Re: Accidental repeated with ottava

2023-02-10 Thread Knute Snortum
taves but "on the same level" because of an ottava, the > > accidental is repeated. This makes sense logically because they are > > not the same note, but it doesn't look right to me, at least. Maybe > > it's the intended behavior? > > FWIW, Gould writes:

Re: Accidental repeated with ottava

2023-02-10 Thread Mark Knoop
At 10:38 on 10 Feb 2023, Knute Snortum wrote: > I have run into something in LilyPond that's annoying -- it probably > doesn't rise to the level of bug. When you have two notes in > different octaves but "on the same level" because of an ottava, the > accidenta

Accidental repeated with ottava

2023-02-10 Thread Knute Snortum
I have run into something in LilyPond that's annoying -- it probably doesn't rise to the level of bug. When you have two notes in different octaves but "on the same level" because of an ottava, the accidental is repeated. This makes sense logically because they are not t

Re: Clef with Ottava in parenthese

2023-02-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I actually looked, but found this page - > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/clef-styles > there it's not mentioned :( https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/1838 Werner

Re: Clef with Ottava in parenthese

2023-02-08 Thread Johannes Roeßler
thx Xavier - I actually looked, but found this page - https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/clef-styles there it's not mentioned :( - sorry, embarrassing... On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 15:26, Johannes Roeßler wrote: > > Hi Group, > > is it possible to create a clef like this: > > Like

Re: Clef with Ottava in parenthese

2023-02-08 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 15:26, Johannes Roeßler wrote: > > Hi Group, > > is it possible to create a clef like this: > > Like \clef "violin_8" but with the 8 in parentheses? Hello, \clef "violin_(8)" or \clef "treble_(8)" works. They are also mentioned in the documentation: NR 1.1.3 Displaying pitc

Re: Clef with Ottava in parenthese

2023-02-08 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 8 févr. 2023 à 15:27, Johannes Roeßler a écrit : > >  > Hi Group, > > is it possible to create a clef like this: > > > > Like \clef "violin_8" but with the 8 in parentheses? > See the fourth example here: https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#cle

Clef with Ottava in parenthese

2023-02-08 Thread Johannes Roeßler
Hi Group, is it possible to create a clef like this: Like \clef "violin_8" but with the 8 in parentheses? Best regards Johannes

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-06 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 2:14 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le 02/12/2022 à 02:27, Joel C. Salomon a écrit : > > Piece of music I have in front of me puts the text "loco." above the > > first note after an ottava. See also the attached example, from > > <https:

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-03 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 3. Dez. 2022 um 16:56 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra : > > Le 03/12/2022 à 15:41, Thomas Morley a écrit : > > Granted, if I use -dcheck-internal-types I mostly wear my developer > > hat. But sometimes I use it even for huge custom codings as part of > > debugging processes. > > > > Why? What d

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-03 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 03/12/2022 à 15:41, Thomas Morley a écrit : Granted, if I use -dcheck-internal-types I mostly wear my developer hat. But sometimes I use it even for huge custom codings as part of debugging processes. Why? What does it catch? In my view, warnings about a property being set on a grob that

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-03 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 3. Dez. 2022 um 15:06 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra : > -S only shows commits that changed the number of occurrences > of the pattern, which is useful to find out when something > was added or deleted. To find all the times a line containing > the pattern was changed, use -G instead. Thanks

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-03 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 03/12/2022 à 14:46, Thomas Morley a écrit : I didn't know about -S Thanks. Alas, this command extended as $ git log -S "check-internal-types" --oneline --author="Han-Wen" prints for me: $ git log -S "check-internal-types" --oneline --author="Han-Wen" 264570e68e Documentation: remove documenta

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-03 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 3. Dez. 2022 um 13:53 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra : > Le 03/12/2022 à 13:26, Thomas Morley a écrit : > > \version "2.23.0" > > > 2.23.80, I suppose? horizontal-line-spanner is new in 2.23.6. Ofcourse, that 8 slipped away somehow... > > Btw, I can't find -dcheck-internal-types in the 2.2

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-03 Thread Jean Abou Samra
example we were to transpose the part up we would want to extend the ottava indication so it also encompasses some notes marked as loco. If we were to transpose it down we might not use the ottave indication at all (or only for a shorter section), but we would still put the loco in the same place. I

