On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:15:47PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> Yeah, but this bug, as with others, is not going to stop 1.3.0 release, is
> it?
No. I don't think anybody is currently able to track it down and fix it.
Andre'
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Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> Hm... On those days I really _use_ LyX I have one crash or so on average,
> almost always in 'undo'. But so far no single line has been lost [lucky
> me...]
Yeah, but this bug, as with others, is not going to stop 1.3.0 release, is it?
Rob.
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:02:27PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> Another thing that keeps popping up in my humble mind: is the present
> 1.3.0 as it is now, that much worse than the present 1.2.x release; in
> stability terms, that is.
>
> I don't think so, which means you could simply release what
Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:35:23PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
>
>>Would it be really such a bad idea to branch off 1.4.0 immediately at the
>>moment 1.3.0 goes into feature freeze?
>
>
> Probably a bad idea as people like me would have even less incentive to
> contribute to
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:27:57PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> That's all I wanted to say.
Ok. You are right of course ;-)
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On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:35:23PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> Would it be really such a bad idea to branch off 1.4.0 immediately at the
> moment 1.3.0 goes into feature freeze?
Probably a bad idea as people like me would have even less incentive to
contribute to the stabilization of the frozen br
Andre Poenitz wrote:
> I have no strong opinion or even an idea on how to solve that, I just
> want to say that there _is_ a problem. A serious one to be precise.
Would it be really such a bad idea to branch off 1.4.0 immediately at the
moment 1.3.0 goes into feature freeze?
Patches, sent to the
Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:33:50AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
>
>>That implies you have a LyX document of 1000 pages, without splitting it
>>up!?
>
>
> Why not. That's not WinWord after all.
Yes I agree, I'm not telling you what's the best way of using LyX. LyX is
(or sho
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:33:50AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> That implies you have a LyX document of 1000 pages, without splitting it
> up!?
Why not. That's not WinWord after all.
> You should use instead the \include{} or \input{} commands to separate parts
> of the doc into different files!
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>>"Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> Lars> I have the exact same change in my tree.
>
> Lars> Just apply it.
>
> Done. The other changes sggested by rob seem sound, but I'll let you
> have a look.
My last shot to improve autogen.
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
> Just that the original thread was about whether we should hardcode the
> use of dvips.
What's against? What's in favour? Are there alternatives?
Hardcode dvips would imply a strict dependency of LyX on dvips.
It also would mean we can remove the tab in the prefere
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 07:17:38AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > For LTR text, bidi_level = 0
> > For RTL text, bidi_level = 1
> > For LTR text inside RTL text, bidi_level = 2
>
> And RTL in LTR?
bidi_level = 1
> Is this for display only?
Yes
> And what does bidi_start mean?
The position
Due to bugs in Acrobat Reader, it is preferable to use the
-dCompatibilityLevel=1.3 flag of ps2pdf (or use ps2pdf13).
This requires the Acrobat >= 4 to read the file, but this is
a reasonable requirement.
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On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:51:49AM +0930, Darren Freeman wrote:
> For now, I need power-user status... That's gotta be worth some
> geek-credits?
As power users usually have to fix bugs themselves I guess yes ;-)
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On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 03:51:49AM +0930, Darren Freeman wrote:
> I'm a firm believer that engineers don't *have* to write crappy GUIs, they
> just normally do =) So I plan to stand out and shout: "I'm an engineer! Yet
> my GUI doesn't make you want to puke!!!"
You sound like my kind of develo
Just seen:
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x403ba128 in main_arena () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt
#0 0x403ba128 in main_arena () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x0817ec7a in Paragraph::isRightToLeftPar (this=0x8ba9550,
bparams=@0x8782ef0) at ../../lyx-devel/src/paragraph.C
At 10:40 PM 10/10/2002, you wrote:
>It's simple. We should make it attractive to work on this:
>
> - Express that this project is a high-prestige area. Working on this
>project gives you ultra-geek-credit
I'm in!! Where can I sign up for my geek credits?
But seriously though, when my semest
On Thursday 10 October 2002 6:32 pm, Roland Krause wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I havent really followed this list and this discussion but
> from time to time I feel compelled to write. Today I gave in:
Hello, Roland.
