Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-28 Thread Georg Baum
Alex Vergara Gil wrote: >> Do you mean a native LyX file format which would be the primary format, >> or an auxiliary format for interfacing with external tools? > > I mean xml as primary format. Well, I wanted to know what Richard meant, but your opinion is welcome as well

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-28 Thread Richard Heck
xml handling is very vast! I think it's broadly agreed that LyX should have such a format. The problem is finding the time to do it. It's on my radar, hopefully for this summer. Do you mean a native LyX file format which would be the primary format, or an auxiliary format for interf

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-27 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
Do you mean a native LyX file format which would be the primary format, or an auxiliary format for interfacing with external tools? I mean xml as primary format. The native file format would need to be non-static and would need format changes as LyX develops (so would face similar problems to

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-27 Thread Georg Baum
easier to achieve because it is a matter of converting xml structures >> and the xml handling is very vast! > > I think it's broadly agreed that LyX should have such a format. The > problem is finding the time to do it. It's on my radar, hopefully for > this summer. Do

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 11:27 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. I assume this problem would persist with a pandoc approach, isn't it? The Lyx reader mod

About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-27 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. I assume this problem would persist with a pandoc approach, isn't it? The Lyx reader module would still be format-dependent, unless we go

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-15 Thread Bo Peng
> I hope I speak for everybody when I say it's very nice to hear from you > again[*]. Thanks. I still browse list emails from time to time and you know what topic attracts me most. :-) > I hope your pmwiki problem at sourceforge is fully resolved now. sourceforge.net does not allow sendmail so

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-15 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Bo Peng wrote: You can trust me on this. I am already retired so the most I can do is sending a few suggestions when some emails happen to catch my eyes. Vincent can ignore those comments at his own discretion. Hi Bo, I hope I speak for everybody when I say it's very nic

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Richard Heck
Pavel Sanda wrote: Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: I'd be happy to get feedback from you (and other experts on this issue), its very good somebody detached from the past flames works on this and i hope we won't lose next developer :) it would be indeed better to dissect the feature

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Bo Peng
> We are only talking about maintaining a list of links in the Buffer structure > within LyX itself, > not in an external manifest file. Sorry, I have not traced the development of LyX for a while... > Please, no drama this time :-) You can trust me on this. I am already retired so the most I

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Bo Peng wrote: Not that I am an expert but you first step is OK with me. Note that you kind of already have that with the Navigator for InsetGraphics. But the need for a manifest file/registration has not been agreed upon (my embedding approach does not need it). We are only talking abou

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Bo Peng
> Not that I am an expert but you first step is OK with me. Note that you kind > of already have that with the Navigator for InsetGraphics. But the need for a manifest file/registration has not been agreed upon (my embedding approach does not need it). I disagree with your incremental approach bec

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: I'm sort of working on the subject.. How do you think of David's proposal? Do you already have your own proposal or even implementation somewhere? Hi Bo, It's nice to see that David is thinking with us, but as you said, I think the prop

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: > - to implement the features incrementally, because I'm afraid that if I > propose one large patch sometime, that we will end up in a never-ending > discussion. I think the feature is separable into small chunks, which we > can discuss individually. > > - not t

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Konrad Hofbauer
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: If we have such a list we can easily implement "Export to directory..", which is step 1 of the embedding/bundling feature (IMHO). ... and already make a good chunk of the users happy! Well, at least one. :) /Konrad

RE: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>> I'm sort of working on the subject.. > >How do you think of David's proposal? Do you already have >your own proposal or even implementation somewhere? > Hi Bo, It's nice to see that David is thinking with us, but as you said, I think the proposal is not shockingly different from the things

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Bo Peng
> I'm sort of working on the subject.. How do you think of David's proposal? Do you already have your own proposal or even implementation somewhere? Bo

RE: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-13 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>> I guess I'll look forward to LyX 2.0 and embedding! > >I am not sure about this. The whole embedding/bundling feature >was postponed indefinitely due to discrepancies between developers. >Because I have retired from the development of LyX, you will not >see an embedding feature in LyX 2.0 unle

