Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-06 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
> make a build > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jonas Hahnfeld" < > hah...@hahnjo.de > > > To: "Han-Wen Nienhuys" < > hanw...@gmail.com > > > Cc: "David Kastrup" < > d...@gnu.org > &g

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-05 Thread Phil Holmes
t; Cc: "David Kastrup" ; "lilypond-devel" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 6:54 PM Subject: Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-05 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Donnerstag, den 05.03.2020, 19:50 +0100 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:16 PM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: > > > * I'd base it off Git commits rather than tarballs. The tarballs are > > > anachronistic, and with git commits, it will be easier to build binaries > > > for pe

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:16 PM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: > > * I'd base it off Git commits rather than tarballs. The tarballs are > anachronistic, and with git commits, it will be easier to build binaries > for pending changes (to make sure they don't break the process). > > Nope, I'm not a huge fan

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-05 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Donnerstag, den 05.03.2020, 11:45 +0100 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: > > The basic idea is to produce native binaries with all dependencies > > compiled as static libraries, with dependencies only on the most basic > > I applaud that, but I r

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 04.03.2020, 09:34 +0100 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 3:12 PM Jonas Hahnfeld < > > hah...@hahnjo.de > > > wrote: > > > For example, I'd very much like #5799 to be part of 2.21.0 to be able > > > to cros

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-04 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Mittwoch, den 04.03.2020, 09:34 +0100 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 3:12 PM Jonas Hahnfeld < > hah...@hahnjo.de > > wrote: > > For example, I'd very much like #5799 to be part of 2.21.0 to be able > > to cross-compile to x86_64-w64-mingw32 and show-case a replacement for > >

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 3:12 PM Jonas Hahnfeld wrote: > For example, I'd very much like #5799 to be part of 2.21.0 to be able > to cross-compile to x86_64-w64-mingw32 and show-case a replacement for > GUB. However I acknowledge that the changes have at least the potential > to break the current pro

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-02 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Sure, the solution is to apply #5799. Turns out the solution is not > only for x86_64-w64-mingw32 but also for 32 bit mingw that GUB > uses. So I'm arguing that it should go in before 2.21.0 is cut. Well, the rationale for being conservative with new patches is so that w

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-02 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Montag, den 02.03.2020, 19:38 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > Jonas Hahnfeld < > hah...@hahnjo.de > > writes: > > > Am Montag, den 02.03.2020, 10:48 +0100 schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld: > > > Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2020, 15:39 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > > > > But fortunately, we are now at the point

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-02 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Montag, den 02.03.2020, 10:48 +0100 schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld: >> Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2020, 15:39 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: >> > >> > But fortunately, we are now at the point where 2.20 _and_ 2.21 are going >> > to be a thing rather soon. Assuming that things like

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-02 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Montag, den 02.03.2020, 10:48 +0100 schrieb Jonas Hahnfeld: > Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2020, 15:39 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > > > > But fortunately, we are now at the point where 2.20 _and_ 2.21 are going > > to be a thing rather soon. Assuming that things like the Python3 > > migration don't

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-02 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2020, 15:39 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > > But fortunately, we are now at the point where 2.20 _and_ 2.21 are going > to be a thing rather soon. Assuming that things like the Python3 > migration don't cause more of a standstill for 2.21.0 than we imagine, > but then one ca

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-01 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > could you maybe flag those patches under review that you think should > not go in? I guess everybody considers the own changes to be > "important", so I'm not 100% sure which patches fall under that > category. "Important" is absolutely no criterion. It has been easy to

Re: 2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-01 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Hi David, Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2020, 14:28 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > Recently I asked the list to consider not putting any changes in master > right now where we'd like to be able to figure out whether they are > "introduced after 2.21.0" or not. At least with regard to build system > chang

2.21.0 release plans and considerations

2020-03-01 Thread David Kastrup
Recently I asked the list to consider not putting any changes in master right now where we'd like to be able to figure out whether they are "introduced after 2.21.0" or not. At least with regard to build system changes but likely also some other ones, it's probably safe to say that this ship has

Re: 2.20.0 release coordination with translation, also Germans? (was: [translations] 2.20 and 2.21 release plans)

2020-02-20 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 20 feb 2020 alle 14:06, David Kastrup ha scritto: In unrelated news, I tried my hand at translating at least the Changes file into German and am about 50% done. Anybody want to work from the bottom so that we should coordinate in order to avoid duplicate effort? I got kind of a h