Just to clear up any confusion, the Qt port is genuine Qt and is
almost finished than
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 07:51:03PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> I think there was no "official" call. I just had been decided that the Qt
> port was necessary for a 1.3 release and as nothing else is being worked
> on there was some expectation that the Qt work gets done somehow. But it
> does
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 06:43:05PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> Qt frontend uses signal/slots from Qt. It communicates with the lyx core
> via boost's signal/slots mechanism, which is far nicer.
Urgs... shame on me.
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:32:42AM -0700, Roland Krause wrote:
> I remember from a year ago, that your Qt port wasnt really using Qt's
> signal and slot but instead your own implementation, is that still
> true?
We are using boost's signals nowaday which happen to work for both
frontends.
> Unfo
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:32:42AM -0700, Roland Krause wrote:
> I remember from a year ago, that your Qt port wasnt really using Qt's
> signal and slot but instead your own implementation, is that still
> true?
Qt frontend uses signal/slots from Qt. It communicates with the lyx core
via boost's
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 07:51:56PM +0300, Dag Nygren wrote:
>
> Complaining about fonts beeing ugly in Acroread I got
> the advice to RTFM ;-).
>
> Did that and tried the 2 different approaches:
> 1. Setting up my .dvipsrc and including ae and aecompl generated
> nice looking PDF:s with the sp
Hallo,
I havent really followed this list and this discussion but from time to
time I feel compelled to write. Today I gave in:
I remember from a year ago, that your Qt port wasnt really using Qt's
signal and slot but instead your own implementation, is that still
true?
I take it that what you
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 07:11:08PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> > xalignat und xxalignat are de facto obsolete and
> > and can be replaced by flalign.
>
> Then remove the xalignat/xxalignat from the menus.
Ok. Why not.
Andre'
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On Thursday 10 October 2002 17:51, Dag Nygren wrote:
> the advice to RTFM ;-).
>
> Did that and tried the 2 different approaches:
> 1. Setting up my .dvipsrc and including ae and aecompl generated
> nice looking PDF:s with the special chars ie. a-with-two-dots
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 06:41:37PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> Straightforward implementation of a "new feature" from an anonymous(?)
> source:
>
> xalignat und xxalignat are de facto obsolete and
> and can be replaced by flalign.
Then remove the xalignat/xxalignat from the menus.
Complaining about fonts beeing ugly in Acroread I got
the advice to RTFM ;-).
Did that and tried the 2 different approaches:
1. Setting up my .dvipsrc and including ae and aecompl generated
nice looking PDF:s with the special chars ie. a-with-two-dots replaced
with a. -> No go
2. Using pslat
Straightforward implementation of a "new feature" from an anonymous(?)
source:
xalignat und xxalignat are de facto obsolete and
and can be replaced by flalign.
-> ftp://ftp.ams.org/pub/tex/doc/amsmath/amsldoc.pdf
This cannot break anything.
Ok to apply?
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Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:54:38AM +0930, Darren Freeman wrote:
>> Just thought you'd like to know that the default config for Mandrake 9.0
>> is that a C-tab switches desktop for you. So the default binding for
>> guarded tab is useless on my system.
>>
>> Dunno if it's a
Somewhat better testet. Same patch. Ok to apply?
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:50:40PM +0300, Dag Nygren wrote:
> Just made some simple tests here and found that it is
> setting the font on the document layout page to helvet that causes
> the SansSerif characters to disappear from the acroread view !!
>
> Bug or just me mishandling something ?
Ac
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:39:36PM +0300, Dag Nygren wrote:
> I tried export PDF and export PS, then ps2pdf.
> The output seems identical.
The file should be identical.
Try exporting to PS and then using ps2pdf13.
Also, does it help to export to dvi, run dvips -G0 file.dvi -o file.ps,
and then ps
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:15:37PM +0300, Dag Nygren wrote:
> >
> > I have a problem with lyx somehow generating
> > documents where all the scndinavian characters are
> > replaced with a space when exported as PDF
> > and viewed with acroread.
> > Viewing with ghostview do show the chars, but
On 10 Oct 2002 16:27:01 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Philippe" == Charpentier Philippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>
> Philippe> For example the macros maketitle and the sections are quite
> Philippe> different in amsart.sty and amsbook.sty; I think that it
>
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:28:46AM -0400, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:
> > Which really looks like something which is not implemented.
>
> Aren't those those the functions I wrote for selecting the "current"
> word for the default insert-index? It seems to me that you replaced
> them a couple o
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 04:38:04PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> But there are things like the undo crashs that have been in for ages
> without any improvment on the horizon.