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-12 Thread Bo Peng
> I found a thread from about a year ago here which may be what you're talking > about. There were several flame wars about embedding ... to a level that the whole lyx-devel mailinglist was hijacked and everyone involved was 2nd degree burned. The unfruitful discussions eventually leaded to my ret

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-12 Thread David Mertens
Hey Bo, thanks again for your responses. it does not seem to differ much from a previous bundling implementation... > It was due to a lot of technical and usage difficulties that that > implementation was reverted. > I found a thread from about a year ago here

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-12 Thread Bo Peng
> Thanks for your thoughts. I skimmed your pdf but I'll have to give it a > fuller read later. In the meantime I wanted to respond to your post. I skimmed your file and it does not seem to differ much from a previous bundling implementation. (I can be wrong here but the manifest file etc were th

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-12 Thread David Mertens
that. Perhaps an option should be available to include the bibliography. The goal of this format is to ease colaboration. Structure = document.lyx compiled. manifest.xml ... /thumbs .thumb.png .thumb.png ... Internal vs External management ======= T

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-12 Thread David Mertens
Hello Bo - Thanks for your thoughts. I skimmed your pdf but I'll have to give it a fuller read later. In the meantime I wanted to respond to your post. The lossy .plyx -> .lyx -> .plyx conversion has been the center of all > discussions. > As I envision things, the actual conversion of .plyx -

Re: Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-12 Thread Bo Peng
> This allows for a > lossless .lyx -> .plyx -> .lyx conversion. Although .plyx -> .lyx -> .plyx > could be lossy, a script could be used to update the manifest of a new .plyx > file based on an old .plyx file to minimize the loss. The lossy .plyx -> .lyx -> .plyx conversion has been the center

Portable LyX File Format

2009-02-12 Thread David Mertens
Greetings all - I wanted to offer a suggestion about a portable LyX file format. This was recently brought up on the LyX-users mailing list and has been discussed previously (heatedly?) as documented here - http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/BundleSuggestions - and here - http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel

Re: LyX file format specification (for a Ruby project)

2007-01-10 Thread Angus Leeming
Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I was a little scared by the changes found in development/FORMAT, and > > I'm starting to think that it would be easier to parse the generated > > TeX directly. > Definitely not. Proper TeX parsing is a nightmare. That's surely true. But it (TeX) is a s

Re: LyX file format specification (for a Ruby project)

2007-01-10 Thread Georg Baum
Andrea Censi wrote: > Hello to all, and happy new year! > > For my own fun (something related to this: > http://maruku.rubyforge.org/) I want to parse LyX files. I am only > interested in basic stuff (paragraphs, lists, inline and block math) Note that all math is directly stored as TeX. I would

LyX file format specification (for a Ruby project)

2007-01-10 Thread Andrea Censi
Hello to all, and happy new year! For my own fun (something related to this: http://maruku.rubyforge.org/) I want to parse LyX files. I am only interested in basic stuff (paragraphs, lists, inline and block math) I have some questions: 1) is there already a Ruby parser for LyX? ("Ruby" as in htt

Re: lyx file format ?

2004-08-24 Thread Jose' Matos
ss Lyx, and I am very curios to know why the 'lyx' file > format is not 'tex'. I have looked over a 'lyx' file, and it seems to > me closer to RTF than anything else. This discussion appears periodically in the mailing list. :-) If search for it you in the arc

Re: lyx file format ?

2004-08-24 Thread Kuba Ober
> I came across Lyx, and I am very curios to know why the 'lyx' file > format is not 'tex'. First of all, because LyX isn't meant to be bound to TeX in any special way. It's a general, high-level editor that supports some constructs that are not gracefully s

Re: lyx file format ?

2004-08-24 Thread Asger Kunuk Ottar Alstrup
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Gerard Briscoe wrote: > Are there serious problems with using a 'tex' file format, which you do > export too, limitations which would make the LyX GUI hard to code ? LyX has it's own format, because: - besides LaTeX, LyX can also author SGML, XML, HTML, ASCII, and other fo

Re: lyx file format ?

