Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 06:14:37PM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: > >We need someone who says "no!" or "stop that!". > > I did something like this but I am not at a position to do that. I had > hoped that Michael can show some management skills but he chose to be > silent. As far as I am concerned, there i

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:02:29PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> We are supposed to manage a project, not just write code. > Bo> For this particular problem, I have declared WONT FIX for qt < > Bo> 4.2.2. There are a lot more severer

Re: Small patch to keep the paranoid happy

2007-02-04 Thread Bo Peng
On 2/5/07, Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think that INSTALL.Win32 should state that Microsoft is happy to have msvcp80.dll and msvcr80.dll distributed with the LyX installer. See attached, which I'd recommend be committed. Looks reasonable. Applied. Bo

the funky scrollbar menu lies

2007-02-04 Thread Angus Leeming
I really like the little menu that appears when I right-click on the scrollbar: Scroll here --- Top Bottom --- Page up Page down --- Scroll up Scroll down Unfortunately, all but the Top and Bottom entries currently lie about what they do. Unless one page in your world is s

Small patch to keep the paranoid happy

2007-02-04 Thread Angus Leeming
I think that INSTALL.Win32 should state that Microsoft is happy to have msvcp80.dll and msvcr80.dll distributed with the LyX installer. See attached, which I'd recommend be committed. -- AngusIndex: INSTALL.Win32 === --- INSTALL.Win3

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Angus Leeming
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Why this? The installer we currently have works also under Vista. We have > a user who tested this: > http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg53432.html > (The problem he described there was only a bug from me (I delivered a > wrong LyX.py version).) > > I also te

Missing textclass problem while installing LyX under Windows hopefully fixed

2007-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Hello LyXers, in the last weeks many users had the problem that after installing LyX on Windows, LyX couldn't be started, only the error message "Missing textclass.lst" is displayed. There was a bug in MIKTeX so that LyX's configuration script wasn't correctly finished when no internet connec

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> Have you had the chance of having a look at the requirements for > an installer on Windows Vista? > At least for Vista certification this means .msi --- > Now Andre mentioned that Vista certification would require an .msi-installer. Although I'm not > sure we'd ever try for that, it probably

Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-04 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:36:11PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Like where? I would be interested. If I would be successful in > attracting the next LyX meeting (summer 2007?) to Finland, I intend to > apply locally for some support. There are literally hundreds of funds in > Finland, but most o

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Bo Peng
We need someone who says "no!" or "stop that!". I did something like this but I am not at a position to do that. I had hoped that Michael can show some management skills but he chose to be silent. As far as I am concerned, there is no good or bad decision because any decision is better than none

Re: [PATCH] immediatly display saved filename in tab

2007-02-04 Thread Angus Leeming
Bernhard Roider wrote: > i agree to license my contributions to LyX under the GPL version 2 or > later. It's taken a little while, but your name is now up in lights at http://www.lyx.org/about/credits.php and http://www.lyx.org/about/blanket-permission.php Regards, Angus

Re: Toolbar management problem

2007-02-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: And could you do that for LyX? That would be very nice... Somewhat related (as we're already off-topic), it'd probably be a good idea testing the Windows installers in virtual machines. Then it'd be relatively easy to start from the same situation

Re: Suggestions to the official windows installer

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Have you had the chance of having a look at the requirements Andre> for an installer on Windows Vista? Andre> At least for Vista certification this means .msi (or some Andre> special kind of hit-and-run kind of installer that's not

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "christian" == christian ridderstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: christian> I don't take it personally, nor think it's personal from christian> your side. In fact, I respect your position although I christian> don't completely agree with you. Actually, I'm not sure christian> there is a "sid

Re: Toolbar management problem

2007-02-04 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 09:42:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> We are currently releasing a new version of my day job's Andre> bread-and-butter product for four versions of Windows and Andre> fifteen(!) vari

Re: Toolbar management problem

2007-02-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Andre Poenitz wrote: Took me about two weeks full-time to set up all the virtual machines (i.e. install OS, install required development packages, work around installation quirks etc.) Now a full recompile of our stuff is a bit more than an hour per platform, and about doub

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: We are supposed to manage a project, not just write code. Bo> For this particular problem, I have declared WONT FIX for qt < Bo> 4.2.2. There are a lot more severer bugs there and it would be a Bo> waste of time to work o

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Georg Baum wrote: The patch (untested so far) is attached. The only problems I can imagine are some special use cases: E.g. somebody processes the exported .tex file with some other tools, or somebody exports to "latex (plain)", but wants to process the file with pdflatex.

