Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread James Harkins
David Kastrup gnu.org> writes: > > FWIW, I started out by using emacs to edit my Lilypond files, but > > found problems. Auto-indentation was hit or miss, and the > > auto-completion dictionary has some major gaps. > > Uh, it is generated from LilyPond's own source files, so you should > probabl

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
James Harkins < jamshar...@gmail.com> writes: > David Kastrup gnu.org> writes: > >> When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away.No need to reserve >> additional space for the info manual. > > Because C-x b is the most fun in the world... Uh, no? C-h i goes to info, q exits it again but

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread James Harkins
David Kastrup gnu.org> writes: > When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away.No need to reserve > additional space for the info manual. Because C-x b is the most fun in the world... Frescobaldi has a tabbed panel to the right, which displays the generated PDF by default. The other tab b

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> It would likely be worth it to have an Emacs window open just for >> reading the documentation... > > (... Good point; I'll reserve a space for it on my desktop...) :) Be sure to make yourself acquainted with info mode (in particular, the i and

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Rogers
David Kastrup writes: > It would likely be worth it to have an Emacs window open just for > reading the documentation... (... Good point; I'll reserve a space for it on my desktop...) :) -- David R ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.or

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/4/15 Peter Toye > One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the > documentation. As with all language systems,. you spend an awful lot of > time searching. Some search tips: 1. use the index of each manual and search the best keywords that come to your mind. Be aw

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Nick Payne
On 16/04/13 01:00, Paul Morris wrote: On Apr 15, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Peter Toye > wrote: One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the documentation. As with all language systems,. you spend an awful lot of time searching. I have had good lu

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away. No need to >> reserve additional space for the info manual. > > You're right - I didn't think of that, because I didn't have Emacs > when I started using Lilypond. I still haven't made the swi

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Rogers
David Kastrup writes: > When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away. No need to reserve > additional space for the info manual. You're right - I didn't think of that, because I didn't have Emacs when I started using Lilypond. I still haven't made the switch, though I would prefer to. -

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Rogers writes: > Peter Toye writes: > >> Thank you all very much for your help. It's not the most intuitive >> user interface (or should that be language?), and I've only been >> trying it out for a few hours, so I'm coming up with all sorts of >> silly issues. >> >> One problem I'm having

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread David Rogers
Peter Toye writes: > Thank you all very much for your help. It's not the most intuitive > user interface (or should that be language?), and I've only been > trying it out for a few hours, so I'm coming up with all sorts of > silly issues. > > One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find t

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Wim van Dommelen
Hi Joram, But that alone doesn't always work, some email programs jump in, they see this extra indentation and "patch" it. So when you send out a nicely fit message, my email program (standard/default Apple OS X mail) scrambles it (and if "needed" again). Not a problem for me, but as you

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Paul Morris
On Apr 15, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Peter Toye wrote: > One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the > documentation. As with all language systems,. you spend an awful lot of time > searching. I have had good luck searching the Notation Reference index page (using your br

Re: [Spam??] Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Peter Toye wrote Monday, April 15, 2013 3:48 PM > One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the > documentation. As with all language systems,. you spend an awful lot of time > searching. With well over 1000 pages I guess that's not too surprising. The index is not c

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Shane Brandes
Searching yields far more benefits than wasted time. You will tangentially touch upon all manner of other really useful abilities in Lilypond when looking for something you are after. And as Mr. Kastrup pointed out, if you simply Google something it is helpful to include the version number you are

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Noeck
> It is annoying, but part of our digital life. I don't think we will ever > get rid of this, get used to it. That's why I deviate from the usual indentation for this mailing list and put an extra space in front of the << and >> signs (or I add additional intent of one space): << \relative c

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Thank you all very much for your help. It's not the most intuitive user interface (or should that be language?), and I've only been trying it out for a few hours, so I'm coming up with all sorts of silly issues. One problem I'm having is that it's not easy to find things in the documentation. A

Re: Newbie Problems - oops spot the deliberate mistake

2013-04-15 Thread David Kastrup
"Peter Gentry" writes: > I always use R1*3/4*1 the 1 can be replaced by the number of bars rest > you want - 3/4 is the time signtaure. > > You also need \set Score.skipBars = ##t if more than one bars rest. > > R1*x/y*n is better than any rn because the whole bar rest is centered > in the bar >