2004-08-24 Thread Angus Leeming
tex -> lyx converter called tex2lyx (it's in the src/tex2lyx subdirectory of the cvs sources). If you decide to go with latex, then you'll need a tex parser that you can understand and build on. tex2lyx would be a reasonable starting point for such an endeveaour. As for why the

lyx file format ?

2004-08-24 Thread Gerard Briscoe
Dear all, I am looking to create a latex editor which works similarly to how dreamweaver works for HTML, where you can edit both the latex markup language and the output in a split pane window. I came across Lyx, and I am very curios to know why the 'lyx' file format is not &#x

Re: Documentation of the lyx file format

2004-08-18 Thread Chris Karakas
Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 17.08.04 22:54:12: > > > What are you planning on importing? > > framemaker's mif files (we are aware of perlmif [and use it] and mif2lyx) > I know there is a product called "Framemaker+SGML" (for the tiny cost of around $3,000... :-D ). Maybe you c

Re: Documentation of the lyx file format

2004-08-18 Thread Georg Baum
h can be displayed in lyx. Of course. It is probably easier (and more flexible, too) to get a decent mif2latex and then use tex2lyx. I can assure you that some aspects of the lyx file format are difficult to get right (e. g. nesting environments). Georg

Re: Documentation of the lyx file format

2004-08-17 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Monday 16 August 2004 01:26 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: > Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Hello, > | > | I am just wondering, if there is a documentation of the .lyx file format. > | If there is no documenation, is there any part of the lyx code, which is &

Re: Documentation of the lyx file format

2004-08-17 Thread Jose' Matos
On Sunday 15 August 2004 21:04, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Hello, > > I am just wondering, if there is a documentation of the .lyx file format. There isn't but there interest in having one. If you willing to help with that your help is welcome. Don't be afraid to ask questions

Re: Documentation of the lyx file format

2004-08-15 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Hello, > | I am just wondering, if there is a documentation of the .lyx file format. If | there is no documenation, is there any part of the lyx code, which is helpful | to look at..or a good tutorial on how to write a lyx import filter would

Documentation of the lyx file format

2004-08-15 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hello, I am just wondering, if there is a documentation of the .lyx file format. If there is no documenation, is there any part of the lyx code, which is helpful to look at..or a good tutorial on how to write a lyx import filter would be an alternative. Any pointer is welcome. Thanks, Rainer

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 18:55, Angus Leeming wrote: ... Ok, I admire your coding style. And since this will be the best documented function for lyx2lxy I filled the details. ;-) The following patch should work. I tested it only with your example but it should work. -- José Abílio LyX an

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Andre> On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:45:55PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: | >> Glad to hear you've made it home safely. | | Andre> me too | | Me too, actualy :) aol -- Lgb

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Jose' Matos wrote: > On Wednesday 30 July 2003 16:52, Andre Poenitz wrote: > BTW André and Konni, you were excelent hosts. Congratulations, this > meeting worked so well due to your effort. A big thanks from me. oh well... me too! We had a fantastic time. A real pitty it was so short for us

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Angus Leeming
Jose' Matos wrote: > On Wednesday 30 July 2003 16:56, Angus Leeming wrote: >> José, I want to change the LyX file format too! In this case, changing >> from: >> >> \begin_inset LatexCommand >> \bibtex[bibtotoc,

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> On Wednesday 30 July 2003 3:33 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Angus> Of course, I want only to output 'style' and 'bibtotoc' entries Angus> if they are not empty and

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:45:55PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: >> Glad to hear you've made it home safely. Andre> me too Me too, actualy :) JMarc

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 16:52, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:45:55PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > > Glad to hear you've made it home safely. > > me too I was thinking to write some garbous writing, but since I don't have time as I am fixing bugs I just left my "me too".

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:57:32PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Wednesday 30 July 2003 3:52 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:45:55PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > > > Glad to hear you've made it home safely. > > > > me too > > > > Andre' > > > > PS: Remember to send me a

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 3:52 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:45:55PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > > Glad to hear you've made it home safely. > > me too > > Andre' > > PS: Remember to send me a smelly T-shirt for the collection. > I have already one from Asger and one from L

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:45:55PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > Glad to hear you've made it home safely. me too Andre' PS: Remember to send me a smelly T-shirt for the collection. I have already one from Asger and one from Lars...