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-03 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Fr., 2. Dez. 2022 um 02:28 Uhr schrieb Joel C. Salomon : > > Piece of music I have in front of me puts the text "loco." above the > first note after an ottava. See also the attached example, from > <https://dictionary.onmusic.org/terms/17-8va>. > > The code b

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-02 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hi Joel, The OttavaBracket looks like a line-spanner, but it isn’t! It doesn’t even follow the spanner interface (between notes), but the bracket interface (encompass notes). But why would you in fact want this? As I read this the ottava indication and the indication are mostly independent

Re: "loco" after ottava

2022-12-02 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 02/12/2022 à 02:27, Joel C. Salomon a écrit : Piece of music I have in front of me puts the text "loco." above the first note after an ottava. See also the attached example, from <https://dictionary.onmusic.org/terms/17-8va>. The code below does not work, which makes me sus

"loco" after ottava

2022-12-01 Thread Joel C. Salomon
Piece of music I have in front of me puts the text "loco." above the first note after an ottava. See also the attached example, from <https://dictionary.onmusic.org/terms/17-8va>. The code below does not work, which makes me suspect I do not in fact understand the spanner interf

Re: Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices

2022-07-01 Thread Ahanu Banerjee
Thank you! -Ahanu On Fri, Jul 1, 2022, 04:00 Paul Hodges wrote: > The ottava bracket needs both ends defined to appear, so the ottava > command and its cancellation should be at the start and end of the music to > be affected, like this: > > << { \ottava 1 \repeat u

Re: Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices

2022-07-01 Thread Paul Hodges
The ottava bracket needs both ends defined to appear, so the ottava command and its cancellation should be at the start and end of the music to be affected, like this:   << { \ottava 1 \repeat unfold 4 c'' \ottava 0 } \\ { \repeat unfold 4 d,, } >> However, the comm

Re: Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices

2022-06-30 Thread William Rehwinkel
Dear Ahanu, There is an example ( https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#ottava-brackets ) in the documentation which covers this subject. Is there anything else about this that isn't working for you? -William --- { \clef bass <&

Simultaneous ottava and non-ottava voices

2022-06-30 Thread Ahanu Banerjee
Hi, Is it possible to have two voices in one measure, on one staff, with one voice as "Ottava 1" and the other as "Ottava 0"? (I realise this notation may seem unclear, but I have a specific use case.) If I try the following, each ottava overrides the other: \version &

Re: ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not the end of the bar

2022-05-14 Thread Valentin Petzel
> behaviour, as done by most Software, Editions and recommended by Gould. Thus >> doing ottava markings like this should be considered uncommon notation. >> Considering Tchaikovsky is not exactly modern music I think it is viable to >> say that in this case it is your original s

Re: ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not the end of the bar

2022-05-14 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
your expertise. Ken On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 2:54 AM Valentin Petzel wrote: > > Hello Ken, > > As far as I know Lilypond's behaviour here is pretty much the standard > behaviour, as done by most Software, Editions and recommended by Gould. Thus > doing ottava markings li

Re: ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not the end of the bar

2022-05-14 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Thank you, Aaron. Interesting thoughts... Ken On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 9:21 PM Aaron Hill wrote: > > On 2022-05-13 8:28 pm, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > The ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not at the end > > of the bar. > > > > How to chan

Re: ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not the end of the bar

2022-05-14 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Ken, As far as I know Lilypond's behaviour here is pretty much the standard behaviour, as done by most Software, Editions and recommended by Gould. Thus doing ottava markings like this should be considered uncommon notation. Considering Tchaikovsky is not exactly modern music I thi

Re: ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not the end of the bar

2022-05-13 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-05-13 8:28 pm, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: The ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not at the end of the bar. How to change this? Screenshots attached. Consider the following: \version "2.22.0" \relative c'' { % Be careful not to stop

Re: Ottava printing at beginning of system

2021-11-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
what this function does is: > > > > If the ottava bracket is broken we check if the grob is a broken part. > > This is done by getting all broken parts (the siblings) and checking if > > grob is the first of these (implying that it is the first part which we > > do not w

