Hi again,
I am getting a cyclic dependency error with code that uses change staff and
trillSpan. Here is as minimal an example as I could create:
%%%
\version "2.24.3"
\language "english"
staffUp = \change Staff = "upper"
staffDown = \change Staff = "low
Thank you!
..m.
> On 16 Jun 2023, at 19:40, Kieren MacMillan
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
>> Is there a way of finding out about the various objects and their names?
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/internals/all-layout-objects
>
> Hope that helps!
> Kieren.
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Le vendredi 16 juin 2023 à 19:36 +1000, Mark Probert a écrit :
>
> Many thanks, Jean.
>
> I kinda knew there would be a simple solution, but I had trouble finding
> “TrillSpanner.” Is there a way of finding out about the various objects and
> their names?
Sure. Method 1: you look at the docume
Hi Mark,
> Is there a way of finding out about the various objects and their names?
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/internals/all-layout-objects
Hope that helps!
Kieren.
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Many thanks, Jean.
I kinda knew there would be a simple solution, but I had trouble finding
“TrillSpanner.” Is there a way of finding out about the various objects and
their names?
..m.
> On 16 Jun 2023, at 18:39, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>
> Le vendredi 16 juin 2023 à 17:54 +1000, Mark Pro
Le vendredi 16 juin 2023 à 17:54 +1000, Mark Probert a écrit :
> Hi.
>
> According to the manual "A hairpin ending on a downbeat will stop at
> the preceding barline." By default, I've found this to be true of
> \startTrillSpan \stopTrillSpan as well.
>
> With hairpins there is an override (H
Hi.
According to the manual "A hairpin ending on a downbeat will stop at
the preceding barline." By default, I've found this to be true of
\startTrillSpan \stopTrillSpan as well.
With hairpins there is an override (Hairpin.to-barline) that allows for
the final note to be included. Does there
te to Lilypond 2.24, because the
trillspan should stop just /before/ the acciaccatura...
Current result (with Lily 2.22):
Regards,
Arjen
Thanks!
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 1:47 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
> Le dimanche 05 mars 2023 à 13:43 -0500, Mark Mathias a écrit :
>
> My guess as to why the script-priority isn't a solution is that it decides
> between competing scripts and the trill spanner isn't a script. Whereas
> outside-staff-
Le dimanche 05 mars 2023 à 13:43 -0500, Mark Mathias a écrit :
> My guess as to why the script-priority isn't a solution is that it decides
> between competing scripts and the trill spanner isn't a script. Whereas
> outside-staff-priority evaluates competing values of all objects of whatever
>
anche 05 mars 2023 à 15:56 +0100, Arjen a écrit :
>
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to switch the vertical stacking order of the upbow symbol and
> the trillspan in the following fragment by overriding the script-priority
> of the upbow symbol.
> The upbow symbol should be the topmo
Le dimanche 05 mars 2023 à 15:56 +0100, Arjen a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to switch the vertical stacking order of the upbow symbol
> and the trillspan in the following fragment by overriding the script-
> priority of the upbow symbol.
> The upbow symbol sho
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 9:56 AM Arjen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to switch the vertical stacking order of the upbow symbol and
> the trillspan in the following fragment by overriding the script-priority
> of the upbow symbol.
> The upbow symbol should be the topmost.
&g
Hello,
I am trying to switch the vertical stacking order of the upbow symbol
and the trillspan in the following fragment by overriding the
script-priority of the upbow symbol.
The upbow symbol should be the topmost.
\version "2.22.1"
\relative a'' {
g1\startTrillSpan (
ot know
> the proper word for it. But yes, your solution did work. I needed a bit
> of tweaking because the TrillSpan jumped to the right a bit. But got it
> fixed and it looks as needed. Thanks again.
>
> vriendelijke groet, Erik Appeldoorn
>
> -- Origineel bericht --
&g
THank you
I knew the <> as a 'stay in this place' type of anchor. I do not know
the proper word for it. But yes, your solution did work. I needed a bit
of tweaking because the TrillSpan jumped to the right a bit. But got it
fixed and it looks as needed. Thanks again.
vr
Hello Erik,
\startTrillSpan is a post event, so you need to specify it after the note you
want the trill to start on. You can use empty chords <> to circumvent this and
kind of specify the span before the first note.