Re: Suggestions to the official windows installer

2007-02-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Andre Poenitz wrote: Have you had the chance of having a look at the requirements for an installer on Windows Vista? No, in fact I haven't even thought about it. At least for Vista certification this means .msi (or some special kind of hit-and-run kind of installer that's

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Bo Peng wrote: I am glad that you mention 'manage a project'. I am tired of being the bad guy in the windows installer issue and I just want to remind you guys that we have failed to resolve the situation due to exactly lack of management of this project. I don't take it

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: (Lars, come back! We love you!). We need someone who says "no!" or "stop that!". I agree - but if Lars needs a break, it's better he gets a good one than comes back to soon. I don't remember who said this, but the development should be fun - n

Re: [PATCH] immediatly display saved filename in tab

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Peter" == Peter Kümmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Since it is not my code, I'll let you check it and commit. Peter> No problem, please check in! I'll do that. JMarc

Re: [PATCH] immediatly display saved filename in tab

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Since it is not my code, I'll let you check it and commit. Abdelrazak> IMHO, since you touched it, this also becomes your code. Abdelrazak> Peter is a clever guy and will recognize that you did the Abdelrazak> right thing, obv

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> We are supposed to manage a project, not just write code. Bo> For this particular problem, I have declared WONT FIX for qt < Bo> 4.2.2. There are a lot more severer bugs there and it would be a Bo> waste of time to work on a fixed bug. People wh

Re: Toolbar management problem

2007-02-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 09:42:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andre> We are currently releasing a new version of my day job's > Andre> bread-and-butter product for four versions of Windows and > Andre> fifteen(!) variations of L

Re: [Cvslog] r17010 - /lyx-devel/trunk/src/text3.C

2007-02-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:05:18PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Why would a user put a label in the middle of the section title? LyX is > about automatic formatting. It is about doing _the_ _right_ _thing_. > There is no logic to put the label in the middle of the text for a section. Could

Re: Suggestions to the official windows installer

2007-02-04 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:22:21AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > >On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:53:14AM +1800, Bo Peng wrote: > >>2. I personally prefer a lyx group with uninstall icon. The windows > >>uninstall page takes ages to populate. > > > >This

Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> BTW under "Mature, well-established codebase": Martin> "The first lines of source code were added to LyX in 1999" Martin> Huh. I started using 0.7.10 for production work in 1997. Trust Martin> me ;-) This is when we began to u

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Bo Peng
We are supposed to manage a project, not just write code. For this particular problem, I have declared WONT FIX for qt < 4.2.2. There are a lot more severer bugs there and it would be a waste of time to work on a fixed bug. People who believe saveState/restoreState can magically solve all proble

Caption: Inset or not Inset?

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Gerz
Hello, Jean-Marc recently raised the question whether an inset is really the proper solution for captions. I didn't come to a final conclusion on my own but I think we should come to an agreement and stick with it. I think that Jean-Marc's concern regarding the customization of captions is a

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread Michael Gerz
Uwe Stöhr schrieb: Michael Gerz schrieb: A little warning to all pdflatex users (at least to those using the latest MikTeX 2.5): pdflatex prefers PNG files over PDF files I use MiKTeX 2.5 since months now and only use PDF-images for vector graphics and it works: I can zoom into th

Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:49:43AM +, John Levon wrote: > On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:26:56PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > Personally I would be interested to do some paid work for LyX. I am > > running out of contract in 6 month... maybe I'll do a reconversion in > > the software en

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:41:58PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Georg> Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2007 04:44 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > >> No, it doesn't work for me even when I do that. Then I don't know > >> what would be the rat

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Something like that. The problem is not that the installation Georg> is too difficult, the problem is that I want to keep the number Georg> of packages I need to compile from source as minimal as Georg> possible. I already have a lot o

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> It's a PITA to begin with, but we all end up graduating as Angus> competent engineers. Even mathematicians like JMarc who'd hate Angus> to be lumbered with such a sobriquet. Hey! I _am_ an engineer! Besides, even mathematicians c

Re: Embedded Objects

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Uwe> This seems to be a smart solution. I'll have a closer look and Uwe> implement this. Thanks for the hint, I wasn't aware that there is Uwe> a \setboolean command. It can be done as easily without package % used for tables with dashed lines

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> I finally believe that we always should output the extension. Georg> See also http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2764. Georg> The original purpose of leaving out the extension (making the Georg> file work with both pdflatex and l

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2007 04:44 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: >> No, it doesn't work for me even when I do that. Then I don't know >> what would be the rationale for it working when using >> convertDefault.py instead of a PDF->PNG conve

Re: About the default paragraph style in floats...