Re: Ottava printing at beginning of system

2021-11-29 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Mo., 29. Nov. 2021 um 22:49 Uhr schrieb Valentin Petzel : > > Basically grob.after-line-breaking is a function that get’s called on grob > after line breaks are determined and allows us to do tweaks related to line- > breaking. So what this function does is: > > If the ottava

Re: Ottava printing at beginning of system

2021-11-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
Basically grob.after-line-breaking is a function that get’s called on grob after line breaks are determined and allows us to do tweaks related to line- breaking. So what this function does is: If the ottava bracket is broken we check if the grob is a broken part. This is done by getting all

Re: Ottava printing at beginning of system

2021-11-29 Thread Molly Preston
t > > continue it with a dashed line? > > > > \version "2.22.1" > > > > \score { > > > > \new Staff { > > \set Staff.ottavationMarkups = #ottavation-ordinals > > \ottava #1 > > c''' 4 d''' e'''' f'''' > > \break > > d''' f'''' g'''' a'''' > > > >} > > } > > > > -Molly

Re: Ottava printing at beginning of system

2021-11-29 Thread Valentin Petzel
t; > > \score { > > \new Staff { > \set Staff.ottavationMarkups = #ottavation-ordinals > \ottava #1 > c''' 4 d''' e'''' f'''' > \break > d''' f'''' g'''

Ottava printing at beginning of system

2021-11-29 Thread Molly Preston
#ottavation-ordinals \ottava #1 c''' 4 d''' e'''' f'''' \break d''' f'''' g'''' a'''' } } -Molly

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-07 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 2:08 PM Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > p.s. > > > Does \afterBreak not work with OttavaBracket.padding? > > um… \alterBroken (as in the snippet). > Sorry! — K > > > \relative { > > \alterBroken #'padding #'(1 7) Staff.Ot

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/6/21, 3:24 PM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Lukas-Fabian Moser" wrote: > \relative { >\alterBroken #'padding #'(1 7) Staff.OttavaBracket >\ottava 1 c''''1 \break > c2 2 > } I continue my l

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Lukas, > I continue my lonely crusade against the hash-tick-combinations I generally remove them — I’m on the crusade with you! — tho’ on this “fast-cut-and-paste job”, I didn’t. =( That being said, there are certain circumstances in which I prefer keeping the hashes, as they (IMO) help re

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-11-06 2:45 pm, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: Since #'(1 7) is a list of numbers, you could write it this way: \relative {   \alterBroken padding 1,7 Staff.OttavaBracket   \ottava 1 c''''1 \break   c2 2 } Right, thanks! I had a feeling there was a w

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Since #'(1 7) is a list of numbers, you could write it this way: \relative {   \alterBroken padding 1,7 Staff.OttavaBracket   \ottava 1 c''''1 \break   c2 2 } Right, thanks! I had a feeling there was a way to do this using dak's syntax enhancements

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-11-06 2:23 pm, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: \relative { \alterBroken #'padding #'(1 7) Staff.OttavaBracket \ottava 1 c''''1 \break c2 2 } I continue my lonely crusade against the hash-tick-combinations that I found so daunting when I learned LilyPond

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
\relative { \alterBroken #'padding #'(1 7) Staff.OttavaBracket \ottava 1 c''''1 \break c2 2 } I continue my lonely crusade against the hash-tick-combinations that I found so daunting when I learned LilyPond and which are needed much less often today

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 06/11/2021 à 22:01, Knute Snortum a écrit : Hello again, I have a situation where I need to adjust the padding of an ottava bracket after a line break. That is, I want to affect the bracket on the second line, but not the first. I know you can do something like this with the \shape

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
p.s. > Does \afterBreak not work with OttavaBracket.padding? um… \alterBroken (as in the snippet). Sorry! — K > \relative { > \alterBroken #'padding #'(1 7) Staff.OttavaBracket > \ottava 1 c''''1 \break > c2 2 > }

Re: Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Knute, > I have a situation where I need to adjust the padding of an ottava > bracket after a line break. That is, I want to affect the bracket on > the second line, but not the first. Does \afterBreak not work with OttavaBracket.padding? \relative { \alterBroken #'

Tweaking an ottava bracket after a break

2021-11-06 Thread Knute Snortum
Hello again, I have a situation where I need to adjust the padding of an ottava bracket after a line break. That is, I want to affect the bracket on the second line, but not the first. I know you can do something like this with the \shape function, but what about brackets? I tried this solution

