing: > struct ScrollbarParameters > { + ScrollbarParameters() + : height(0), + : position(0), +

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-22 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 22 June 2006 17:30, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > PODs I mean... I like this more: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/intrinsic-types.html#faq-26.7 -- José Abílio

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-22 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 22 June 2006 17:30, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > Angus Leeming wrote: > > > > What POS means anyway? > > PODs I mean... Plain Old Data: http://www.fnal.gov/docs/working-groups/fpcltf/Pkg/ISOcxx/doc/POD.html -- José Abílio

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-22 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: What POS means anyway? PODs I mean...

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-22 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Angus Leeming wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Index: BufferView.h === +struct ScrollbarParameters I get nervous when I see a class containing PODs but without a default constructor. I'd prefer to see S

Re: [Path] WorkArea eradication from BufferView, step 2: fix scrollbar handling

2006-06-22 Thread Angus Leeming
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > With this patch I further reduce the need for the workArea_ member in > BufferView::pimpl. Looks good. > And the good news is that, with this patch and msvc2005, the UserGuide > PageDown scrolling test is now at *18* seconds whereas it was at *34*