But we should concern ourselves with regressions only for 1.3
john
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> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:15:37PM +0300, Dag Nygren wrote:
> >
> > I have a problem with lyx somehow generating
> > documents where all the scndinavian characters are
> > replaced with a space when exported as PDF
> > and viewed with acroread.
> > Viewing with ghostview do show the chars, but
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 04:11:35PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> But I am not sure that these are the bugs which prevent us from
> shipping 1.3.0.
Probably not.
But there are things like the undo crashs that have been in for ages
without any improvment on the horizon.
Andre'
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:15:37PM +0300, Dag Nygren wrote:
>
> I have a problem with lyx somehow generating
> documents where all the scndinavian characters are
> replaced with a space when exported as PDF
> and viewed with acroread.
> Viewing with ghostview do show the chars, but that
> doesn'
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:50:50AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
> In 1.2.2.cvs, I see
>
> case LFUN_WORDRIGHTSEL:
> case LFUN_WORDLEFTSEL:
> break;
> Which really looks like something which is not implemented.
Aren't those those the functions I wrote for sele
> "Philippe" == Charpentier Philippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
Philippe> For example the macros maketitle and the sections are quite
Philippe> different in amsart.sty and amsbook.sty; I think that it
Philippe> would be nice to be able to automaticly display those
Philippe> differencies in
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:16:11AM -0400, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:
> > If you have a file doesn't work, post it here.
>
> Here's one from November, 2000:
> #LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
> \lyxformat 221
This file was saved by lyx 1.3.0cvs. Post the origi
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 03:10:25PM +0200, Asger Kunuk Alstrup Nielsen wrote:
> So, opening up will be like pissing in your pants to keep warm.
classic :) (I agree)
> We need work on the Qt-port.
Actually there is plenty to do for non-Qt people as well.
> - Consider to ask for external help:
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:06:49PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:01:09PM -0400, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:
> > I had thought that there was a fix for the cascading depth problem
> > committed a couple of weeks ago, but an update from today didn't get it.
> The problem h
Hi,
I have a problem with lyx somehow generating
documents where all the scndinavian characters are
replaced with a space when exported as PDF
and viewed with acroread.
Viewing with ghostview do show the chars, but that
doesn't comfort me very much as I would like
to send the PDF-documents to m
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 03:10:25PM +0200, Asger Kunuk Alstrup
Andre> Nielsen wrote:
>> The problem is that if the freeze is opened, there will be more
>> things that needs to be fixed.
Andre> Well, one of the points I was trying t
On 10 Oct 2002 09:49:35 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, everything is possible, of course :) However, this particular
> feature seems a bit complicated to setup and I am not really convinced
> that the result is worth the effort.
> JMarc
>
May be, but this is a cl
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 03:10:25PM +0200, Asger Kunuk Alstrup Nielsen wrote:
> The problem is that if the freeze is opened, there will be more
> things that needs to be fixed.
Well, one of the points I was trying to make - or _the_ point - is the
"infrastructure thingy":
LyX's internal structure
Andre has a point that the freeze results in a waste of resources,
because the resource we have is not willing to work on the things
that are missing.
But a change in policy will not fix this problem.
Only people willing to work on the missing things will bring the
release forward. Other solutio
> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dekel> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 01:26:42PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Dekel> wrote: The KDE tool is kprinter.
Dekel> http://printing.kde.org/screenshots/pics/printdialog.png It is
Dekel> more powerful than our dialog (for example, it allow s
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 01:10:39PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
> It seems a little excessive to generate a 1000 page PostScript
> document to print off only the first page...
It is not such a big problem, and some dvi viewers allow printing
selected pages (e.g. kdvi).
> Apart from that, it does
On Thursday 10 October 2002 1:03 pm, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 01:26:42PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
wrote:
> > Dekel> The KDE tool is kprinter.
> > Dekel>
> > http://printing.kde.org/screenshots/pics/printdialog.png It
> > is Dekel> more powerful than our dialog (for example,
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 01:26:42PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Dekel> The KDE tool is kprinter.
> Dekel> http://printing.kde.org/screenshots/pics/printdialog.png It is
> Dekel> more powerful than our dialog (for example, it allow selecting
> Dekel> the printer from a listbox). We can use
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 01:25:58PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Or add a forcejump bool to left().
Or like that.
> But on the idea, does it sound good?
Yes.