Re: another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-02 Thread David Wright
isely what this arranger is doing, I > > > could just enter the pitches as written and just place a note to > > > instruct the performer to do the ottava manually, correct? > > > > Sure. And if you would prefer to enter > > the pitches as souding, you could keep > &

Re: another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-01 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
itten and just place a note to > > instruct the performer to do the ottava manually, correct? > > > > Thanks, > > Ken > > Sure. And if you would prefer to enter > the pitches as souding, you could keep > \ottava and add > >\omit Staff.OttavaBracket > > Best, > Jean

Re: another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-01 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 02/11/2021 à 00:08, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : That helps explain it! Thanks! But if I wanted to reproduce precisely what this arranger is doing, I could just enter the pitches as written and just place a note to instruct the performer to do the ottava manually, correct? Thanks, Ken Sure

Re: how to force the placement of the ottava bracket to be below the notes?

2021-11-01 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
t;I now have the attava bracket beneath the notes using " \override > > Staff.OttavaBracket.direction = #DOWN" > > > >BTW, I'm looking at the NR for 2.22.1 and I see "ottava #X" where, > > apparently the "#" is no longer needed. >

Re: another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-01 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
That helps explain it! Thanks! But if I wanted to reproduce precisely what this arranger is doing, I could just enter the pitches as written and just place a note to instruct the performer to do the ottava manually, correct? Thanks, Ken On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 3:57 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote

Re: how to force the placement of the ottava bracket to be below the notes?

2021-11-01 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 02/11/2021 à 00:00, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : Hi Jean; Thanks for the tip. I'm using Lilypond 2.22.1. I now have the attava bracket beneath the notes using " \override Staff.OttavaBracket.direction = #DOWN" BTW, I'm looking at the NR for 2.22.1 and I s

Re: how to force the placement of the ottava bracket to be below the notes?

2021-11-01 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi Jean; Thanks for the tip. I'm using Lilypond 2.22.1. I now have the attava bracket beneath the notes using " \override Staff.OttavaBracket.direction = #DOWN" BTW, I'm looking at the NR for 2.22.1 and I see "ottava #X" where, apparently the "#"

Re: another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-01 Thread Jean Abou Samra
ival of the Animals", by Saint-Saens. It is not long and it is simple. Perhaps I'm doing something really stupid... You're trying to enter the pitches as if the ottava were not there, and add the ottava to make them sound and read one octave lower. Just like with accidentals, LilyPo

Re: another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
by an octave. But when you entered the pitches, you didn't lower them by an octave to the sounding pitch, you entered them at the staff position pitch. Thus, when you lowered the staff by an octave with \ottava, the pitches shifted up by an octave on the staff. TLDR; Your pitches are an octave too high. Carl

Re: how to force the placement of the ottava bracket to be below the notes?

2021-11-01 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 01/11/2021 à 23:20, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : How to force the placement of the ottava bracket to be below the notes? (or above?) Below: just \override the direction. Above: prior to version 2.23.3, you had to use the lesser known \overrideProperty (see https://gitlab.com/lilypond

Re: another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-01 Thread Carl Sorensen
Ken, Please show an example. I assume you are using it wrong. Always enter the sounding pitch in lilypond. In the Notation Reference, they are showing you that if you don't change the pitch, an add an ottava, the note will displace in the opposite direction of the ottava bracket, becaus

how to force the placement of the ottava bracket to be below the notes?

2021-11-01 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi; How to force the placement of the ottava bracket to be below the notes? (or above?) Thanks, Ken Wolcott

Re: another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Ken, > another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches? > > If the purpose of the ottava is to make it easier for the > publisher/engraver/typesetter/performer to read the notes within the > staff rather than lots of ledger lines above or below the st

another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches?

2021-11-01 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi again; another question regarding ottava: why does Lilypond change the pitches? If the purpose of the ottava is to make it easier for the publisher/engraver/typesetter/performer to read the notes within the staff rather than lots of ledger lines above or below the staff, then why does

Re: how to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes?

