Hi Kira; Thank you for your elaboration on the performance aspects of the trill.
I implemented the trill span; it was not intuitive to me to end the trill span on the following note, but it seems to work. I implemented articulate.ly on the piece and the trill sounds ***AWFUL*** It sounds like someone knocked over the Piano! I don't think the 8notes.com's Piano arrangement of the "Prince of Denmark's March" (or "Trumpet Voluntary"), composed by Jeremiah Clarke, should sound so terrible with articulate.ly implemented, but I guess I'm expecting too much from midi. Thanks, Ken Wolcott On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 5:07 PM Kira Garvie <kgar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I can't speak to the Lilypond notation, but only to the actual score > notation. When is this piece of music from? Different composers used various > trill markings to mean different things, but the 16th notes, although they > are notated normally, are probably part of the ornament. There isnt really a > set "duration" for a trill, so no guarantee just "tr" would be an exact > quarter note - there can be as much variation in how someone performs a trill > as any other musical indication. (ie start the attack slow, almost a full 8th > note duration, and speed up through to slow back down for the termination, or > a quick sharp attack going rapidly through to the termination, or a gentle > ornament that ends on the main note and waits to terminate). To me at first > glance, the plain "tr" indicates to trill for the full value not because of > itself, but because of that little termination afterwards. The wavy line > after it just makes it extra clear what you are supposed to do. These would > all be impacted by tempo, composer, country, etc... performance practice of > ornamentation is just as ridiculously fussy and messy as anything else in > music! > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 7:16 PM Kenneth Wolcott <kennethwolc...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> So, it appears that \stopTrillSpan being placed on the following note >> does not include the following note in the trill; I guess that was >> not obvious to me. >> >> The third question is that the trill does not appear in the midi >> output, but articulation.ly would implement it? >> >> Thanks again, >> Ken Wolcott >> >> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 4:03 PM Kenneth Wolcott >> <kennethwolc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi; >> > >> > I have trouble understanding how to implement the \startTrillSpan >> > and \stopTrillSpan. >> > >> > I have two screenshots. >> > >> > The first is an obvious \trill, no span needed. >> > >> > The second requires the span, but I don't know how to place the >> > \stopTrillSpan. >> > >> > I see the trill section in the Notation Reference. It does not help >> > me understand how to place the \stopTrillSPan correctly. I could >> > place the \stopTrillSpan after the following note, but that certainly >> > would be correct, right? >> > >> > Another related question: what is the difference in the actual >> > performance of the two types? >> > >> > This is partially explained by Wikipedia: >> > >> > "A rapid alternation between the specified note and the next higher >> > note (determined by key signature) within its duration, also called a >> > "shake". When followed by a wavy horizontal line, this symbol >> > indicates an extended, or running, trill. In music up to the time of >> > Haydn or Mozart the trill begins on the upper auxiliary note" >> > >> > So does this mean that a dotted-quarter note trill will only be >> > "trilled" for a quarter note duration and will the spanner indicate >> > the full dotted quarter duration? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Ken Wolcott >>
