the misalignment issue, even
for whole notes (complete) and half notes (incomplete) when they are repeated
enough times.
Surveying the LilyPond’s documentation page:
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/proportional-notation#:~:text=LilyPond%20supports%20proportional%20notation
Hi all,
I want to align several small scores in a grid for processing with a
laser cutter, while maintaining proportional spacing.
This works well for whole notes and half notes, for quarter notes,
however, the staff symbols seem to be a bit longer
(while occupying the same duration).
Please s
Hi LilyPonders,
I would like to notate a piece proportionally. To do this, I have created
(with a little help) a markup command that I can use to place time
signatures above the bar lines. But as soon as I do this, they move to the
left, whereas the bar lines are in the right place if I don't use
> Thank you sooo much for your answer!
> That’s amazing, it’s really clear and I’ll take a deep look at it!
> What is MusicSE? I cannot find anything on google. Can u point me out
to the > reference u said?
> Cheers!
As Jean said it is the music stackexchange thing. You’ve accidently replied
t
Hello,
this was also posted on MusicSE, for reference here my reply:
You are not getting some barlines as
s1^"text" \bar "!"
will insert the bar line after the skip, which is in your case in a random
position later. Rather do
\bar "!" s1^"text"
to have the bar line at the exact posit
Hello,
A while back, I reached out to this mailing list seeking assistance in building
a Csound to LilyPond converter. What I had in mind was a tool to enhance the
readability and presentation of Csound scores using LilyPond.
For context, the Csound score format I'm working with is relatively
On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 10:51 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> engrave. I disagree with one of his major concepts, which is that
> the
> bars should be 3.0 cm wide and represent one second of music. He's
> really insistent on this. Personally I don't believe this helps the
> musicians at all, and mu
eally insistent on this. Personally I don't believe this helps the
> musicians at all, and music is not graph paper as far as I am concerned,
> speaking as a player.
>
> I have tried for years to make equal, fixed width bars with proportional
> notation in Lilypond. With his musi
Hi Andrew,
> With his music changing time signature sometimes every bar, I am utterly
> unable to achieve what he wants. The requirement is simple - fixed width bars
> of a specified size.
Does the fixed width include all prefatory material? e.g., if a measure
included a TimeSignature and a Ke
helps the
musicians at all, and music is not graph paper as far as I am concerned,
speaking as a player.
I have tried for years to make equal, fixed width bars with proportional
notation in Lilypond. With his music changing time signature sometimes
every bar, I am utterly unable to achieve what he
ying to control measure width using proportional spacing. And
> it's not working as expected.
>
> I created a kind of "into/out of" proportional notation wrapper:
>
> ePUT =
> #(define-music-function
> (parser location num music)
> (number? ly:music?)
>
Dear list,
I'm trying to control measure width using proportional spacing. And
it's not working as expected.
I created a kind of "into/out of" proportional notation wrapper:
ePUT =
#(define-music-function
(parser location num music)
(number
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:41 AM, David Nalesnik
wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:19 AM, David Nalesnik
> wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:15 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
>>> David Nalesnik writes:
>>>
Oh, there's some extra code. I decided to use a flag to avoid
r
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:19 AM, David Nalesnik
wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:15 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
>> David Nalesnik writes:
>>
>>> Oh, there's some extra code. I decided to use a flag to avoid
>>> redundant calculations, but didn't follow through.
Speaking of redun
Hi again,
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:15 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
> David Nalesnik writes:
>
>> Oh, there's some extra code. I decided to use a flag to avoid
>> redundant calculations, but didn't follow through. The music function
>> should read
>>
>> spaceStemsEvenly =
>> #(define-music-functi
David Nalesnik writes:
> Oh, there's some extra code. I decided to use a flag to avoid
> redundant calculations, but didn't follow through. The music function
> should read
>
> spaceStemsEvenly =
> #(define-music-function (mus) (ly:music?)
>#{
> \override NoteColumn.X-offset = #space-b
gt;
>> When using proportional notation with cross staff beamed groups, it looks
>> vastly better if the stems are evenly spaced, but proportional notation
>> messes this up, and only in the cross staff situation.
>>
>> I have tried using \newSpacing section in my scores and I
Hi Andrew,
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Andrew Bernard
wrote:
> This issue has dogged me for a long time, and searching the archives does
> not produce a reliable answer as far as I can see.