2.20.0 release coordination with translation, also Germans? (was: [translations] 2.20 and 2.21 release plans)

2020-02-20 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni writes: > Il giorno lun 17 feb 2020 alle 22:49, Federico Bruni > ha scritto: >> I'm working on the italian update and I hope to be ready before >> Thursday night. >> > > Can we have one day delay? So deadline to push to translation branch > by Friday night? > I guess I won't ha

Re: [translations] 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-20 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno lun 17 feb 2020 alle 22:49, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Il giorno lun 17 feb 2020 alle 22:35, David Kastrup ha scritto: Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: Le 17/02/2020 à 13:25, David Kastrup a écrit : Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the end

Re: 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am Montag, den 17.02.2020, 13:25 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the >> end >> of this week. > > This is really great news! > I'm somewhat undecided whether it is a cause for celebration or not to > finally rele

Re: 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread Urs Liska
Am Montag, den 17.02.2020, 13:25 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the > end > of this week. This is really great news! I'm somewhat undecided whether it is a cause for celebration or not to finally release a "stable" version after six

Re: [translations] 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno lun 17 feb 2020 alle 22:35, David Kastrup ha scritto: Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: Le 17/02/2020 à 13:25, David Kastrup a écrit : Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the end of this week. This leaves a few days for the translation team to ca

Re: [translations] 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: > Le 17/02/2020 à 13:25, David Kastrup a écrit : >> Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the >> end >> of this week. This leaves a few days for the translation team to catch >> up with the current state. >> In particular HINT HINT HINT i

Re: [translations] 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 17/02/2020 à 13:25, David Kastrup a écrit : Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the end of this week. This leaves a few days for the translation team to catch up with the current state. In particular HINT HINT HINT it gives the opportunity to native speakers of l

Re: 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Montag, den 17.02.2020, 14:59 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > >> Yes, GUB for 2.21.0. We don't want to have another indeterminate >> backlog on unstable releases. That means that GUB needs to get switched >> over to Python 3. > > For those following along: It's not th

Re: 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Montag, den 17.02.2020, 14:59 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > Jonas Hahnfeld < > hah...@hahnjo.de > > writes: > > > Am Montag, den 17.02.2020, 13:25 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > > > Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the end > > > of this week. This leaves a few d

Re: 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Jonas Hahnfeld writes: > Am Montag, den 17.02.2020, 13:25 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the end >> of this week. This leaves a few days for the translation team to catch >> up with the current state. > > Wohoo! > >> [...] >> >> W

Re: 2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld
Am Montag, den 17.02.2020, 13:25 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup: > Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the end > of this week. This leaves a few days for the translation team to catch > up with the current state. Wohoo! > [...] > > What does this mean for 2.21.0? I thi

2.20 and 2.21 release plans

2020-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Ok, I think 2.20 is basically done and we should push it out by the end of this week. This leaves a few days for the translation team to catch up with the current state. In particular HINT HINT HINT it gives the opportunity to native speakers of languages not as meticulously maintained as the c

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-30 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > In the CG we have nothing for patch-waiting, but just the others, > which leads me on to: > > "Patch-abandoned: the author has not responded to review comments for > a few months." > > Assuming that no one changes a patch-waiting for X weeks, how many > would it take - just throwi

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-30 Thread James
On 29/10/13 14:14, James wrote: On 29/10/13 09:19, Julien Rioux wrote: On 29/10/2013 4:43 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Julien Rioux writes: On 27/10/2013 2:09 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: That's good, but the most irritating thing about this patch is not that i have to solve merge conflicts. I'm m

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-29 Thread James
On 29/10/13 09:19, Julien Rioux wrote: On 29/10/2013 4:43 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Julien Rioux writes: On 27/10/2013 2:09 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: That's good, but the most irritating thing about this patch is not that i have to solve merge conflicts. I'm mainly irritated because a piece o

alignment patch (issue 3239) (was: 2.18 release plans (again))

2013-10-29 Thread Janek Warchoł
Ok, i said that i closed this topic, but a question was asked so just a short answer: 2013/10/29 Julien Rioux : > On 29/10/2013 4:43 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Julien Rioux writes: >> >>> On 27/10/2013 2:09 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: That's good, but the most irritating thing about th