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 3:33 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> Of course, I want only to output 'style' and 'bibtotoc' entries > Angus> if they are not empty and true repectively. > > Why? style is required by bibtex anyway (do

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Of course, I want only to output 'style' and 'bibtotoc' entries Angus> if they are not empty and true repectively. Why? style is required by bibtex anyway (do we provide a default?) and a bibtotoc set to false would not really bloa

Re: LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 16:56, Angus Leeming wrote: > José, I want to change the LyX file format too! In this case, changing > from: > > \begin_inset LatexCommand > \bibtex[bibtotoc,

LyX File format change --- HELP!!! (please)

2003-07-30 Thread Angus Leeming
José, I want to change the LyX file format too! In this case, changing from: \begin_inset LatexCommand \bibtex[bibtotoc,

Re: [Markus Grabner ] Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-04-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes John> wrote: >> It seems that John's patch does not work after all. Example file >> and error trace below, thanks to Markus Grabner. John> Hmm, weird, I didn't get this on m

Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-31 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 03:36:01PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Jos?" == Jos? Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jos?> On Friday 28 March 2003 17:54, John Levon wrote: > >> > What is the status of that? Is it supposed to be safe now? > >> > >> Jose said "it was probably OK" or s

Re: [Markus Grabner ] Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-31 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 03:34:40PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > It seems that John's patch does not work after all. Example file and > error trace below, thanks to Markus Grabner. Hmm, weird, I didn't get this on my test files. Maybe I just screwed up try this john Index: lyxconvert

Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: José> On Friday 28 March 2003 17:54, John Levon wrote: >> > What is the status of that? Is it supposed to be safe now? >> >> Jose said "it was probably OK" or something. It works for me ... >> but I don't know python José> The original cod

[Markus Grabner ] Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
It seems that John's patch does not work after all. Example file and error trace below, thanks to Markus Grabner. JMarc --- Begin Message --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>"John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > John> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:38:49AM +0100, Markus Grabne

Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-31 Thread José Matos
On Friday 28 March 2003 17:54, John Levon wrote: > > What is the status of that? Is it supposed to be safe now? > > Jose said "it was probably OK" or something. It works for me ... but I > don't know python The original code is from Dekel, John's fix looks reasonable to me and I would need to s

Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-28 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:44:41PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > John> JMarc, this is a dataloss, probably wanted for 1.3.2 > > What is the status of that? Is it supposed to be safe now? Jose said "it was probably OK" or something. It works for me ... but I don't know python john

Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:38:49AM +0100, Markus Grabner wrote: >> LyX 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 can't correctly import subfigure captions >> stored in the ancient lyx 2.15 file format. Subfigure captions are >> only read up to the first whitespac

Re: [PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:38:49AM +0100, Markus Grabner wrote: >> LyX 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 can't correctly import subfigure captions >> stored in the ancient lyx 2.15 file format. Subfigure captions are >> only read up to the first whitespac

[PATCH] lyx2lyx: subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-23 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:38:49AM +0100, Markus Grabner wrote: > LyX 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 can't correctly import subfigure captions > stored in the ancient lyx 2.15 file format. Subfigure captions are only > read up to the first whitespace character, the rest is ignored. Here's a fix. lyx2lyx p

subcaption in LyX file format 2.15

2003-03-23 Thread Markus Grabner
Hi! LyX 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 can't correctly import subfigure captions stored in the ancient lyx 2.15 file format. Subfigure captions are only read up to the first whitespace character, the rest is ignored. See attached files: lyx_215.lyx was created with an older version of LyX lyx_221.lyx was

Re: Lyx file format

2003-02-27 Thread Boris
44:57PM +0100, Boris wrote: > > I want the lyx file format specification. > > There is no such thing unfortunately. > > Andre' > > -- > Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, > will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson) >

Lyx file format

2003-02-27 Thread Boris
Hi I want the lyx file format specification. Does anyone know where can I find this complete specification? Thanks in advance and best regards. Boris

LyX file format

2003-02-14 Thread michael . schmitt
Hello, by accident, I noticed that both "\noun on" and "\shape smallcaps" are listed in one of my LyX files. What is the difference? I hope there is none... And then there are also places where the silly sequence "\emph off ...\emph default" occurs. Why isn't there just "on" and "off"? Well