You still won’t get any change, as trill spans are by default outside-staff
g
I wanted to move a TrillSpann downwards to within the bar on the middle
barline.
I finaly came up with
\once \override TrillSpanner.Y-offset = #-2 \startTrillSpan a4*5
\stopTrillSpan
But got an error 'unbound TrillSpannEvent' and nothing has changed.
So how do I move that TrillSpanner southward
ems to work.
>
> It's possible to add a little bit of syntactic sugar for this construction:
>
> \version "2.22"
>
> trillSpan =
> #(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
> #{
> <>\startTrillSpan
> #mus
> <>\stopTrillS
Hi Ken,
I implemented the trill span; it was not intuitive to me to end the
trill span on the following note, but it seems to work.
It's possible to add a little bit of syntactic sugar for this construction:
\version "2.22"
trillSpan =
#(define-music-function
> On 28 Jan 2022, at 01:03, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
>
> I have trouble understanding how to implement the \startTrillSpan
> and \stopTrillSpan.
…
> Another related question: what is the difference in the actual
> performance of the two types?
The trill symbol only applies to the note it is wr
Hi Kira;
No problem! I do very much appreciate comments regarding the
performance aspects of the music I try to engrave.
I think I will write my own trill function for midi (not in
Scheme/Guile :-) but in Perl) which will generate alternating 32nd
notes or something like that which I can just
😂 Sorry if I went overboard! I think you are probably asking too much from
midi - the nuance won't be there. Have you considered consulting a
different arrangement of the piece, and seeing what sort of trill is
notated there? That specific notation that you used probably wasn't
original to the piec
Hi Kira;
Thank you for your elaboration on the performance aspects of the trill.
I implemented the trill span; it was not intuitive to me to end the
trill span on the following note, but it seems to work.
I implemented articulate.ly on the piece and the trill sounds
***AWFUL*** It sounds l
I can't speak to the Lilypond notation, but only to the actual score
notation. When is this piece of music from? Different composers used
various trill markings to mean different things, but the 16th notes,
although they are notated normally, are probably part of the ornament.
There isnt really a s
So, it appears that \stopTrillSpan being placed on the following note
does not include the following note in the trill; I guess that was
not obvious to me.
The third question is that the trill does not appear in the midi
output, but articulation.ly would implement it?
Thanks again,
Ken Wolcott
Hi;
I have trouble understanding how to implement the \startTrillSpan
and \stopTrillSpan.
I have two screenshots.
The first is an obvious \trill, no span needed.
The second requires the span, but I don't know how to place the
\stopTrillSpan.
I see the trill section in the Notation Re
x-_005ccresc
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mogens
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Kenneth Wolcott
> Sent: August 7, 2021 14:15
> To: Lily Pond
> Subject: how to write an extended dim and cresc (text, not hairpins) ,like a
> trillSpan?
>
>
>
> Hi;
>
>
>
> How
Am Sa., 7. Aug. 2021 um 23:20 Uhr schrieb Aaron Hill :
>
> On 2021-08-07 2:14 pm, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > How to write an extended dim and cresc (text, not hairpins) ,like a
> > trillSpan?
> > [ . . . ]
> > Where do I look in the manual for this long extension (spa
Thank you, Aaron!
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 2:20 PM Aaron Hill wrote:
>
> On 2021-08-07 2:14 pm, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > How to write an extended dim and cresc (text, not hairpins) ,like a
> > trillSpan?
> > [ . . . ]
> > Where do I look in the manual for this
On 2021-08-07 2:14 pm, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
How to write an extended dim and cresc (text, not hairpins) ,like a
trillSpan?
[ . . . ]
Where do I look in the manual for this long extension (span?) of the
expressive mark?
Text spanners [1] should be what you need.
[1]:
http://lilypond.org
BTW, I'm on Lilypond 2.22 (it looks like I see something different in
2.23 regarding dim and cresc being Lilypond commands now?)