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-29 Thread Julien Rioux
On 29/10/2013 4:43 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Julien Rioux writes: On 27/10/2013 2:09 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: That's good, but the most irritating thing about this patch is not that i have to solve merge conflicts. I'm mainly irritated because a piece of solid code (maybe it's not as solid as

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-29 Thread David Kastrup
Julien Rioux writes: > On 27/10/2013 2:09 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> That's good, but the most irritating thing about this patch is not >> that i have to solve merge conflicts. I'm mainly irritated because a >> piece of solid code (maybe it's not as solid as i think, but to know >> that i need

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-29 Thread Julien Rioux
On 27/10/2013 2:09 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: That's good, but the most irritating thing about this patch is not that i have to solve merge conflicts. I'm mainly irritated because a piece of solid code (maybe it's not as solid as i think, but to know that i need _reviews_) is laying dormant for *h

Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-28 Thread Janek Warchoł
gt; solid code is laying dormant for half a year. I am irritated because so > few people can be bothered with getting release-critical stuff under > control that the stable release of LilyPond 2.18 has been dragging on > for half a year. This thread is titled "2.18 release plans"

Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-28 Thread David Kastrup
table release of LilyPond 2.18 has been dragging on for half a year. This thread is titled "2.18 release plans" and you use it for trying to divert resources to your own priorities and complaining when people don't respond in a timely or favorable manner. For you it might feel like

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-28 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/10/27 Janek Warchoł : > That's good, but the most irritating thing about this patch is not > that i have to solve merge conflicts. I'm mainly irritated because a > piece of solid code (maybe it's not as solid as i think, but to know > that i need _reviews_) is laying dormant for *half a year*

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/10/27 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: >> So, would it be possible to get issue 3239 reviewed? It's waiting for >> half a year, and solving merge conflicts when i rebase it gets >> irritating. > > I don't tell people what they are supposed to review. Oh, really? ;-P You can tell whet

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-27 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/10/27 David Kastrup : >> Janek Warchoł writes: >> >>> 2013/10/26 David Kastrup : I've now pushed stable/2.18 and synchronized translations to it. I hereby declare the stable/2.18 branch my sole property, to be ruled over dictatorially. As long as nobo

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/10/27 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/10/26 David Kastrup : >>> I've now pushed stable/2.18 and synchronized translations to it. >>> I hereby declare the stable/2.18 branch my sole property, to be ruled >>> over dictatorially. As long as nobody else pushes to it without my

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-27 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/10/26 David Kastrup : >> I've now pushed stable/2.18 and synchronized translations to it. >> I hereby declare the stable/2.18 branch my sole property, to be ruled >> over dictatorially. As long as nobody else pushes to it without my >> permission, I pledge to keep an

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-27 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/10/26 David Kastrup : > I've now pushed stable/2.18 and synchronized translations to it. > I hereby declare the stable/2.18 branch my sole property, to be ruled > over dictatorially. As long as nobody else pushes to it without my > permission, I pledge to keep and lead it to releasable state

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread Colin Campbell
On 13-10-26 01:51 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: 2013/10/26 Trevor Daniels : Werner LEMBERG wrote Saturday, October 26, 2013 8:07 PM I've now pushed stable/2.18 and synchronized translations to it. Thanks for your hard work! Indeed! Much appreciated, David! Trevor Thanks a lot!!! Harm AO

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/10/26 Trevor Daniels : > > Werner LEMBERG wrote Saturday, October 26, 2013 8:07 PM >> >>> I've now pushed stable/2.18 and synchronized translations to it. >> >> Thanks for your hard work! > > Indeed! Much appreciated, David! > > Trevor Thanks a lot!!! Harm ___

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Saturday, October 26, 2013 8:07 PM > >> I've now pushed stable/2.18 and synchronized translations to it. > > Thanks for your hard work! Indeed! Much appreciated, David! Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.o

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I've now pushed stable/2.18 and synchronized translations to it. Thanks for your hard work! Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila writes: > 2013/10/26 David Kastrup : >> David Kastrup writes: > b) translation branch > > The translation branch will stop getting merged with master. Some > documentation changes from master might get cherry-picked into > translation (I will do that myself),