2021-08-11 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Thanks, Jean; I'll continue to experiment. On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 3:13 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le 12/08/2021 à 00:11, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : > > Sorry, did not reply-all :-( > > > > No, I did not upgrade. I thought you stated that I had two choices: > > one command that would work with

Re: how to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes?

2021-08-11 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 12/08/2021 à 00:11, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : Sorry, did not reply-all :-( No, I did not upgrade. I thought you stated that I had two choices: one command that would work with 2.33 and the other one which will work with 2.23. Yes (but I think you meant 2.22, not 2.33). \overrideProperty wil

Re: how to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes?

2021-08-11 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Sorry, did not reply-all :-( No, I did not upgrade. I thought you stated that I had two choices: one command that would work with 2.33 and the other one which will work with 2.23. On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 3:10 PM Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > No, I did not upgrade. I thought you stated that I had tw

Re: how to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes?

2021-08-11 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 11/08/2021 à 23:57, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : Thanks, Jean! However, I see no change in the pdf output and I get no errors or warnings. I saw this command in Notation reference, and had tried it already. I thought perhaps I had not used the correct syntax. So I tried copy&paste from your e

Re: how to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes?

2021-08-11 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
g 11, 2021 at 2:36 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le 11/08/2021 à 23:30, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : > > Hi All; > > > >I'm using Lilypond 2.22 on a Mac. > > > >How to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes in a Piano piece? > > > >T

Re: how to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes?

2021-08-11 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 11/08/2021 à 23:30, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : Hi All; I'm using Lilypond 2.22 on a Mac. How to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes in a Piano piece? The ottava bracket is not clear when placed in between the clefs; I suppose I could make it bold face... The

how to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes?

2021-08-11 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi All; I'm using Lilypond 2.22 on a Mac. How to force the ottava bracket to go above the notes in a Piano piece? The ottava bracket is not clear when placed in between the clefs; I suppose I could make it bold face... The notes are still within the treble staff. Thanks, Ken Wolcott

Re: Partial ottava sign

2021-02-19 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-02-19 5:48 pm, Andrew Bernard wrote: Acceptable to Gould or not, there are valid use cases for this (in my New Complexity stuff for one). There's a way to do it - I need to find it in my library code later today. I seem to vaguely recall there is an example in LSR? I may be wrong. Maybe

Re: Partial ottava sign

2021-02-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
02 AM: Re: Partial ottava sign Just the one chord. I'll try that unless anyone else here comes up with a better suggestion. I was really asking whether there's an accepted way of doing it.

Re: Partial ottava sign

2021-02-19 Thread Peter Toye
5:17 PM >> From: "Kieren MacMillan" >> To: "Peter Toye" >> Cc: "Lilypond-User Mailing List" >> Subject: Re: Partial ottava sign >> Hi Peter, >> > Is there an accepted way of notating an ottava sign for only part of a >> &g

Re: Partial ottava sign

2021-02-19 Thread Peter Toye
> Is there an accepted way of notating an ottava sign for only part of a >> staff? I have a two-handed chord of which the LH part needs to be an octave >> lower than notated, but the RH part is at pitch. >> I realise that this isn't really a LilyPond question but a general

Re: Partial ottava sign

2021-02-19 Thread Brian Barker
At 11:17 19/02/2021 -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: At 15:35 19/02/2021 +, Peter Toye wrote: Is there an accepted way of notating an ottava sign for only part of a staff? I have a two-handed chord of which the LH part needs to be an octave lower than notated, but the RH part is at pitch

Re: Partial ottava sign

2021-02-19 Thread Maestraccio
t; To: "Peter Toye" > Cc: "Lilypond-User Mailing List" > Subject: Re: Partial ottava sign > > Hi Peter, > > > Is there an accepted way of notating an ottava sign for only part of a > > staff? I have a two-handed chord of which the LH part needs to

Re: Partial ottava sign

2021-02-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter, > Is there an accepted way of notating an ottava sign for only part of a staff? > I have a two-handed chord of which the LH part needs to be an octave lower > than notated, but the RH part is at pitch. > > I realise that this isn't really a LilyPond question

Partial ottava sign

2021-02-19 Thread Peter Toye
Is there an accepted way of notating an ottava sign for only part of a staff? I have a two-handed chord of which the LH part needs to be an octave lower than notated, but the RH part is at pitch. I realise that this isn't really a LilyPond question but a general music engraving one (i