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Abdelrazak> If it is a LateX default them I don't understand the Abdelrazak> rational of having the caption centred b

Re: [PATCH] inset caption cleanup

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> OK, we'll see. Since it is in now there is little ponit arguing >> anyway. Abdelrazak> Do you honnestly think that the old caption layout was Abdelrazak> better? The old system was customizable. Where do I specify the font u

Re: Embedded Objects

2007-02-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> I disagree with the > recommendation to use pdf images for pdf output, because other formats > would slow down the workflow. When I want to compile a document with e.g. 100 GIF-images to PDF it takes about 10 minutes until they are converted and I see the PDF result. I did not only recommend t

Re: [Cvslog] r17010 - /lyx-devel/trunk/src/text3.C

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Besides, could you give me one single reason as to why it Abdelrazak> is _so_ important to place the label inside the section as Abdelrazak> opposed to rightly after. The end-result will be 100% the Abdelrazak> same be

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Bo Peng
No, I think like André here: Not using basic qt 4.0 functionality means that 4.2.2 is required. I know why you do that, but I don't agree with the reasons. I do not understand what is the big fuss here. The problem is clearly caused by a qt bug that has been fixed in qt 4.2.2. It is not a big de

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2007 15:02 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I don't have any objections, but I am worried it is a big change, and that > it'll bugs? So I think it deserves some attention/discussion first, or am > I wrong? The patch (untested so far) is attached. The only problems I can ima

Re: Embedded Objects

2007-02-04 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2007 14:39 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > > I disagree with the > > recommendation to use pdf images for pdf output, because other formats > > would slow down the workflow. > > When I want to compile a document with e.g. 100 GIF-images to PDF it takes about 10 minutes until > the

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Georg Baum wrote: I finally believe that we always should output the extension. See also http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2764. The original purpose of leaving out the extension (making the file work with both pdflatex and latex) is not valid anymore, since we have a

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:24:56AM +0100, Georg Baum wrote: > Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2007 04:44 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > > > No, it doesn't work for me even when I do that. Then I don't know > > what would be the rationale for it working when using convertDefault.py > > instead of a PDF->PNG

Re: minimum python version

2007-02-04 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:26:31AM +0100, Georg Baum wrote: > Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 18:29 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > > > I think that 2.3 already is a requirement, as stated in the README file. > > Oops, you are right. I remembered that we decided 2.2, but was wrong > obviously. That w

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 16:04 schrieb Bo Peng: > > It really frustrates me that there is so little will to support anything > > but the latest and greatest programs and libraries. > > Think in this way: this bug (single line of toolbars at non-TOP dock) > can not be fixed for qt <= 4.2.1 and

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread Georg Baum
Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2007 04:44 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > No, it doesn't work for me even when I do that. Then I don't know > what would be the rationale for it working when using convertDefault.py > instead of a PDF->PNG converter using the exact same command... Very strange. Does the conve

Re: Embedded Objects

2007-02-04 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 14:11 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > > I did not read it, but noticed an error by chance in section 1.3 image > > formats: pdf can embed natively png, jpg and pdf (and LyX makes use of > > that), you write that it only can embed pdf. I wanted to create a patch > > instead of

Re: Fixed: toolbar management problem - another problem

2007-02-04 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 20:11 schrieb Peter Kümmel: > Do you think you-as a main developer of lyx- will > have problems to build Qt 4.x by your own? No. > (I assume it's a question of your principles > because even I have mangaged to compile Qt4.2 > on linux, wasn't it ./configure & make? :)

Re: minimum python version

2007-02-04 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 18:29 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > I think that 2.3 already is a requirement, as stated in the README file. Oops, you are right. I remembered that we decided 2.2, but was wrong obviously. Georg

Re: [Bug 2418] LyX cannot correctly determine PDF image size

2007-02-04 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 15:35 schrieb Michael Gerz: > A little warning to all pdflatex users (at least to those using the > latest MikTeX 2.5): > > pdflatex prefers PNG files over PDF files > > Since LyX outputs graphics file names without file extension _and_ > generates PNG fil