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/10/26 David Kastrup : > David Kastrup writes: b) translation branch The translation branch will stop getting merged with master. Some documentation changes from master might get cherry-picked into translation (I will do that myself), and translation will get merged >

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: > >> Le 22/10/2013 20:06, David Kastrup disait : >> >>> b) translation branch >>> >>> The translation branch will stop getting merged with master. Some >>> documentation changes from master might get cherry-picked into >>> translation (I w

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 26/10/2013 19:17, David Kastrup disait : Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: Since nothing has changed on "translation" since Monday (too many other things to deal with), I just merged _locally_ "master" into it. Would you mind me pushing this before setting the freeze? Yes, that's fine. It

Re: [translations] Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread David Kastrup
Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: > Le 22/10/2013 20:06, David Kastrup disait : > >> b) translation branch >> >> The translation branch will stop getting merged with master. Some >> documentation changes from master might get cherry-picked into >> translation (I will do that myself), and translati

Re: 2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-26 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 22/10/2013 20:06, David Kastrup disait : Ok, after looking at the current situation and the current patches in review/countdown, I've decided that I'll fork off the stable release branch 2.18 after the current batch in countdown is in master. After that point of time, I'll only cherry-pick p

2.18 release plans (again).

2013-10-22 Thread David Kastrup
Ok, after looking at the current situation and the current patches in review/countdown, I've decided that I'll fork off the stable release branch 2.18 after the current batch in countdown is in master. After that point of time, I'll only cherry-pick patches into the stable branch after having con

Re: release plans

2010-09-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:42:55AM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: > I opened both files in an editor and compared. In the english > source, I found two consecutive > @divEnd-entries at line 141 and 143. If this is intended, the > following patch does the same > for the german translation. Each @divClass{

Re: release plans

2010-09-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Graham Percival schrieb: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:59:18AM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: Graham Percival schrieb: 2) website has been switched over. At first glance, I think I can close issue 1244 now, but I want to double-check and wait for feedback. The menu bar is misplaced here,

Re: release plans

2010-09-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Marc Hohl wrote: > > Since tablature support has changed, I think this should be > reported, too. Thanks, pushed. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/lis

Re: release plans

2010-09-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:59:18AM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: > Graham Percival schrieb: > >2) website has been switched over. At first glance, I think I can > >close issue 1244 now, but I want to double-check and wait for > >feedback. > The menu bar is misplaced here, I don't know why - see the atta

Re: release plans

2010-09-24 Thread Marc Hohl
Graham Percival schrieb: Here's an update on the release plans. These are not cast in stone; if you have a thoughtful objection or suggestion, I'm willing to change things. 1) 2.13.34, "alpha test" has been released. 2) website has been switched over. At first glance,

Re: release plans

2010-09-23 Thread Phil Holmes
"Graham Percival" wrote in message news:20100922161121.gc14...@futoi... Here's an update on the release plans. These are not cast in stone; if you have a thoughtful objection or suggestion, I'm willing to change things. 1) 2.13.34, "alpha test" has been released

Re: release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Marc Hohl
Graham Percival schrieb: Here's an update on the release plans. These are not cast in stone; if you have a thoughtful objection or suggestion, I'm willing to change things. Since tablature support has changed, I think this should be reported, too. Ma

Re: release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Mike Solomon
wrote: > Here's an update on the release plans. These are not cast in > stone; if you have a thoughtful objection or suggestion, I'm > willing to change things. > > 1) 2.13.34, "alpha test" has been released. > 2) website has been switched over. At first glance,

Re: release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > 2) website has been switched over.  At first glance, I think I can > close issue 1244 now, but I want to double-check and wait for > feedback. I think we should make at least the following URLs point to the equivalent new pages: http://lil

Re: release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > > Just read the "2.13 diffs from 2.12" doc and there's no mention of page > spacing changes.  I think this is quite a major change and needs adding to > that doc? Thanks, I added an entry about this: +...@item +The vertical spacing engine has

Re: release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Phil Holmes
"Graham Percival" wrote in message news:20100922161121.gc14...@futoi... Here's an update on the release plans. These are not cast in stone; if you have a thoughtful objection or suggestion, I'm willing to change things. Just read the "2.13 diffs from 2.12" doc

Re: release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Phil Holmes
"Graham Percival" wrote in message news:20100922163820.ga14...@futoi... On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 05:29:42PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: "Graham Percival" wrote in message news:20100922161121.gc14...@futoi... >NB: I expect approximately 5 more regressions to be reported in >the next week. Some of

Re: release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 05:29:42PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > "Graham Percival" wrote in message > news:20100922161121.gc14...@futoi... > >NB: I expect approximately 5 more regressions to be reported in > >the next week. Some of them might not be regressions in code that > >worked deliberately.

