Re: dialog creation

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Richard Heck wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: Is there a particular reason we keep the dialogs around instead of re-build them each time they are shown? Do they keep important state? I seem to remember some conversations in which people did want some of the dialogs to retain state. E.g., if you

Re: mathed display broken?

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: Mathed does not display anymore those blue boxes for empty cells. Anybody feeling responsible? I think I do... where is the code that draws those blue boxes? Abdel.

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:57:56 +0200 Dov Feldstern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > This is an email I started writing a couple of months ago, regarding the > ignore-spellcheck discussion; but it is even more relevant now with > reference to the questions being raised about character styles a

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
John Levon wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 10:30:47PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: There's also the question how all of this gets written to a LyX file. Especially once we're doing XML, it'll be essential that everything be properly nested (unless each character is supposed to be written with al

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Richard Heck wrote: Dov Feldstern wrote: I agree very much with what JMarc has been saying about this issue: although I like very much the idea of character styles / logical markup, I don't think that insets are the right paradigm for implementing this. But there's a point JMarc made along the

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Dov Feldstern wrote: Why do I think that this question is related to "inset-ness"? Because of the collapsible nature of most insets: collapsing an inset is basically replacing the text in question with a black box of a known type. (Again, math stands out, since it is not collapsible. And we're

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 10:30:47PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > Dov Feldstern wrote: > >I agree very much with what JMarc has been saying about this issue: > >although I like very much the idea of character styles / logical > >markup, I don't think that insets are the right paradigm for > >imple

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 03:58:29AM +0200, Dov Feldstern wrote: > Bo Peng wrote: > >Let us put it in this way: people wants different emph styles that are > >commonly provided as bold and italics (or emph, or additionally > >\underline) by other word processors . Lyx has emph but not bold, and > >th

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-02 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 10:30:47PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > There's also the question how all of this gets written to a LyX file. > Especially once we're doing XML, it'll be essential that everything be > properly nested (unless each character is supposed to be written with > all of its ass

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Dov Feldstern wrote: I agree very much with what JMarc has been saying about this issue: although I like very much the idea of character styles / logical markup, I don't think that insets are the right paradigm for implementing this. But there's a point JMarc made along the way which isn't acco

Crash in Current SVN

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Open LyX. File>New. Quit. #0 0x00110402 in __kernel_vsyscall () at /usr/lib/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/debug/safe_iterator.h:194 #1 0x0068fba0 in raise () at /usr/lib/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/debug/safe_iterator.h:194 #2 0x00691

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Dov Feldstern
Bo Peng wrote: Let us put it in this way: people wants different emph styles that are commonly provided as bold and italics (or emph, or additionally \underline) by other word processors . Lyx has emph but not bold, and that is confusing and inconvenient (I am talking about toolbar/menu, not shor

*not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-02 Thread Dov Feldstern
Hi! This is an email I started writing a couple of months ago, regarding the ignore-spellcheck discussion; but it is even more relevant now with reference to the questions being raised about character styles as insets. I agree very much with what JMarc has been saying about this issue: altho

[PATCH] LyX crashes loading a munged layout

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Patch fixes bug. Very safe indeed. Jurgen? Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4232 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-10-03 02:55 --- bt #0 0x00110402 in __kernel_vsyscall () at /usr/lib/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.1.2/../../.

Re: [Cvslog] r20677 - /lyx-devel/trunk/lib/lyx2lyx/lyx_1_6.py

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Stupid mistake. Fixed at 20678. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: uwestoehr Date: Wed Oct 3 02:09:47 2007 New Revision: 20677 URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20677 Log: lyx_1_6.py: fix endless loop, but routine is still not working, see http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.

