Re: Aleatoric / modern notation

2012-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi all, I'm trying to get the frameEngraver3.ly code from this aleatoric notation thread going on Lilypond 2.16.0-1, and I get the following errors: GNU LilyPond 2.16.0 Processing `frameEngraver.ly' Parsing... frameEngraver.ly:27:1: error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here

Re: Aleatoric / modern notation

2012-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Whoa -- It's marvelous to see such a detailed response to my question. Most importantly, frameEngraver4 works! I will study the differences between 3 and 4 to see what changed. As mentioned, it seems to me that the best course of action would be to make dynamic spanner creation a high developmen

trill spanner and bass clef mark interfering; parenthesized noteheads on every notehead of tie; full width trill spanners

2012-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, Three trill questions for you experts: 1) I'm having trouble spanning some notes with a trill spanner when the first spanned note has a bass clef mark attached and the trill spanner has a specified pitch in parentheses -- When my staff looks like, \new Staff { \pitchedTrill \c

Re: Aleatoric / modern notation

2012-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi David, This is a very help description. Maybe you could describe for me: I see both the box duration as a spacer duration and the line duration as "extender length," in what seem to be unitless units. Here is an addition -- although I'm not sure if it's an improvement -- that might be importan

parentesized trill note colliding with ties

2012-11-16 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, I'm trying to get my parenthesized trill notes to stop colliding with ties, and I think there are a couple things I can learn by solving this problem. First, I can't tell why the collision is happening -- is there a best practice for figuring out why elements collide? Second, I know th

Re: parentesized trill note colliding with ties

2012-11-19 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
sing other collisions. thanks for your advise, Jeff On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Nathan wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Jeffrey Trevino < > jeffrey.trevi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I'm trying to get my parenthesized trill notes to stop

pitched trill spanner always displays accidental?

2012-11-19 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, Is it normal for the pitched trill spanner to always display an accidental for its parenthesized pitch, even if the parenthesized pitch is natural and doesn't need one? Is there a way to override this? I'm finding it immensely frustrating to get at any of the attributes of this parenthes

Re: pitched trill spanner always displays accidental?

2012-11-20 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
frustrate you, Jeff On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Thomas Morley < thomasmorle...@googlemail.com> wrote: > 2012/11/20 Jeffrey Trevino : > > Hi there, > > > > Is it normal for the pitched trill spanner to always display an > accidental > > for its parenthesized

Re: arrow notehead and articulation

2012-11-20 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi Orm, It might not be the best way to go, but one solution is to override the Y-offset of the Script object. I added this override into "pfeilzwei" in the code below, and it works just fine on my machine: pfeileins = { \once \override NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print \once \o

Re: Aleatoric / modern notation

2012-11-24 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
ox's arrow? best, Jeff On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:10 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Jeffrey Trevino > wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > This is a very help description. Maybe you could describe for me: I see > both >

Re: Aleatoric / modern notation

2012-11-24 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
I don't know how the Scheme is working here, so maybe you can try out two of these in parallel and let me know if it's working for you. best, Jeff On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 8:10 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Jeffrey Trevino > wrot

Re: Note duration line (contemporary)

2012-11-28 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi all, It's good to know how to do this. For metric notation, I found that it's also useful to stop the duration line before the barline, instead of continuing it to a subsequent notehead, if the following note is in the next bar: #(define flat-gliss (lambda (grob) (let ((left-Y (assoc-get

Re: Note duration line (contemporary)

2012-11-28 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
on a staff, but maybe there's another paradigm that someone with more experience might recommend as an alternative to this model. thanks for all your help, Jeff On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Thomas Morley < thomasmorle...@googlemail.com> wrote: > 2012/11/28 Jeffrey Trevino : > >

Re: Note duration line (contemporary)

2012-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
ng better on the Scheme front, though, with some > of the recent improvements in integration between Lilypond markup and > Scheme code. > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, David Nalesnik > wrote: > >> Hi Jeffrey, >> >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Paul Morris >

changing spacing between title and first system

2012-12-05 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, Could someone please show me a short, working example of an .ly that sets the spacing between the title and the first system? I was about to give it a shot myself, until I saw, under "known issues and warnings" for version 2.16, "The titles (from the \header block) are treated as a syst

Re: changing spacing between title and first system

2012-12-05 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
." Well, which is it? Is the title treated as a system, or not? J On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Jeffrey Trevino wrote: > Hi there, > > Could someone please show me a short, working example of an .ly that sets > the spacing between the title and the first system? I was about to