Re: Cross-staff ottava brackets with breaked line

2021-01-07 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Do., 7. Jan. 2021 um 18:33 Uhr schrieb Davide Parisi : > > Goodmorning, > I'm transcribing "Scarbo" from Gaspard de la Nuit with Lilypond. > There is a method for create a cross-staff ottava bracket with breaked line > like this example? > https://ibb.co/rw

Cross-staff ottava brackets with breaked line

2021-01-07 Thread Davide Parisi
Goodmorning, I'm transcribing "Scarbo" from Gaspard de la Nuit with Lilypond. There is a method for create a cross-staff ottava bracket with breaked line like this example? https://ibb.co/rwLwd19 Thanks for your attention!

Re: Collision between ottava bracket and stems in cross-staff systems

2019-12-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I think that the problem with the bracket I just described is a bug > or a feature that should be enhanced... Vertical alignment of cross-staff material is partially broken, yes, from the very beginning. Search for cross AND staff AND status:Accepted in the issue tracker. Werner

RE: Collision between ottava bracket and stems in cross-staff systems

2019-12-08 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
between ottava bracket and stems in cross-staff systems Hello Kieren, unfortunately this method is trial and error as well. In fact, I can't use the same shorten-pair value if the stem is up or down, and (maybe) if the notehead has different sizes... I think that the problem wit

Re: Collision between ottava bracket and stems in cross-staff systems

2019-12-08 Thread kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan
Hi Paolo, > unfortunately this method is trial and error as well. Not if it’s a callback function. ;) You need to write code that determines how much to shorten/extend (by referencing the width of noteheads, etc.), and automatically applies the tweak. That’s how you make it not trial-and-error.

Re: Collision between ottava bracket and stems in cross-staff systems

2019-12-08 Thread Paolo Pr
ult might > be. > > Hope that helps! > Kieren. > > > > -- Original Message -- > > From: Paolo Pr > > Date: December 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM > > > > > > Hello, > > > > in cross-staff systems, I see that the ottava br

Re: Collision between ottava bracket and stems in cross-staff systems

2019-12-08 Thread kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan
M > > > Hello, >   > in cross-staff systems, I see that the ottava bracket can produce an unwanted > collision between the "8va" string and the stems. Please, look at: >   > http://lilybin.com/vf4vaj/1 >   > Is there a way to automatically avoid that, without using t

Re: Collision between ottava bracket and stems in cross-staff systems

2019-12-08 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-12-08 3:40 pm, Paolo Pr wrote: Hello, in cross-staff systems, I see that the ottava bracket can produce an unwanted collision between the "8va" string and the stems. Please, look at: http://lilybin.com/vf4vaj/1 Is there a way to automatically avoid that, without using the

Collision between ottava bracket and stems in cross-staff systems

2019-12-08 Thread Paolo Pr
Hello, in cross-staff systems, I see that the ottava bracket can produce an unwanted collision between the "8va" string and the stems. Please, look at: http://lilybin.com/vf4vaj/1 Is there a way to automatically avoid that, without using the trial-and-error method for adjusting the

Re: question about ottava spanner

2019-11-30 Thread Jinsong Zhao
On 2019/11/30 18:56, Thomas Morley wrote: Am Sa., 30. Nov. 2019 um 02:19 Uhr schrieb Jinsong Zhao : On 2019/11/30 2:23, Thomas Morley wrote: \ottava works for Staff. You told LilyPond to write your entered Staff-input one octave below. Thus the OttavaBracket _needs_ to span the upper

Re: question about ottava spanner

2019-11-30 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 30. Nov. 2019 um 02:19 Uhr schrieb Jinsong Zhao : > > On 2019/11/30 2:23, Thomas Morley wrote: > > > > \ottava works for Staff. You told LilyPond to write your entered > > Staff-input one octave below. Thus the OttavaBracket _needs_ to span > > the upper Vo

Re: question about ottava spanner

2019-11-29 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Jinsong. In the Notation Reference manual (NR). It's complete. But its not a ordered alphabetical list of commands. It's arranged by topic, with extensive explanatory material. There is also an alphabetical index. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/index.html You can

Re: question about ottava spanner

2019-11-29 Thread Jinsong Zhao
On 2019/11/30 2:23, Thomas Morley wrote: \ottava works for Staff. You told LilyPond to write your entered Staff-input one octave below. Thus the OttavaBracket _needs_ to span the upper Voice (although you tweaked it's direction down) Though, I somehow doubt that's what you intended .