Andre'
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> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dekel> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:19:45PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Dekel> wrote:
>> > "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
Dekel> The KDE tool is kprinter.
Dekel> http://printing.kde.org/screenshots/pics/printdialog.p
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:15:38PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote: Patch attached.
>> A behaviour that would seem reasonable to me when handling those
>> WORD lfuns is that they would be like there non-word counterpart
>
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:24:16PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Hmmph, network error.
Looks ok.
You could apply something similar to 1.3, I still have the pretty big s&r
change in my tree which is not finished yet...
Andre'
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:15:38PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Andre> Patch attached.
>
> A behaviour that would seem reasonable to me when handling those WORD
> lfuns is that they would be like there non-word counterpart except
> that they would do as if the inset were locked. That is,
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:19:45PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dekel> The KDE tool is kprinter.
> Dekel> http://printing.kde.org/screenshots/pics/printdialog.png It is
> Dekel> more powerful than our dialog (for example, it allo
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:11:36PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote:
>> Here is the patch I'd like to apply to 1.2.2cvs. Does it seem right
>> to you?
Andre> Patch is empty?
Hmmph, network error.
JMarc
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:11:36PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Here is the patch I'd like to apply to 1.2.2cvs. Does it seem right to
> you?
Patch is empty?
Andre'
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> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dekel> The KDE tool is kprinter.
Dekel> http://printing.kde.org/screenshots/pics/printdialog.png It is
Dekel> more powerful than our dialog (for example, it allow selecting
Dekel> the printer from a listbox). We can use it just as we current
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 05:30:37PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote:
Michael> #571
>> Andre, do you have plans to add support (or at least disable)
>> these lfuns in mathed? Currently, they are executed by the
>> underlyin
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 09:59:22AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Allan> Maybe we are too configurable in this case. Since it seems
> Allan> every bloke and his dog is using dvips for printing we should
> Allan> limit support that _or_ an external script (as Angus
> Allan> suggested). That m
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 05:30:37PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote:
Michael> #571
>> Andre, do you have plans to add support (or at least disable)
>> these lfuns in mathed? Currently, they are executed by the
>> underlyin
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:50:50AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote: They are not ignored but handled as lfun_leftsel and
Andre> lfun_rightsel.
>> This is indeed the case in 1.3.0cvs (BTW, don't you see that it is
>> stran
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Michael> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: - Search strings inside math
Michael> formula are found but not replaced
>> Something like that? http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453
Michael> No, "replace" currently does not work at all!
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:50:50AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Andre> They are not ignored but handled as lfun_leftsel and
> Andre> lfun_rightsel.
>
> This is indeed the case in 1.3.0cvs (BTW, don't you see that it is
> strange to have lfun_wordleft == lfun_home but lfun_wordleftsel ==
>
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 06:30:06PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote:
>> - how come lfun_prior and lfun_next are not implemented in 1.2.2?
Andre> Probably because I implemented them in the 1.3 cycle?
OK, I'll forget about
Darren Freeman wrote:
> I have noticed that the Document Layout dialogue closes when Save as
> Defaults is clicked. The first time I did this I was planning to click save
> as defaults, then save (since they are left to right, it's a natural
> clicking order for me =).
No, it does not close, it j
On Thursday 10 October 2002 3:12 am, Darren Freeman wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> BTW I'm still using LyX 1.2.1
>
> I found that LyX would jump from halfway down a document up to
> near the top for no reason.
>
> I think it was because I had scrolled down to see an image,
> when it got there it did the
> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Allan> Sure. But in 7 years of LyX's existence nobody has ever
Allan> mentioned it being a problem. In fact in all my time on LyX I
Allan> don't even remember anyone mentioning using anything other than
Allan> the default dvips being used for
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:45:16AM +0930, Darren Freeman wrote:
>> When pasting text via the third mouse button, the LyX attributes
>> aren't preserved. Quite annoying when you notice only after doing
>> it for a while =)
Andre> I
> "Philippe" == Philippe Charpentier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Philippe> Because I frequently use at least three different document
Philippe> class which are verry different, I would be really
Philippe> interessed in the possibility to automaticly use different
Philippe> ui files when I use
> "Duncan" == Duncan Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Duncan> If I understood it correctly last time I saw it epsi files are
Duncan> eps files with a comment that contans a bitmap representation
Duncan> of the image. Un*x systems usually have ghostscript and at
Duncan> least some programs
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