Re: release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Phil Holmes
"Graham Percival" wrote in message news:20100922161121.gc14...@futoi... Here's an update on the release plans. These are not cast in stone; if you have a thoughtful objection or suggestion, I'm willing to change things. 1) 2.13.34, "alpha test" has been released

release plans

2010-09-22 Thread Graham Percival
Here's an update on the release plans. These are not cast in stone; if you have a thoughtful objection or suggestion, I'm willing to change things. 1) 2.13.34, "alpha test" has been released. 2) website has been switched over. At first glance, I think I can close issue 124

Re: Regtests comparison failure [was Re: release plans]

2009-09-23 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 23 septembre 2009 à 21:02 +0100, Neil Puttock a écrit : > It looks like there's no forced regeneration of the musicxml snippets: > on my system, unless I do `make test-clean' first, they all have the > wrong \version (i.e., 2.13.4), which causes `make test-baseline' to > fail on the fi

Re: Regtests comparison failure [was Re: release plans]

2009-09-23 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/22 John Mandereau : > I had a failure of test-baseline; I did > > git checkout stable/2.12 > ./autogen.sh > make clean > make -j3 &>make.log > make test-baseline > > I couldn't investigate it, because test-baseline isn't built with > --verbose.  I'm building 2.12 docs, if the failure is rep

Regtests comparison failure [was Re: release plans]

2009-09-22 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 19 septembre 2009 à 22:26 +0100, Neil Puttock a écrit : > I don't know whether it's significant, but I've found it's easy to > tell when the testing's gone wrong, since the job forking message has > too few jobs (on a good day, it usually averages around 20,000 per job > for -j3 on my sy

Re: release plans

2009-09-19 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/19 John Mandereau : > Ugh, this is weird.  I'll try comparing 2.12 and master, and 2.13.3 and > master. Cheers. I don't know whether it's significant, but I've found it's easy to tell when the testing's gone wrong, since the job forking message has too few jobs (on a good day, it usually

Re: release plans

2009-09-19 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 19 septembre 2009 à 21:50 +0100, Neil Puttock a écrit : > If it's not too much trouble for you to do this, John, I'd be > interested to know whether you can get it too work; I've been trying > without success over the last few weeks to do comparisons between > various 2.12 & 2.13 release

Re: release plans

2009-09-19 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/19 John Mandereau : > Is it worth I generate a regtest comparison manually (without gub, doing > git checkout release/2.12.3-0;make test-baseline; > git checkout release/2.12.4-1;make check) and upload it somewhere. If it's not too much trouble for you to do this, John, I'd be interested t

Re: release plans

2009-09-19 Thread Travis Briggs
I'll volunteer for helping regtest. You just look at two output images and compare them, right? Any difference, the test fails? -Travis On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 06:34:41PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: >> Le vendredi 18 septembre 2009 à 06

Re: release plans

2009-09-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 06:34:41PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le vendredi 18 septembre 2009 à 06:56 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Some time later today (knock on wood) I'll make the official > > 2.13.4 release. This will happen whenever I manage to solve or > > bludgeon all the issues

Re: release plans

2009-09-19 Thread John Mandereau
Le vendredi 18 septembre 2009 à 06:56 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : > Some time later today (knock on wood) I'll make the official > 2.13.4 release. This will happen whenever I manage to solve or > bludgeon all the issues involved in building GUB on my university > machine. As such, > - I'm n

Re: release plans

2009-09-18 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > - I'm not going to check the regtests > - I'm not going to announce it on info-lilypond or the website. > - I'm not going to care about things like test output that's twice >  the size that it should be, or that I need to do >    rm -rf tar

Re: release plans

2009-09-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: Some time later today (knock on wood) I'll make the official 2.13.4 release. Great! ... Some time next week (knock on wood again), I'll make a 2.13.5 release. The major new thing there will be creating the regtest comparison between .4 and .5, and this time I *will*

release plans

2009-09-17 Thread Graham Percival
Some time later today (knock on wood) I'll make the official 2.13.4 release. This will happen whenever I manage to solve or bludgeon all the issues involved in building GUB on my university machine. As such, - I'm not going to check the regtests - I'm not going to announce it on info-lilypond or