Re: changeset/20544

2007-10-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> Hello Richard, > > there is a bug in yout lyx2lyx routine you commited with r20544: > > - create a document, > - write something in there and save it > - menu Export -> LyX 1.4.x > > -> Python hangs in an endless loop complaining about a missing \end tag. I fixed the endless loop, but the routi

Re: [Cvslog] r20662 - /www-user/trunk/devel/i18n.inc

2007-10-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:33:18PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Author: lasgouttes > Date: Tue Oct 2 16:33:17 2007 > New Revision: 20662 > > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20662 > Log: > update translation stats > > Modified: > www-user/trunk/devel/i18n.inc Ugh! Unmangled email

Re: 1.5.X patch candidate list #5

2007-10-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:08:12AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20527 - Make sure that an empty > > po/POTFILES.in file exists at configure time, > > Probably yes. Enrico? It wouldn't hurt but does not make sense, because POTFILES.in is still distributed

Re: dialog creation

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Andre Poenitz wrote: Is there a particular reason we keep the dialogs around instead of re-build them each time they are shown? Do they keep important state? I seem to remember some conversations in which people did want some of the dialogs to retain state. E.g., if you want to apply the sam

Re: dialog creation

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Andre Poenitz wrote: Is there a particular reason we keep the dialogs around instead of re-build them each time they are shown? Do they keep important state? I seem to remember some conversations in which people did want some of the dialogs to retain state. E.g., if you want to apply the sam

Re: Segfault in Current LyX-1.5.svn

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:48:51PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:33:39PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: #0 0x0865ea13 in boost::signals::connection::reset (this=0x99eee14, new_con=0x9a116d0) at ../../../../boost/b

mathed display broken?

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
Mathed does not display anymore those blue boxes for empty cells. Anybody feeling responsible? Andre'

dialog creation

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
Is there a particular reason we keep the dialogs around instead of re-build them each time they are shown? Do they keep important state? Andre'

Re: [Cvslog] r20664 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src: Buffer.cpp Buffer.h fro...

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:06:19PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:15:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>Andre Poenitz wrote: > >>>On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:39:49PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Author: younes > Date: Tue Oct

Re: Segfault in Current LyX-1.5.svn

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:48:51PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:33:39PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > > > >>#0 0x0865ea13 in boost::signals::connection::reset (this=0x99eee14, > >>new_con=0x9a116d0) at > >>../../../../boost/boost/detail/sp_coun

Re: Segfault in Current LyX-1.5.svn

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:33:39PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: #0 0x0865ea13 in boost::signals::connection::reset (this=0x99eee14, new_con=0x9a116d0) at ../../../../boost/boost/detail/sp_counted_base_gcc_x86.hpp:50 When doing what? It was just segfaulting on st

Re: Segfault in Current LyX-1.5.svn

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:33:39PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > > #0 0x0865ea13 in boost::signals::connection::reset (this=0x99eee14, > new_con=0x9a116d0) at > ../../../../boost/boost/detail/sp_counted_base_gcc_x86.hpp:50 > #1 0x08674a1b in boost::signals::detail::slot_base::create_connection

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:22:10PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Like attached, including the recording/undo thing. > > Do we want this? Improves the dissolve discoverability. Why not. > And do we want math colours on the menu tree? > > About changing colours in math, that remains the same as

Re: [Cvslog] r20664 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src: Buffer.cpp Buffer.h fro...

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:15:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:39:49PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: younes Date: Tue Oct 2 16:39:48 2007 New Revision: 20664 URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20664 Log: F

Segfault in Current LyX-1.5.svn

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
#0 0x0865ea13 in boost::signals::connection::reset (this=0x99eee14, new_con=0x9a116d0) at ../../../../boost/boost/detail/sp_counted_base_gcc_x86.hpp:50 #1 0x08674a1b in boost::signals::detail::slot_base::create_connection (this=0xbf8aa51c) at slot.cpp:33 #2 0x083c5813 in boost::slotstd::all

pkglib vs noinst

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
Would that be ok? Jean-Marc? Andre' Index: src/frontends/qt4/Makefile.am === --- src/frontends/qt4/Makefile.am (revision 20665) +++ src/frontends/qt4/Makefile.am (working copy) @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ ##

Re: 1.5.X patch candidate list #5

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Ah, you are talking about section titles only. Then I agree, they shouldn't be changed. (I thought you were about to remove AlignPossible anywhere -- sorry for not reading more closely). No problem. Thanks for the explanation; your change makes sense indeed. However