>
> When using proportional notation with cross staff beamed groups, it looks
> vastl
This issue has dogged me for a long time, and searching the archives does
not produce a reliable answer as far as I can see.
When using proportional notation with cross staff beamed groups, it looks
vastly better if the stems are evenly spaced, but proportional notation
messes this up, and only
On 22.09.2015 01:12, Neil Thornock wrote:
Thanks Simon. Sample code:
\transpose c c' { << {
16 q q q q q q q q q q q \times 2/3 { q8 q q }
} \\ {
\times 2/3 { des'4 des'8 } \times 2/3 { b8\rest 8 q }
\times 2/3 { q q q } q q
} >> }
Simple solution: Use two staves. Though I’m pretty
and the accidentals of the note
group in question. I tried using proportional notation on the example, but for
me, it never really gets these issues right, no matter what duration you choose
for the moment. Lilypond is so skilful at avoiding collisions that it always
seems difficult to get it to
On 22.09.2015 00:51, Neil Thornock wrote:
>>
>>> See the two attached images for my problem spot.
>>>
>>> I'd like something more like the Finale output, but no matter what
>>> combination of proportional notation options I try, it won't budge. It
Am 22.09.2015 um 01:12 schrieb Neil Thornock:
> Thanks Simon. Sample code:
>
> \transpose c c' { << {
> 16 q q q q q q q q q q q \times 2/3 { q8 q q }
> } \\ {
> \times 2/3 { des'4 des'8 } \times 2/3 { b8\rest 8 q }
> \times 2/3 { q q q } q q
> } >> }
>
\override LedgerLineSpanner.leng
2.09.2015 00:51, Neil Thornock wrote:
>
>> See the two attached images for my problem spot.
>>
>> I'd like something more like the Finale output, but no matter what
>> combination of proportional notation options I try, it won't budge. It
>> seems like t
Am 22.09.2015 um 00:51 schrieb Neil Thornock:
> See the two attached images for my problem spot.
>
> I'd like something more like the Finale output, but no matter what
> combination of proportional notation options I try, it won't budge. It
> seems like the ledger lines
On 22.09.2015 00:51, Neil Thornock wrote:
See the two attached images for my problem spot.
I'd like something more like the Finale output, but no matter what
combination of proportional notation options I try, it won't budge. It
seems like the ledger lines are too greedy.
Also,
See the two attached images for my problem spot.
I'd like something more like the Finale output, but no matter what
combination of proportional notation options I try, it won't budge. It
seems like the ledger lines are too greedy.
Also, I have no idea how to get the flats in the lowe
Peter:
> Thanks for your reaction.
> I could not open the miditoly.pl file.
You don't open it, save it somewhere and then run it from the command
line (to run it you need a perl interpreter).
> but that is no problem. At first I
> will try the conversion with LilyPond. If that doesn't work (good
> proportional (spacial) notated score with LilyPond? In other words: can
> LilyPond calculate the right spaces between the notes based on timing in a
> MIDI file?
>
>
> You have to convert the MIDI to a lilypond file first, then you can read
> this page:
> http://lilypond.or
Hello Karl,
Thanks for your reaction.
I could not open the miditoly.pl file. but that is no problem. At first I
will try the conversion with LilyPond. If that doesn't work (good enough)
I'll try your program and ask you again.
Peter
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neither program is perfect, my program is more to the experimental
variety. If you need help with the conversion, feel free to ask for more
help.
> then you can read this page:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documen
in a
MIDI file?
You have to convert the MIDI to a lilypond file first, then you can
read this page:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/proportional-notation
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Hi,
Does anyone know if it is possible to convert a MIDI file to an
proportional (spacial) notated score with LilyPond? In other words: can
LilyPond calculate the right spaces between the notes based on timing in a
MIDI file?
I have no experience with LilyPond yet, and wonder if it is worthwile
n!
Take care,
Gilberto
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will give it a try and see how it goes.
Thanks a lot for your reply, take care!
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Am 14.01.2015 um 21:35 schrieb Gilberto Agostinho:
Hello LilyPonders,
I composed my first piece in proportional notation using a constant
measurement of 1 second per bar (thus, each bar must always have the same
length throughout the whole score). The notes consist of noteheads only, no
flags
Hello LilyPonders,
I composed my first piece in proportional notation using a constant
measurement of 1 second per bar (thus, each bar must always have the same
length throughout the whole score). The notes consist of noteheads only, no
flags, no beams, no stems, so the only reference for the
Mike Solomon wrote:
On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:08 PM, PMA wrote:
PMA wrote:
Thomas Morley wrote:
2014-07-09 0:24 GMT+02:00 PMA:
Hi List.