Re: changing spacing between title and first system

2012-12-05 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
PPS -- alright, I've found how to manipulate the spacing as I wanted; however, it would be nice to hear a resolution to the above contradiction, if one exists. J On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Jeffrey Trevino wrote: > ... curious -- there's also this, in section 4.1 (spacing i

Re: changing spacing between title and first system

2012-12-05 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Thanks, everyone. That's exactly the solution I found, yes. J On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Nick Payne wrote: > On 06/12/12 08:39, Jeffrey Trevino wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Could someone please show me a short, working example of an .ly that sets >> th

Re: Aleatoric / modern notation

2012-12-06 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
ng. thank you, Jeff On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:19 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey Trevino > wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > Yes, I think it's reasonable to confine the frame to a single line, even > > t

Re: A question of list etiquette and images.

2012-12-18 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
How will this impact users who receive the list in digest mode each week? (I don't get it this way, so I don't know) Jeff On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > >> Given that, does anyone have any suggestions to how behave nicely > >> for list members like Harm when imag

Re: For those who need new features and bug fixes...

2012-12-21 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Dear Mikey, Some chunk of this time might be usefully spent writing a crystal clear, step-by-step Scheme tutorial that explains how to create custom engravers and grobs, query position information of objects in the process, and use these in-line in lilypond code. Thanks for asking and happy holiday

Re: Aleatoric / modern notation

2013-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi David, I just saw this fix. Thanks for spending so much time tweaking this. Maybe there's a way it can be integrated into the Lilypond code, since you've spent so much time developing it. I'll be using it in a score soon. cheers, Jeff On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: >

Re: Aleatoric / modern notation

2013-01-15 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
i Jeff, > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Jeffrey Trevino < > jeffrey.trevi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> I just saw this fix. Thanks for spending so much time tweaking this. >> Maybe there's a way it can be integrated into the Lilypon

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
"So what's the sanest course with regard to new articulations?" >From the perspective of contemporary music, the sanest course is to provide basic utilities for drawing arbitrarily complex symbols in specified locations, which Lilypond sort of does/doesn't have. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:59 AM,

Re: ledger line crash with very high notes in first chord of system

2013-01-24 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
PS disregard "in first system" in the subject -- for a moment I thought this was the case, but it happens regardless of a chord's position On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Trevino wrote: > I think I've found a default behavior that could use a little work: >

change staff for component notes of chord

2013-01-24 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
hi there, I like the "change staff" interface for switching staffs and beaming across them. Is there a similar interface available for chords, which allows the user to specify that certain higher or lower notes should be drawn on a different staff? I would find this much easier to use than the "cr

Re: ledger line crash with very high notes in first chord of system

2013-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
er like they are in staff lines. What would you want? > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Jeffrey Trevino > *To:* lilypond-user > *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 4:47 AM > *Subject:* ledger line crash with very high notes in fi

Re: change staff for component notes of chord

2013-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
t 3:26 AM, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Xavier Scheuer" > To: "Jeffrey Trevino" > Cc: "lilypond-user" > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: change staff for component notes of chord > > > &g

Re: ledger line crash with very high notes in first chord of system

2013-01-28 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
e notes of a chord...) cheers, Jeff On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Keith OHara wrote: > Jeffrey Trevino gmail.com> writes: > > > the accidentals should be moved to the left to avoid collision with the > ledger > lines. > > Yes, the ledger lines are discontinu

Re: Woodwind Fingering diagrams problem

2013-01-28 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi, It should be pointed out that it's a common notational practice to hide the unused non-center keys in fingering diagrams; this behavior is idiomatic. (Although there's no reason why that means you can't display all the keys, as you want.) just sayin, Jeff On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Elu

Re: ledger line crash with very high notes in first chord of system

2013-01-30 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi Paul, A great trick! It looks like beaming and slurring across staffs works well with this technique, which is marvelous. This could be the way to go, but I need to figure out a few more things with this paradigm before I can use it: Is there a way to attach a "treble^8" clef at the beginning

force tuplet bracket to beam side

2013-01-30 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, I've got a rogue tuplet bracket trying to span notes on the note side instead of the beam side, and I'd like to specify that the tuplet bracket should always be on the beam side. Internals tell me that I need to set ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-direction equal to -1, but I'm not sure what the