RE: Newbie Problems - oops spot the deliberate mistake

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Gentry
I always use R1*3/4*1 the 1 can be replaced by the number of bars rest you want - 3/4 is the time signtaure. You also need \set Score.skipBars = ##t if more than one bars rest. R1*x/y*n is better than any rn because the whole bar rest is centered in the bar Learning Lilypond is easy at first b

RE: Newbie Problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Gentry
I always use R*3/4*1 the 1 can be replaced by the number of bars rest you want - 3/4 is the time signtaure. You also need \set Score.skipBars = ##t if more than one bars rest. R*x/y*n is better than any rn because the whole bar rest is centered in the bar Learning Lilypond is easy at first but

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Urs Liska
Am 15.04.2013 11:56, schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Newbie problems Urs, Now downloaded it, but it won't work properly - I get: Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.16.2 [Warlock1.ly]... Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. Please check path and permissions. when I try to engrave. Is this the pla

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Urs, Now downloaded it, but it won't work properly - I get: Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.16.2 [Warlock1.ly]... Could not start lilypond-windows.exe. Please check path and permissions. when I try to engrave. Is this the place to ask about Frescobaldi problems, or should I go to their mailing

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
27;ll dive that far into Microsoft and Windows 7. I was asking for documentation tweak suggestions. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: Federico Bruni ; lilypond-user Mailinglist Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Newbie probl

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Phil Holmes
2013 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Newbie problems Phil, The obvious thing would (IMHO) seem to be to add right-click menu items for .ly files. "Edit" goes to Lilypad (or Frescobaldi etc), "Engrave" goes to Lilypond. All with suitable arguments in the command lines.

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
user Mailinglist Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Newbie problems I've realised that there's a silly problem here, which isn't Lilypond's fault. One really needs two different defaults for opening a .ly file: one to edit it (Lilypad, Frescobaldi etc.) and one

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread James Harkins
Peter: R is for full measure rests. Very likely, the examples from the Learning Manual to which you refer contain shorter rests, less than a full bar's duration. For them, indeed you should use "r," which prints a normal rest symbol according to the rhythmic value. Full-bar rests should appear wit

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Wim van Dommelen
On 15 Apr 2013, at 08:09 , Thomas Scharkowski wrote: Original-Nachricht Thomas Scharkowski t-online.de> writes: ">>" (without quotes) is missing at the end of your code. It's more likely that your mail reader interpreted ">>" as a quoted line and didn't show it to you.

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Phil Holmes
Subject: Re: Newbie problems I've realised that there's a silly problem here, which isn't Lilypond's fault. One really needs two different defaults for opening a .ly file: one to edit it (Lilypad, Frescobaldi etc.) and one to engrave it (Lilypond). And Microsoft, curse th

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
I've realised that there's a silly problem here, which isn't Lilypond's fault. One really needs two different defaults for opening a .ly file: one to edit it (Lilypad, Frescobaldi etc.) and one to engrave it (Lilypond). And Microsoft, curse them, in Windows 7 and later removed the possibility fo

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Urs Liska
Am 15.04.2013 10:34, schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Newbie problems Urs, I realise that now! Thanks. Not at all! I think it's one of our tasks on this list to keep new users from giving up on LilyPond ;-) Urs Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com <http://www.p

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Thomas, I think it's there. It's not easy to distinguish between the ">>" in the Lilypond code and the ">>" in the mailing list quotes! But it now seems to be working - I'm not sure why! Don't understand your comment about "R1" - I'm following the "learning" manual which uses "r" for rests. B

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Toye
Urs, I realise that now! Thanks. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Sunday, April 14, 2013, 7:33:21 PM, you wrote: Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye: - >>BTW, I recommend using Frescobaldi instead of Lilypad: >

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Original-Nachricht Thomas Scharkowski t-online.de> writes: ">>" (without quotes) is missing at the end of your code. It's more likely that your mail reader interpreted ">>" as a quoted line and didn't show it to you. The final ">>" came through just fine for me. Hi Jam

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread James Harkins
Thomas Scharkowski t-online.de> writes: > ">>" (without quotes) is missing at the end of your code. It's more likely that your mail reader interpreted ">>" as a quoted line and didn't show it to you. The final ">>" came through just fine for me. > Also, I recommend using R1 instead of r1. Yes