I'm looking for a LilyPond way to specify note duration
in a Proportional Notation context using exactly _one_
stemless notehead type.
Perhaps the
On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:08 PM, PMA wrote:
> PMA wrote:
>> Thomas Morley wrote:
>>> 2014-07-09 0:24 GMT+02:00 PMA:
>>>> Hi List.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a LilyPond way to specify note duration
>>>> in a Propor
PMA wrote:
Thomas Morley wrote:
2014-07-09 0:24 GMT+02:00 PMA:
Hi List.
I'm looking for a LilyPond way to specify note duration
in a Proportional Notation context using exactly _one_
stemless notehead type.
Perhaps the first option is a mid-level horizontal line
extending distance-X fro
2014-07-09 0:24 GMT+02:00 PMA :
> Hi List.
>
> I'm looking for a LilyPond way to specify note duration
> in a Proportional Notation context using exactly _one_
> stemless notehead type.
>
> Perhaps the first option is a mid-level horizontal line
> extending distan
Thomas Morley wrote:
2014-07-09 0:24 GMT+02:00 PMA:
Hi List.
I'm looking for a LilyPond way to specify note duration
in a Proportional Notation context using exactly _one_
stemless notehead type.
Perhaps the first option is a mid-level horizontal line
extending distance-X from the not
Hi List.
I'm looking for a LilyPond way to specify note duration
in a Proportional Notation context using exactly _one_
stemless notehead type.
Perhaps the first option is a mid-level horizontal line
extending distance-X from the notehead. (The space
following would indicate silence.)
t: Re: allowing any horizontal collision in proportional
> notation
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Do you still want legible accidentals? In that case, you might just invent
> an alternate
, Michael Winter
wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> It seems that with proportional notation even strict spanning does not
> allow collisions of notehead and accidentals. Is it possible to allow any
> collision such that the resolution and accuracy are exact no matter what?
> Or maybe I am
Dear All,
It seems that with proportional notation even strict spanning does not allow
collisions of notehead and accidentals. Is it possible to allow any collision
such that the resolution and accuracy are exact no matter what? Or maybe I am
missing something
Many thanks in advance
Dear All,
It seems that with proportional notation even strict spanning does not allow
collisions of notehead and accidentals. Is it possible to allow any collision
such that the resolution and accuracy are exact no matter what? Or maybe I am
missing something
Many thanks in advance
2008/12/21 Rob Canning :
> Brett Duncan wrote:
>>
>> Rob Canning wrote:
>>>
>>> i was trying to do it with sed with a line like this:
>>>
>>> sed 's/~/\\glissando/' header-inserted > ties-fixed;
>>>
>>> but ran into trouble with all the ^ sybols and so on -
>>
>> I tried this myself and it seems t
Brett Duncan wrote:
Rob Canning wrote:
i was trying to do it with sed with a line like this:
sed 's/~/\\glissando/' header-inserted > ties-fixed;
but ran into trouble with all the ^ sybols and so on -
I tried this myself and it seems to work fine once add the 'g' flag:
's/~/\\glissando/g'
Rob Canning wrote:
i was trying to do it with sed with a line like this:
sed 's/~/\\glissando/' header-inserted > ties-fixed;
but ran into trouble with all the ^ sybols and so on -
I tried this myself and it seems to work fine once add the 'g' flag:
's/~/\\glissando/g'
However, horizontal
2008/12/19 Rob Canning :
>
> on its own this works fine but if i combine it with somthing else it fails -
> not sure what i am doing wrong here...