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:06:36PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:34:35PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Well, the attached patch enables inset dissolving in mathed. (I'm sure > > I overlooked all kinds of things.) > > > > It would be trivial to put the insertion of th

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:35:41PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:51:12AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>And here is the beginning of a patch. If you could take it and finish > >>the remaining bits together with your patch, you'd make me v

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:34:35PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Well, the attached patch enables inset dissolving in mathed. (I'm sure > I overlooked all kinds of things.) > > It would be trivial to put the insertion of the most popular colour into > mathed on the menu tree. > > - Martin > >

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 2 oct. 07 à 17:01, Bo Peng a écrit : Because these are fundamentally different concepts (I keep repeating myself). I do not think \textit and \em are 'fundamentally different'. \textit/\em and CharStyle Emph are. The former are all 'plain latex command', the latter can be any latex command

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
But we don't even have a GUI for this (do we?) That would be a higher priority at this point. I think it was when using the character style GUI in mathed. This gives us an idea of what a GUI would do. I'm sure there is many things we could improve. Toggle-same-type would certainly be an ide

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 05:35:33PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:03:15PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:09:12 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Yes, I und

Re: 1.5.X patch candidate list #5

2007-10-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Richard Heck wrote: > Right. But you don't have to do this now. Simply not having an > AlignPossible is equivalent to allowing only the one thing. I see. > > So if it's broken, we should rather fix it than remove it. Note that I'm > > talking out of the blue, however. > >   > > There was a lot of

Re: 1.5.X patch candidate list #5

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Putting this: Align Left AlignPossible Left now has a different effect than it might once have had. Now, doing this allows left alignment to be set explicitly, over-riding whatever the LaTeX class would do. This is probably not the intenti

Re: [Cvslog] r20664 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src: Buffer.cpp Buffer.h fro...

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:15:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:39:49PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Author: younes > >>Date: Tue Oct 2 16:39:48 2007 > >>New Revision: 20664 > >> > >>URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20664 > >>Log

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:51:12AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: And here is the beginning of a patch. If you could take it and finish the remaining bits together with your patch, you'd make me very happy. Abdel. Index: Buffer.cpp

Re: [Cvslog] r20664 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src: Buffer.cpp Buffer.h fro...

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:39:49PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: younes Date: Tue Oct 2 16:39:48 2007 New Revision: 20664 URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20664 Log: Fix some issues with buffer closing. * Switch WorkAreaManager to std::list instead of vecto

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:51:12AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: And here is the beginning of a patch. If you could take it and finish the remaining bits together with your patch, you'd make me very happy. Abdel. Index: Buffer.cpp

Re: 1.5.X patch candidate list #5

2007-10-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Richard Heck wrote: > Putting this: >     Align Left >     AlignPossible Left > now has a different effect than it might once have had. Now, doing this > allows left alignment to be set explicitly, over-riding whatever the > LaTeX class would do. This is probably not the intention...and it > doesn'

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Bo Peng wrote: > Why can not you think of bold as another emph style?? Italic and bold > are methods to emphasize. Agreed. Also small caps is a method to emphasize. Color as well, and text size, and font family. And which method is chosen is actually defined in such macros as \emph or \noun. >

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:51:12AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > And here is the beginning of a patch. If you could take it and finish > the remaining bits together with your patch, you'd make me very happy. > > Abdel. > > Index: Buffer.cpp >

Re: 1.5.X patch candidate list #5

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Richard Heck wrote: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20437 - Remove redundant AlignPossible? lines http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20438 - Disallow setting of alignment in protected environments, where it is broken. Maybe. Jurgen should have a look.

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Bo Peng
> I see your point. The problem is that noun and emph are not yet transformed to > the char styles ui. But they will (I think there's already a noun charstyle > in 1.5, but it's hidden somewhere). > Putting a bold button there would just raise the confusion. Why can not you think of bold as anoth

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:09:33AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:11:47AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>Andre Poenitz wrote: > >>>The attached patch replaces the signal/slot connections between Buffer > >>>and BufferView to LyXView by ordi

Re: [Cvslog] r20664 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src: Buffer.cpp Buffer.h fro...