Re: 2.14 release plans

2009-06-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:02:12AM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009 06:25:20 schrieb Graham Percival: > > Progress has been slow for the past month. I'd like to be able to > > claim that I'll be getting more done in

Re: 2.14 release plans

2009-06-23 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009 06:25:20 schrieb Graham Percival: > Progress has been slow for the past month. I'd like to be able to > claim that I'll be getting more done in the next few weeks, but in > all honesty I doubt it. If anything, I'll be engag

Re: 2.14 release plans

2009-06-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:04:54PM +0300, Joe Neeman wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 21:25 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > > With that in mind, I think we're looking at 2.14 being at the end > > of July at the earliest. Therefore, I'd like to invite Joe to > > merge the new vertical spacing code in

Re: 2.14 release plans

2009-06-23 Thread Carl Sorensen
Graham Percival percival-music.ca> writes: > > Progress has been slow for the past month. I'd like to be able to > claim that I'll be getting more done in the next few weeks, but in > all honesty I doubt it. If anything, I'll be engaged in *more* > household projects, not less. > > With that

Re: 2.14 release plans

2009-06-23 Thread Joe Neeman
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 21:25 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > Progress has been slow for the past month. I'd like to be able to > claim that I'll be getting more done in the next few weeks, but in > all honesty I doubt it. If anything, I'll be engaged in *more* > household projects, not less. > >

2.14 release plans

2009-06-22 Thread Graham Percival
Progress has been slow for the past month. I'd like to be able to claim that I'll be getting more done in the next few weeks, but in all honesty I doubt it. If anything, I'll be engaged in *more* household projects, not less. With that in mind, I think we're looking at 2.14 being at the end of J

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread John Mandereau
Le lundi 22 décembre 2008 à 11:23 -0800, Graham Percival a écrit : > This is totally a meritocracy question. Non-developers want the > sun and moon, right now, for the price of a download. So, let's ask for a fee for each download -<:o) > In the past we've tried to do the backporting idea. It'

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 06:54:43PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote Monday, December 22, 2008 6:22 PM > >> It would be really nice if we could invert the rhythms of >> stable/devel: have a long stable cycle with many releases (like 2.11 >> had), and thenhave a flurry of 2

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote Monday, December 22, 2008 6:22 PM On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Graham Percival wrote: Does this mean you do not want to make any difference between odd and even versions? No. .13 would be the "devel" version, where syntax changes are introduced, and any major

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Graham Percival wrote: >> Does this mean you do not want to make any difference between odd and >> even versions? > > No. .13 would be the "devel" version, where syntax changes are > introduced, and any major breakage occurs. It would last as long > as necessar

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, December 22, 2008 5:40 AM Once 2.12 is out and we've succeeded in setting up GUB3 on kainhofer, I'll become the Release Manager. I have two ideas on how to change things: 1) Move to a linux kernel type of releases: instead of having separate devel and stable br

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:56:35PM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2008/12/22 Graham Percival : > > Once 2.12 is out and we've succeeded in setting up GUB3 on > > kainhofer, I'll become the Release Manager. I have two ideas on > > how to change things: > > Good to see you're still involved, Mr

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/12/22 Graham Percival : > Once 2.12 is out and we've succeeded in setting up GUB3 on > kainhofer, I'll become the Release Manager. I have two ideas on > how to change things: Good to see you're still involved, Mr "I'm-leavin'-soon-anyway-so-just-pretend-I'm-not-here" :-) > 2) Keep the dist

Re: Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > Once 2.12 is out and we've succeeded in setting up GUB3 on > kainhofer, I'll become the Release Manager. I have two ideas on > how to change things: > > 1) Move to a linux kernel type of releases: instead of having > separate devel and st

Post-2.12 release plans

2008-12-21 Thread Graham Percival
Once 2.12 is out and we've succeeded in setting up GUB3 on kainhofer, I'll become the Release Manager. I have two ideas on how to change things: 1) Move to a linux kernel type of releases: instead of having separate devel and stable branches, we just do everything in 2.12. In some ways, we've be