Re: force tuplet bracket to beam side

2013-01-30 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
fSymbol #'line-positions = #'( -10 -12 -14 -16 -18 ) \override Stem #'no-stem-extend = ##f \time 3/8 a,, c a c]) } On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Jeffrey Trevino wrote: > Hi there, > > I've got a rogue tuplet bracket trying to span notes on the note side >

chord partially tied to another chord

2013-01-30 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, I'm curious about the behavior of chords that tie partially to other chords. Why does the tie go from the C to nothing here, when it should go from e to e?: \version "2.17.0" \language "english" \new Staff{ 4 4 } Things display correctly when the lower note doesn't need a ledger lin

Re: allowing any horizontal collision in proportional notation

2013-02-07 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi Michael, Do you still want legible accidentals? In that case, you might just invent an alternate notation that gives you exact horizontal spacing by eliminating all traditionally placed accidentals and places them over the notes instead. or something, Jeff On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Mic

Re: Bassoon fingering charts O_o

2013-02-07 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, Could you please share the fingering catalogue code with the list, so that we can make similar diagrams for the other instruments? It would be useful to include a set of these in the documentation some how, come to think of it. cheers, Jeff On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:42 AM, James Harkins

is it possible to scale the horizontal width of a custom markup according to the graphic position of notes?

2013-02-13 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, I'm having trouble grasping how a horizontally spanning custom markup can reliably correspond to the graphic space occupied by several notes, aside from lots of trial-and-error coordinate tweaking. I'd like to do something like, my_horizontal_markup = #'(eleventy_lineto_commands) \new

hide ledger lines for one notehead

2013-03-16 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
a yes or no question for y'all -- Is there a way to hide the ledger lines for a single notehead? I see that it's possible to override a ledger lines stencil at the level of staff context, but I don't see how to do it for a single notehead. thanks, Jeff _

space after barline w/proportional spacing and grace notes before first note in bar

2012-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, How can I manually adjust the space between a barline and the first note in the bar? I'm using proportional spacing with some grace notes attached to the first note in the bar, and the grace notes are colliding with the barline (because proportional spacing is putting the first note wher

Re: hiding accidentals

2012-03-16 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
engraver for a main note, without turning off the engraver for its attached grace notes? thanks for your help, Jeff On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:54 PM, m...@apollinemike.com < m...@apollinemike.com> wrote: > On Mar 16, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Jeffrey Trevino wrote: > > > Hi there,

dynamic/beam/stem/tuplet number/tuplet number collisions

2012-03-23 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, I'm rendering some dense notation, and there are lots of collisions between beams, stems, dynamics, tuplet numbers, and tuplet brackets. I'd like to be sure I'm aware of best practices with two questions: 1) What are the global actions I should take to keep this from happening upon rend

Re: change notehead without changing duration

2012-06-25 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:14 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > "m...@apollinemike.com" writes: > > > On 25 juin 2012, at 23:02, Jeffrey Trevino wrote: > > > >> Hi there, > >> > >> Is there a straightforward way to change a notehead glyph without >

padding for shortInstrumentName

2012-06-30 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hey all, I'm a bit confused by the relationship between InstrumentName and ShortInstrumentName. In the internals reference, the former seems to be an autonomous layout object, but ShortInstrumentName is somehow a property of this first object -- or? I hope someone can clarify what's going on for me

consecutive downbow-upbow articulations

2012-09-03 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, I'd like to indicate that string instruments will need to re-bow during a very long note, through a common symbol: A downbow followed immediately by an upbow, appearing over a single note. (I guess string players might find this obvious from the duration of a note, but I'm copying a scor

Re: consecutive downbow-upbow articulations

2012-09-03 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Eluze! Exactly. Thank you so much. But the two symbols are overlapping with one another. How do you think I should make sure that the upbow symbol isn't drawn on top of the downbow symbol? J On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:33 AM, eluze wrote: > > Jeffrey Trevino wrote > > > >

formatting rehearsal marks

2012-09-03 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, I'm having trouble finding the correct overrides to change rehearsal mark formatting. I'd like to change the font name used for the marks, as well as the amount of white space between the number and the drawn circle or box (so that there is more white space between the number or letter a

Re: consecutive downbow-upbow articulations

2012-09-03 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Thanks, Eluze and David! It looks just how I want it now. J On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jeffrey Trevino > wrote: > > Eluze! Exactly. Thank you so much. But the two symbols are overlapping > with &g

articulation vertical ordering

2012-09-03 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
Hi there, How can I change the vertical order of articulation marks? I'd like tenuto lines to be closest to notes, and accents further away, but I can only get the reverse order. I see script priority in the docs, but it seems that articulation marks would have equal script priorities -- right? I'