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:39:49PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Author: younes > Date: Tue Oct 2 16:39:48 2007 > New Revision: 20664 > > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20664 > Log: > Fix some issues with buffer closing. > * Switch WorkAreaManager to std::list instead of vector. Urm,

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Richard Heck
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: 2. it is easier to toggle boldface. A simple operation (usually C-B) can switch bold face on and off even for a sentense with mixed normal and bold text. It is much more difficult to work with inset charstyle. The 'backspace at the beginning of the inset' trick looks

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Bo Peng wrote: > Their usages, appearance, are vastly different. It would be weird to > put \strong next to \emph. If you ever plan to put a \stong to the > toolbar, you would better put real char styles there. I see your point. The problem is that noun and emph are not yet transformed to the cha

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Bo Peng
> If you ever plan to put a \stong to the > toolbar, you would better put real char styles there. I meant that you would better put charstyles for other stuff such as Emph there. Bo

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:03:15PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:09:12 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Yes, I understand that. Two different things. > > > > I know you do. > > > > > And I

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Bo Peng
> No. I have explained already that \emph (as well as \em) does _not_ simply > make the text italic. I have showed you an easy example where this is not > true, and I could show you many more. I know that (I can read). My point is that they are simple latex commands (macro or switch, I do not car

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Bo Peng wrote: > > Because these are fundamentally different concepts (I keep repeating > > myself). > > I do not think \textit and \em are 'fundamentally different'. > \textit/\em and CharStyle Emph are. The former are all 'plain latex > command', the latter can be any latex command. Why do you

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:09:12 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Yes, I understand that. Two different things. > > I know you do. > > > And I would maintain that this is a _perceived_ non-readiness mostly -- to > > people that

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Bo Peng
> Because these are fundamentally different concepts (I keep repeating myself). I do not think \textit and \em are 'fundamentally different'. \textit/\em and CharStyle Emph are. The former are all 'plain latex command', the latter can be any latex command. This is obviously different from what JMa

Re: [Cvslog] r20660 - in /lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/po: Makefile...

2007-10-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > With the fixes I just committed, the only problem is that one has to > invoke it like >   LC_ALL=C make i18n.php > when the locale is not english. Jose promised to fix it. Note that > only a handful of persons (you, me, michael, uwe?) are impacted. OK, then let's keep

Re: [Cvslog] r20660 - in /lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/po: Makefile...

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Saw that in Juergen's last commit. > > Thanks. > >> The postat.py commit is a mistake, but the new python version is usable, >> and José promised to fix it (José?) >> >> Juergen, I can revert this part if you want (

Re: [Cvslog] r20660 - in /lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/po: Makefile...

2007-10-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Saw that in Juergen's last commit. Thanks. > The postat.py commit is a mistake, but the new python version is usable, > and José promised to fix it (José?) > > Juergen, I can revert this part if you want (it is only a maintainer tool). What was the problem again

Re: [Cvslog] r20660 - in /lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/po: Makefile...

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Author: lasgouttes > Date: Tue Oct 2 16:19:31 2007 > New Revision: 20660 > > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20660 > Log: > fix end of lines on the two chinese translations Saw that in Juergen's last commit. The postat.py commit is a mistake, but the new python

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, I understand that. Two different things. I know you do. > And I would maintain that this is a _perceived_ non-readiness mostly -- to > people that are 'indoctrinated' by the font attribute way of doing things. The example of colors in mathed is

Re: [Cvslog] r20595 - /lyx-devel/trunk/src/insets/InsetBox.cpp

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:34:27 +0200 Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:46:14 +0200 > > Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I understand that this behaviour might be confusing, but I'm innocent > >> here. This has been introduced when

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:27:05 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I agree with that. Just let people choose what they want. Font > > attribute should not become insets and people should not be forced to > > use charstyle if th

Re: [Cvslog] r20653 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4: GuiMenuba...

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: there are other cases like that non involving external issues: try the empth or noun toggle button to see what I mean. I am not sure what you mean, but the discussion is moot now anyway. Forget about it, I just reali

Re: [Cvslog] r20653 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4: GuiMenuba...