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-30 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 05:55:24PM +0100, José Abílio Oliveira Matos wrote: > > Would I be harping on to repeat my request for a lyx-tests CVS module ? > > And that is? :-) A big collection of weird and wonderful files ;) > The ideal goal would be to able to recover from any file format t

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
to test on? > > Would I be harping on to repeat my request for a lyx-tests CVS module ? And that is? :-) > regards > john > > p.s. why are we doing this historical survey anyway ? Because I'm working on a python script to convert from previous versions of the lyx file

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-30 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 05:38:45PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > I found a couple of 2.13 and 2.14 files on my machine at home! > And a few more 2.10 files also. An average of 4 each. > > Enough history for you to test on? Would I be harping on to repeat my request for a lyx-tests CVS module ? r

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Tuesday 30 July 2002 08:38, Allan Rae wrote: > I found a couple of 2.13 and 2.14 files on my machine at home! > And a few more 2.10 files also. An average of 4 each. What are the versions associated to 2.13 and 2.14? > Enough history for you to test on? I think so. :-) > It'd be nice t

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-30 Thread Allan Rae
I found a couple of 2.13 and 2.14 files on my machine at home! And a few more 2.10 files also. An average of 4 each. Enough history for you to test on? It'd be nice to be able to read some of the older stuff with something other than `less` Allan. (ARRae)

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-27 Thread Allan Rae
I missed some with the previous search. I hadn't included files backup on the server (thinking that as they were on a mounted partition they had appeared in the locate). So I have the following additional files: 2.10 5 2.15 48 2.16 22 2.17 4 218 33 220 34 A small n

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-27 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, José Abílio Oliveira Matos wrote: [...] > Later I would to have some of those relics that all of you have in the > attic, all those ancient lyx files, to be able to verify the translation > process. After all we speaking of history. ;-) > > For no reason I would Allan to b

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-25 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Thursday 25 July 2002 16:45, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "José" == José Abílio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > José> Hi, let us decide that LyX started at 1.0.0 and all the previous > José> versions are prehistoric. :-) > > Are there still people using klyx? This

Re: The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "José" == José Abílio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: José> Hi, let us decide that LyX started at 1.0.0 and all the previous José> versions are prehistoric. :-) Are there still people using klyx? This is based on 0.12, I think, so it would count as prehistoric. Nevertheless, sin

The history of LyX file format.

2002-07-25 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
Hi, let us decide that LyX started at 1.0.0 and all the previous versions are prehistoric. :-) Using the User Guide an an historichal archive, I can say this: From 1.0.0 to until 1.1.4 the file format stood at 2.15, with some small changes in between, such as \tableofco

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-13 Thread Helge Hafting
Amir Karger wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 08:29:07AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > > > - LaTeX things LyX can't do: my favorite example is \section[foo]{bar}, > > > which is supposedly going to be supported someday. > > > > Even the old mathed read \sqrt[3]{x} so I guess it is possible

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-09 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > - If done properly, a C++ LaTeX parser would be a nice contribution to > > > That's the scary part of the implementation... I had a look at the TeXBook > and I still don't really know how it should work... In as far as reLyX is a

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-09 Thread John Weiss
DTD-like format. > | - In an XSL-like format. > > - C++ code. Ah, but C++ was designed for coding algorithms, not for defining DTDs. Besides which, if someone wants to ask if the part of the LyX file format that handles Insets should have a "width" parameter, they're not go

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-09 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 08:19:56AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > >The conversion is important. Perhaps the problem is that there aren't > > >many developers which know perl well. > > > > Um, I do. I program perl & python for a living. Is there a bug / > > feature request for reLyx anywhere?