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 2:14 PM Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
>
> Hi;
>
> How to write an extended dim and cresc (text, not hairpins) ,like a trillSpan?
&g
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 08:58:07AM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote:
[...]
> BTW, articulate was developed as a hack for the Artemis robot
> instrument challenge; changes in Lilypond since then mean that it's
> rather out of date. Some of the functionality is now already in the
> Lilypond C++ core (shorte
> "Davide" == Davide Liessi writes:
Davide> Dear Peter, Il 24/02/15 06.48, Peter Chubb ha scritto:
>> I had a brainstorm -- the problem is SkipMusic which isn't handled
>> anywhere. But we can use a SkipEvent instead, and it all works!!!
Davide> Alas it does not: I get the same barcheck fai
Dear Peter,
Il 24/02/15 06.48, Peter Chubb ha scritto:
> I had a brainstorm -- the problem is SkipMusic which isn't handled
> anywhere. But we can use a SkipEvent instead, and it all works!!!
Alas it does not: I get the same barcheck failures both in the minimal example
I posted and in the real
> "Davide" == Davide Liessi writes:
Davide> Dear Peter, Il 04/02/15 09.46, Peter Chubb ha scritto:
>> Looks like the code that was added to do agogic accents (aka swing)
>> expands MultiMeasureRestMusic and throws away any articulation
>> events (like the end of the trill spanner) on the way.
> "Davide" == Davide Liessi writes:
Davide> Dear Peter, Il 04/02/15 09.46, Peter Chubb ha scritto:
>> Looks like the code that was added to do agogic accents (aka swing)
>> expands MultiMeasureRestMusic and throws away any articulation
>> events (like the end of the trill spanner) on the way.
Dear Peter,
Il 04/02/15 09.46, Peter Chubb ha scritto:
Looks like the code that was added to do agogic accents (aka swing)
expands MultiMeasureRestMusic and throws away any articulation events
(like the end of the trill spanner) on the way.
The fix is probably to add the ariculations in at the
> "Noeck" == Noeck writes:
Noeck> Hi Davide,
>> I would expect \articulate to correctly handle trill spanners
>> regardless to what \stopTrillSpan is attached to.
Noeck> Yep, me too. That’s why I said: I don’t know how to fix it.
Looks like the code that was added to do agogic accents (ak
Hi Davide,
> I would expect \articulate to correctly handle trill spanners regardless
> to what \stopTrillSpan is attached to.
Yep, me too. That’s why I said: I don’t know how to fix it.
Joram
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Dear Joram,
Il 04/02/15 00.19, Noeck ha scritto:
I don’t know how to fix it in articulate but adding <> and moving the
\stopTrillSpan before the rest seems to work:
Thanks, that is a nice workaround!
However I believe this is a bug in articulate.ly.
This means: The trill stops visually at th
Hi Davide,
I don’t know how to fix it in articulate but adding <> and moving the
\stopTrillSpan before the rest seems to work:
\version "2.19.15"
\include "articulate.ly"
mus = {
b1 \startTrillSpan |
<> \stopTrillSpan R1 |
b2 r |
}
\new Staff \mus
\articulate \mus
This means: The trill st
Dear all,
I found a strange behaviour in the interaction of articulate.ly with
TrillSpan and full-measure rests.
This snippet:
\version "2.19.15"
\include "articulate.ly"
\articulate {
b1 \startTrillSpan |
R1 \stopTrillSpan |
b2 r |
}
gives a warning: barcheck f
ve an idea why this example doesn't work?
I'm not even getting an
error message. I can't find newer code online. Also, is there a
way to extend
the trillspan all the way to the barline? I found a post with this
question,
but no answer.
Thanks, Ruth
\version "2.11.28&
have an idea why this example doesn't work? I'm not even getting an
error message. I can't find newer code online. Also, is there a way to extend
the trillspan all the way to the barline? I found a post with this question,
but no answer.
Thanks,
Ruth
\version "2.1
center \musicglyph #"scripts.trill" \vcenter \teeny \flat }
/Mats
Ruth Roland wrote:
Hi,
There have been various posts regarding putting an accidental above a trill.