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> And I am fed up that people think I do not try to understand what they >> mean just because I disagree with them. > > Problem is that when you take an ironical tone, one cannot guess what > you really mean. You should have come to Bromarv :) > Tha

Re: [Cvslog] r20653 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4: GuiMenuba...

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Do you really think this is playing? I am fad up that you never try to understand that what we are doing is *good* for LyX. Code is meant to change, cleanup is always good whatever you think. I play the best I can: I d

Re: [Cvslog] r20595 - /lyx-devel/trunk/src/insets/InsetBox.cpp

2007-10-02 Thread Georg Baum
Martin Vermeer wrote: > On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:46:14 +0200 > Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I understand that this behaviour might be confusing, but I'm innocent >> here. This has been introduced when the box dialog was introduced with >> LyX 1.4.0. I don't know who to blame. IMO you sh

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree with that. Just let people choose what they want. Font > attribute should not become insets and people should not be forced to > use charstyle if they really want to use Font attribute. But there are two different things: * semantic vs expli

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> This is a very good point, but unrelated to the bold issue. The people >> who push for font as an inset should put their code where their mouth is >> and make the interface usable (José?). For example we could have a >> charstyle-toggle lfun that is li

Re: [Cvslog] r20653 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4: GuiMenuba...

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Abdel, please make the effort of keeping things working when you do >> changes. grep would have told you what to do. > > In this case you should blame Andre I think. Sorry. > Do you really think this is playing? I am fad up that you never try to

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Bo Peng wrote: There is a way to introduce a bold button cleanly. But it includes removing emph and noun and replacing it with textit and textsc. I do not see why textit, em and charstyle Emph can not co-exist, and I have no objection to use em in

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Martin Vermeer wrote: On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:43:09 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: \textbf is simpler than \strong because 1. it is simply \textbf, and \strong can be anything, and to understand what is \strong, someone needs to und

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:43:09 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > \textbf is simpler than \strong because > > > > 1. it is simply \textbf, and \strong can be anything, and to > > understand what is \strong, someone needs to understand

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:11:47AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: The attached patch replaces the signal/slot connections between Buffer and BufferView to LyXView by ordinary delegates. There has alw

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:11:47AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: The attached patch replaces the signal/slot connections between Buffer and BufferView to LyXView by ordinar

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > For example we could have a > charstyle-toggle lfun that is like charstyle-insert except that, when > one tries to insert a charstyle in itself, it dissolves instead. I am > not sure it will be enough to make the thing work well, but it is a > major problem with the fo

Re: [Cvslog] r20653 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4: GuiMenuba...

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Author: lasgouttes Date: Tue Oct 2 09:51:25 2007 New Revision: 20653 URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20653 Log: fix compilation on mac Abdel, please make the effort of keeping things working when you do changes. grep would have to

Re: [Cvslog] r20653 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4: GuiMenuba...

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Author: lasgouttes > Date: Tue Oct 2 09:51:25 2007 > New Revision: 20653 > > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20653 > Log: > fix compilation on mac Abdel, please make the effort of keeping things working when you do changes. grep would have told you what to do.

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:11:47AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: The attached patch replaces the signal/slot connections between Buffer and BufferView to LyXView by ordinary delegates. There has alw

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > \textbf is simpler than \strong because > > 1. it is simply \textbf, and \strong can be anything, and to > understand what is \strong, someone needs to understand what is > charstyle, and where to look for its definition, and figure out, in > the end, that i

Re: Slowness Progress

2007-10-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Dov Feldstern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I strongly recommend > http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch05s02.html (the book in > general, this chapter specifically is relevant to this discussion) Very interesting indeed. JMarc

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:11:47AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: The attached patch replaces the signal/slot connections between Buffer and BufferView to LyXView by ordinary delegates. There has always been only (at most) a

Re: signal/slot -> delegates

2007-10-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 08:11:47AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: The attached patch replaces the signal/slot connections between Buffer and BufferView to LyXView by ordinary delegates. There has always been only (at most) a single connection of each