Re: question about ottava spanner

2019-11-29 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Fr., 29. Nov. 2019 um 18:20 Uhr schrieb Jinsong Zhao : > > Hi there, > > > > In the following MWE, you may notice that the ottava spanner have different > behavior. It may be my fault. However, I don’t know how to correct it. > > > > The first question is why t

question about ottava spanner

2019-11-29 Thread Jinsong Zhao
Hi there, In the following MWE, you may notice that the ottava spanner have different behavior. It may be my fault. However, I don’t know how to correct it. The first question is why the first ottava spanner extent to the second note? The second question is how to prevent the ottava spanner

Re: Harmonics with ottava

2019-02-07 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-02-07 3:01 am, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: Problem now is, Lily isn't avoiding collisions between the markup objects and grobs on other staves. Neither the markup nor the Staff.ottavation text block are given place, instead overlapping the voice above. How can I fix this? Do you have a MW

Re: Harmonics with ottava

2019-02-07 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
PS- also, I've made use of http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=875, which gets the notes in the correct positions. My example now looks like this: --- \version "2.19.82" \relative c, { \clef "bass_8" \textLengthOn \override Staff.NoteColumn.ignore-collision = ##t \override No

Re: Harmonics with ottava

2019-02-07 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi Andrew On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 11:51 AM Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hello Andrew, > > Why are quartertones technically wrong? > Quartertones are wrong for harmonics (especially "natural" ones), because neither the finger position nor the resultant pitch are equivalent to equal-tempered quarterton

Re: Harmonics with ottava

2019-02-07 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Andrew, Why are quartertones technically wrong? My current string quartet is full of them. String players can do them just fine. Andrew On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 21:46, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: > > (And yes, I know quartertones are technically wrong. > __

Harmonics with ottava

2019-02-07 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
h^\markup { \right-align "Sul D" }--\harmonic } \\ { \oneVoice \tiny \override Stem.stencil = ##f \override Flag.stencil = ##f \override ParenthesesItem.font-size = #0 { \ottava #1 < \parenthesize ceh'''>4 s } } >

Re: add vertical space to ottava

2018-10-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Ryan, >> I simply want to increase the vertical space between the ottava in the other >> elements. How do I accomplish this? > \override Staff.OttavaBracket.extra-offset = #'(0 . 2) I always reserve extra-offset for the very last resort, because it doesn’t inter

Re: add vertical space to ottava

2018-09-28 Thread Ben
On 9/28/2018 12:17 PM, Ryan Michael wrote: Hello, So I know how to change the priority of the ottava such that it appears on the outside of other elements of the system. However, in my case, I simply want to increase the vertical space between the ottava in the other elements. How do I

add vertical space to ottava

2018-09-28 Thread Ryan Michael
Hello, So I know how to change the priority of the ottava such that it appears on the outside of other elements of the system. However, in my case, I simply want to increase the vertical space between the ottava in the other elements. How do I accomplish this? I have tried something like

Re: how to whiteout an ottava bracket

2018-09-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
2" rD = { \change Staff = right \stemDown } lU = { \change Staff = left \stemUp } right = \relative b'''' {   \ottava 2 b8 \lU   \once\override Stem.layer = -1   \once\override Stem.whiteout = #1   a, \rD b' \lU g, \rD b' \lU f, \rD b' \lU e,, } left = {   \overr

Re: how to whiteout an ottava bracket

2018-08-21 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Yes you can... probably. Anyway, it's not the finest idea. Please consider the following code: \version "2.18.2" rD = { \change Staff = right \stemDown } lU = { \change Staff = left \stemUp } right = \relative b'''' { \ottava 2 b8 \lU \once\override Stem.la

Re: how to whiteout an ottava bracket

2018-08-21 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Pierre, thanks for Your answer. Can I also achieve the opposite? Can the stem whiteout the ottava-bracket? Am Di., 21. Aug. 2018 um 18:31 Uhr schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider < pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>: > Hi Stefan, > > How about: > > \version "2.18.2"

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