Does anyone have an idea why this example doesn't work? I'm not even getting an
error message. I can
Hi,
There have been various posts regarding putting an accidental above a trill.
Does anyone have an idea why this example doesn't work? I'm not even getting an
error message. I can't find newer code online. Also, is there a way to extend
the trillspan all the way to the barl
Hi Stefan,
So now the first TrillSpan collides with the second. Is there a
possibility to decimate the length of the trill span somehow?
See <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-09/
msg00070.html>.
Cheers,
Kieren.
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li
pitchedTrill d8.\startTrillSpan f \pitchedTrill cis4\stopTrillSpan
\startTrillSpan e d2\stopTrillSpan
}
\score {
the known things...
}
So now the first TrillSpan collides with the second. Is there a
possibility to decimate the length of the trill span somehow?
Thx
Thanks again, Kieren!
That worked.
Ralph
-Original Message-
From: Kieren MacMillan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:19 PM
To: Palmer, Ralph
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Barcheck and TrillSpan
Hi Ralph...
> That works perfectly for the c
Hi Ralph...
That works perfectly for the clef change at the beginning of the
piece.
Glad to hear it!
Anyone have any ideas about the TrillSpan problem?
What about:
%%% BEGIN SNIPPET
\version "2.11.23"
\include "english.ly"
\score
{
{
Thanks, Kieren -
That works perfectly for the clef change at the beginning of the piece.
Anyone have any ideas about the TrillSpan problem?
Ralph
-Original Message-
From: Kieren MacMillan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:01 AM
To: Palmer, Ralph
Cc
Hi Ralph,
I'm using a silent note (space holder?) to allow a different clef
cue at the
beginning of the piece, and it is causing a barcheck failure. The
failure doesn't seem to produce any other problems, so should I just
ignore it? Or is there a better structure to use to get my intended
re
Greetings -
I'm getting there, and I'd like to thank all of you for the wonderful
program and all the help!
I'm running LilyPond 2.11.23 under Windows XP SP2.
I'm including a snippet and the log from running the snippet. I'm using
a silent note (space holder?) to allow a different clef cue at th
rillSpan}{s2 s4 s8 s16 s32
s32\stopTrillSpan}>> |
Using the skipnumbers you have here works, but the trill-line extends to
the next note, actually slightly beyond the edge of the next note. By
tweaking the numbers a little more I am able to make the trill line end
just prior to the next
the numbers a little more I am able to make the trill line end
just prior to the next note, like this:
<<{ a4-> c,2.->(\startTrillSpan}{s2 s4 s8. s16\stopTrillSpan}>>
New question - the trillspan TR is colliding with the sharp # of a g# on
the top line, and in another instance collides with a
> Thanks for the hack, it doesn't work quite right.
This is because you have to adapt the construct to the
actual bar content. In
<< { music_a } { music_b } >>
The duration must be equal in "music_a" and "music_b" or
you'll have bar check failures (and/or the music will not
look like you w
On 25-Feb-05, at 12:49 AM, Gilles wrote:
The following trick can be used to make the span stop very close to
the bar:
<< { e1\startTrillSpan } { s2 s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan } >>
If you want to save some space you could write
{ s2 s32\stopTrillSpan }
Cheers,
- Graham
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Gilles wrote:
Hi.
I am trying to use startTrillSpan and stopTrillSpan with a
skip note of duration 0 to make it stop before the bar line, but that
doesn't to work, the trill still continues across the barline and over
the first note of the next bar.
The following trick can be used to make the
Hi.
> I am trying to use startTrillSpan and stopTrillSpan with a
> skip note of duration 0 to make it stop before the bar line, but that
> doesn't to work, the trill still continues across the barline and over
> the first note of the next bar.
The following trick can be used to make the span
I am using lilypond-2.4.2 on windoze for the first time (have 2.2 on my
FreeBSD box). I am trying to use startTrillSpan and stopTrillSpan with a
skip note of duration 0 to make it stop before the bar line, but that
doesn't to work, the trill still continues across the barline and over
the first
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