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
oyed. Ok, but then it should be clearly documented. Urs > >-- >Phil Holmes > > > - Original Message - > From: Urs Liska > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 7:34 PM > Subject: Re: Newbie pro

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/4/14 Urs Liska : >>>I think that you have to associate the .ly extension with Lilypad. > > That would seem to be the case. It's the sort of thing I'd expect the > installation routine to do automatically. > > Yes, indeed. > Could someone else on Windows check this and send a bug-report if > ap

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Phil Holmes
al Message - From: Urs Liska To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Newbie problems Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye: - > Federico Bruni schrieb: >>I think that you have to associate the .ly ext

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Toye writes: >>>BTW, I recommend using Frescobaldi instead of Lilypad: >>>http://frescobaldi.org/download > > Is this the right place to be recommending a rival product? I'll have > a look. Thanks. It's not a rival product. Lilypad is just an add-on packaged with LilyPond on some operatin

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Newbie problems - > Federico Bruni schrieb: >>I think that you have to associate the .ly extension with Lilypad. That would seem to be the case. It's the sort of thing I'd expect the install

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Peter Toye: Re: Newbie problems - >>BTW, I recommend using Frescobaldi instead of Lilypad: >>http://frescobaldi.org/download Is this the right place to be recommending a rival product? I'll have a look. Thanks. It'

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hi Peter, ">>" (without quotes) is missing at the end of your code. Also, I recommend using R1 instead of r1. Thomas Original-Nachricht - Sunday, April 14, 2013, 1:44:33 PM, you wrote: Federico Bruni schrieb: 2013/4/14 Peter Toye Just

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Toye
- Sunday, April 14, 2013, 1:44:33 PM, you wrote: > Federico Bruni schrieb: >>2013/4/14 Peter Toye >> >>> Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in >>getting >>> to work at all. >>> >>> The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. >>> >>>

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
Federico Bruni schrieb: >2013/4/14 Peter Toye > >> Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in >getting >> to work at all. >> >> The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. >> >> >which version of lilypond? > > >> 1) Double-clicking on a .ly file gets into Wordpa

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Urs Liska
Federico Bruni schrieb: >2013/4/14 Peter Toye > >> Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in >getting >> to work at all. >> >> The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. >> >> >which version of lilypond? > > >> 1) Double-clicking on a .ly file gets into Wordpa

Re: Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/4/14 Peter Toye > Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in getting > to work at all. > > The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. > > which version of lilypond? > 1) Double-clicking on a .ly file gets into Wordpad, and doesn't compile > the file. To compi

Newbie problems

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Toye
Just starting to try out Lilypond, and finding a few problems in getting to work at all. The OS is Windows 7, if that makes any difference. 1) Double-clicking on a .ly file gets into Wordpad, and doesn't compile the file. To compile it I have to drag-and-drop the file onto the Lilypond icon on

Re: Newbie problems with chordnames

2004-06-10 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Wolfgang Mechsner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 1. In a piano score I would like to have the chordnames above the > staff not below the staff. > > 2. I have no success with > >\set ChordNames.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(0 . 0) (tried out many numbers) > > to change the space of the chordname

RE: Newbie problems with chordnames

2004-06-08 Thread Wolfgang Mechsner
Thank you, everything works now. Wolfgang On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Bertalan Fodor wrote: > Doesn't this work? > > \score { > << > \new ChordNames \chords { c:1 } > \new PianoStaff << > \new Staff \notes { c } > \new Staff \notes { c } > >> > >

RE: Newbie problems with chordnames

2004-06-08 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Doesn't this work? \score { << \new ChordNames \chords { c:1 } \new PianoStaff << \new Staff \notes { c } \new Staff \notes { c } >> >> } Or do you mean between the staves? > 1. In a piano score I would like to have the c

Newbie problems with chordnames

2004-06-08 Thread Wolfgang Mechsner
1. In a piano score I would like to have the chordnames above the staff not below the staff. 2. I have no success with \set ChordNames.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(0 . 0) (tried out many numbers) to change the space of the chordnames to the staff. Wolfgang -- URL www.wolfgang-mechsner.de