Hmm, it doesn't work with broken ties, since the left-broken part is
attached to a paper column rather than a notehead (you can't retrieve
a value for
This is the easiest way to do it, assuming you don't have any tied chords:
\override TieColumn #'tie-configuration =
#(lambda (grob)
(let* ((notehead (ly:grob-parent grob X))
(y-off (* 2 (ly:grob-property notehead 'Y-offset
(list (cons y-off 0
thanks neil
Hi Rob,
2008/12/18 Rob Canning :
> ok so i have flattened the tie with:
>
> \override Tie #'details #'height-limit = #0
>
> next i want to make sure all the ties start emerging from the actual note so
> there is no vertical offset
>
> i looked here for other tweekables:
> /usr/local/lilypond/usr/s
ok so i have flattened the tie with:
\override Tie #'details #'height-limit = #0
next i want to make sure all the ties start emerging from the actual
note so there is no vertical offset
i looked here for other tweekables:
/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/define-grobs.scm
an
2008/12/18 Rob Canning :
> strange this doesnt seem to make any difference here - no doubt i have it in
> the wrong place in the code or some such - i tried it in a few places but no
> luck
Apart from my useless typing, if it still doesn't work you must be
using a version before 2.11.65 with the
Neil Puttock wrote:
Hi Rob,
hi
thanks for the response,
2008/12/18 Rob Canning :
hello,
i would like to replace ties between notes with a line connecting note
heads. i'm not sure how to go about this. should i try and flatten the curve
of the tie, make it slightly thicker and change its re
Neil Puttock wrote:
Hi Rob,
hi
thanks for the response,
2008/12/18 Rob Canning :
hello,
i would like to replace ties between notes with a line connecting note
heads. i'm not sure how to go about this. should i try and flatten the curve
of the tie, make it slightly thicker and change its rel
Hi Rob,
2008/12/18 Rob Canning :
> hello,
>
> i would like to replace ties between notes with a line connecting note
> heads. i'm not sure how to go about this. should i try and flatten the curve
> of the tie, make it slightly thicker and change its relative possition to
> the notehead or is there
hello,
i would like to replace ties between notes with a line connecting note
heads. i'm not sure how to go about this. should i try and flatten the
curve of the tie, make it slightly thicker and change its relative
possition to the notehead or is there a better way.
is there some sort of glob
;uniform-stretching = ##t
> gives no errors.
>
> So at this point we have a compromise between being able to have grace (or
> afterGrace) notes on line breaks and having strict-note-spacing in
> proportional notation.
>
> So the following compiles correctly:
>
> %%
or
afterGrace) notes on line breaks and having strict-note-spacing in
proportional notation.
So the following compiles correctly:
%% START
\version "2.11.64"
\include "english.ly"
\layout{
\context{ \Score
proportionalNotationDuration
l examples generating the errors. I
>> searched the mailing lists for solutions to this, but I found no posts of
>> this specific problem, so I guess this is new.
>>
>> The problem seems to be occur when combining three things:
>> 1. proportional notation:
>>
r of minimal examples generating the errors. I
> searched the mailing lists for solutions to this, but I found no posts of
> this specific problem, so I guess this is new.
>
> The problem seems to be occur when combining three things:
> 1. proportional notation:
> proportionalN
found no posts of
this specific problem, so I guess this is new.
The problem seems to be occur when combining three things:
1. proportional notation:
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 34)
\override SpacingSpanner #'strict-note-spacing =##t
2. \grace or \afterGrace no
Rob
There is quite a bit on proportional notation in the 2.11 Reference Manual,
but you may have missed it as I don't think this section has been indexed
yet. See section 4.5.5 Proportional notation.
Trevor
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECT
hi,
i've just been looking at the threads on proportional notation
(time-space notation)
and found these:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg35955.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg35775.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Stephen Lavelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A big problem that several people I know have had with finale and the like
> is that of implementing time-space notation.
>
> The proportional notation setting in lilypond is close to this, but has
A big problem that several people I know have had with finale and the like
is that of implementing time-space notation.
The proportional notation setting in lilypond is close to this, but has the
problem for people who want to use time-space notation that it only works on
a bar-by-bar basis, when
;32 c'32 c'32 ] } c'8 c'8 c'8 ]
c'8 [ \afterGrace c'8 { c'32 [ c'32 c'32 c'32 ] } c'8 c'8 ]
c'8 [ c'8 \afterGrace c'8 { c'32 [ c'32 c'32 c'32 ] } c'8 ]
c'8 [ c'8 c'8 \afterG
On 12/3/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Trevor Bača escreveu:
> 2. There is a bug with proportional not dealing with skips correctly.
> Proportional notation handles notes and rests correctly. But
> proportional notation freaks out with skips. I noticed this some
Trevor Bača escreveu:
> On 12/3/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Trevor Bača escreveu:
>> > 2. There is a bug with proportional not dealing with skips correctly.
