>>>>> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> We are supposed to manage a project, not just write code. Bo> For this particular problem, I have declared WONT FIX for qt < Bo> 4.2.2. There are a lot more severer bugs there and it would be a Bo> waste of time to work on a fixed bug. People who believe Bo> saveState/restoreState can magically solve all problems are Bo> welcome to do so. It is not necessarily this particular problem that worries me. I was worried to see how little concerned some of us can be about these problems. Bo> I am glad that you mention 'manage a project'. I am tired of being Bo> the bad guy in the windows installer issue and I just want to Bo> remind you guys that we have failed to resolve the situation due Bo> to exactly lack of management of this project. Results? Uwe Bo> continues to work on his installer, Joost is unwilling to work on Bo> the official installer because of this, the official installer Bo> will die and we will most likely adopt Uwe's installer despite the Bo> fact that this is again 'a installer that is understood by one'. My position on this is that we will never resolve this problem if we do not have a group of 2 or 3 people who work together on a common code base. Since I am not using windows myself, I am not in position to do more than ask to work as a team. Experience shows that this is wishful thinking, but I am still waiting for a mythical third person to come and work towards reconciliation between the parties. [Beware, personal opinion below] More generally, our problem is that we do not have a maintainer right now. Lars was very good for this job, especially because he can be rude when needed. Unfortunately, his presence is virtual currently and even his recent come-back was not really convincing (Lars, come back! We love you!). We need someone who says "no!" or "stop that!". I am not very good at this game myself, and this is definitely not something that I enjoy doing. I think something weird happened to the team. We were in real need of new blood, because many of us did not have enough time. The new blood came, but the new developers have been too active and too numerous (which was not difficult actually) to be incorporated smoothly. There is a real need to have everybody join at some meeting and find a better common ground than the one we have currently. I know that some of us are fond of competition, but if the result is that either the oldtimers or the newtimers lose interest, I am not sure LyX will be able to continue in an useful form. I guess all projects have this kind of problems, but it is not very enjoyable. Some probably find it weird that I have such a dark view of the situation at the time where we are going to unleash a very good release. I find that weird too. It is probably all the tension leaving scars on me. JMarc