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
> - If done properly, a C++ LaTeX parser would be a nice contribution to That's the scary part of the implementation... I had a look at the TeXBook and I still don't really know how it should work... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMA

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-09 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Andre Poenitz wrote: > I wonder whether the situation would improve once we had (a) a decent > document structure and (b) the reLyX code in C++. > > I think there are not many things in reLyX that cant' be done in C++ and > - that's the point - there are more developers that

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-09 Thread Thomas Steffen
Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> why should I do a lyx->latex->lyx cycle? >> >> You need it if you work on a document with a coauthor which doesn't have LyX. > > this is the only reason?? It is the only reason for doing the cycle I can see. Having said that, interoperability in gen

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Andre Poenitz
> be able to get rid of the reLyXmt{} in syntax.defaults. (Actually, you > shouldn't get rid of it, since people might want to put their own personal > commands in there that aren't supported by Mathed. If people wants support for something that is not yet in mathed they should tell me (in simple

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Andre Poenitz
> >The conversion is important. Perhaps the problem is that there aren't > >many developers which know perl well. > > Um, I do. I program perl & python for a living. Is there a bug / > feature request for reLyx anywhere? I could have a poke around and see > what I can do. You could try to fi

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Andre Poenitz
> What do you mean with semantical markup? Is it about the MathML content > tags? Yes. > If so I agree that presentational markups are maybe enough. Depends on intended usage... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread John Weiss
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 12:22:21AM +0200, ben wrote: > John Weiss a écrit : > > > Once we do design an XML-based LyX format, I suggest we document the > > format using XSL. There's no magic around XSL: it's just an XML > > document that uses a format designed for defining other XML formats. > >

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread John Weiss
is a (heavily commented) yacc-file. I'll take XSL over that, any day. If your DTD happens to be in the format described in the XML standard (or if you use XSL), then the LyX file format is instantly portable! We can even use an XML engine to convert the LyX format into LaTeX. (That's on

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread John Weiss
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:25:04PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: > On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 12:27:36PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > > > I'd really like to see an XML format for 1.3 ... as it would make > > things much easier to convert in the future ... > > Personally, I think it best to have lyx store

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Amir Karger
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 09:21:51AM +1200, Michael Koziarski wrote: > > >The conversion is important. > >Perhaps the problem is that there aren't many developers which know perl well. > > Um, I do. I program perl & python for a living. Is there a bug / feature > request for reLyx anywhere? I

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Michael Koziarski
>The conversion is important. >Perhaps the problem is that there aren't many developers which know perl well. Um, I do. I program perl & python for a living. Is there a bug / feature request for reLyx anywhere? I could have a poke around and see what I can do. Cheers Koz

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread ben
Andre Poenitz a écrit : > > > - formula were not XML-ised at all (It looked a bit harder and > > > somebody was reorganizing the code : is it over ?) > > > > About this, I know that Jose is in vacations, but does someone know if it is > > planned to have math formulas translated to MathML when

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Eran Tromer wrote: > > Herbert Voss wrote: > > > > Dekel Tsur wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 03:46:07PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > > > > | > | Since we are continuously adding new features to LyX, reLyX stays >behind, > > > > > | > | so a lyx->latex->lyx cycle can loose informati

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 06:17:00PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | The article.layout etc. files are for the environments/commands defined by the > | standard .cls files, and they should not be changed by the user. > > But I want my own defined floats while still using the article.layout. >

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 05:23:31PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | > | I guess that the question is whether we store information about the > | > | appearance of the document in the document itself, or in an external file > | > | ("layout file") ? > | > | The former is better if you want to w

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Eran Tromer
Herbert Voss wrote: > > Dekel Tsur wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 03:46:07PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > > > | > | Since we are continuously adding new features to LyX, reLyX stays behind, > > > > | > | so a lyx->latex->lyx cycle can loose information. > > > > > > as I said: from a use

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:48:19PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Why not ? > | > | I guess that the question is whether we store information about the > | appearance of the document in the document itself, or in an external file > | ("layout file")

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:43:42PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: > > no patches there... > > If only reLyX was written in python... Go ahead. Rewrite it in Algol if it will help. :-) Most of my time on LyX is spent on the Literate support, various bug fixes and the spec file right now. I will prob

Re: lyx file format changes

2001-08-08 Thread Andre Poenitz
> > You need it if you work on a document with a coauthor which doesn't have LyX. > > this is the only reason?? That's a pretty good reason. I won't get food if this breaks... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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