>> > Proportional notation handles notes and rests correctly. But
>> > prop
Hi Trevor,
thanks for the reply. When the piece is done it can be used for
documentation.
True proportional notation isn't exactly what I need and is far from
desirable as the accidentals would always collide with barlines etc.
I made much better experiences with shifting or removing
On 12/3/06, Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Trevor, Han-Wen,
thanks a lot for your efforts to help me out and thanks a lot for your
ideas and thoughts! Sorry if I sounded desperate. Trevor's post seems
to indicate that it might not work out to get everything perfectly
aligned (altho
lets you reset the spacing-increment attribute.
(Normally you can only set SpacingSpanner attributes once in a piece;
the \newSpacingSection command is the way around this previous
restriction.)
I haven't played wtih spacing-increment much, but it seems like
spacing-increment = #2 is the basi
On 12/3/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Trevor Bača escreveu:
> 2. There is a bug with proportional not dealing with skips correctly.
> Proportional notation handles notes and rests correctly. But
> proportional notation freaks out with skips. I noticed this some
Orm Finnendahl escreveu:
> Hi Trevor, Han-Wen,
>
> thanks a lot for your efforts to help me out and thanks a lot for your
> ideas and thoughts! Sorry if I sounded desperate. Trevor's post seems
> to indicate that it might not work out to get everything perfectly
> aligned (although I was very clos
Hi Trevor, Han-Wen,
thanks a lot for your efforts to help me out and thanks a lot for your
ideas and thoughts! Sorry if I sounded desperate. Trevor's post seems
to indicate that it might not work out to get everything perfectly
aligned (although I was very close for the first three lines before
th
Trevor Bača escreveu:
> 2. There is a bug with proportional not dealing with skips correctly.
> Proportional notation handles notes and rests correctly. But
> proportional notation freaks out with skips. I noticed this some time
> ago but haven't really drawn any special att
On 12/3/06, Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
it seems proportional notation and the spacing is more broken than I
ever expected. I'm extremely frustrated (especially after I put so
much hope into lilypond) having spent 5 days to enter 12 lines
of music and now having l
Hi,
it seems proportional notation and the spacing is more broken than I
ever expected. I'm extremely frustrated (especially after I put so
much hope into lilypond) having spent 5 days to enter 12 lines
of music and now having lost 4 hours of work trying to space 4 lines
of music correctly
Hi,
trying to convince lilypond to keep the proportional notation correct
is very time-consuming (ca. 1/2 hour for one line; sigh!). It is
especially hard to figure out, why the second value of the
ly:make-moment form sometimes has to get doubled in order to make a
bar stretch out 10% more than
On 11/6/06, Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Am 06. November 2006, 13:09 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
> Just as any other context property, you can set it with \set. Example:
>
> \relative c'{
> c d e f g f e d
> \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 64 )
gt; gives an example.
Thanks for the notice, I'll look into it. Proportional Notation in
lilypond is far from what the name suggests: The output often is a
mess (measures, which are too short (like 1/8) resulting in the
previous measure to stretch out all the way to the right margin and
such t
Am 06. November 2006, 13:09 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
> Just as any other context property, you can set it with \set. Example:
>
> \relative c'{
> c d e f g f e d
> \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 64 )
> c d e f g f e d
> \unset Score.proportionalNotation
Just as any other context property, you can set it with \set. Example:
\relative c'{
c d e f g f e d
\set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 64 )
c d e f g f e d
\unset Score.proportionalNotationDuration
c d e f g f e d
}
/Mats
Orm Finnendahl wrote:
Hi,
I would lik
Hi,
I would like to change the amount of horizontal space for a specified
duration in the middle of a line (reflecting a tempo change) globally
(without having to deal with compress music for each staff).
Is there a way to override the setting of
Score.proportionalNotationDuration on the fly, or
I don't understand exactly how the value of proportionalNotationDuration
influences
the result, but I managed to get nicely spaced notes in your example if I
- replaced the note durations c4*105 -> c4*105/840, ..., c4*420 ->
c4*420/840
(I guess you can figure out why I choose 840).
- used prop
Hello,
I'm new to lilypond, and apologize if this is a simple question. I've
searched the documentation and the online archives, and I can't seem to
figure out what the problem is. I have a piece in proportional-time
notation, yet some of the notes do not seem to be evenly spaced.
Particul
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