Re: New markup command `parenthesize'

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Morgan
Mark Polesky writes: > There already is a command named parenthesize defined on line 604 > of ly/music-functions-init.ly. I think you need to rename it to > avoid conflicts. Perhaps "parenthesize-markup"? I could be wrong but I don't think they conflict, because music functions and markup comman

Rewrite the vertical layout of staves/systems.

2009-07-26 Thread pnorcks
I don't really understand the code from this patchset, but I just have one quick comment. Thanks, Patrick http://codereview.appspot.com/97119/diff/1/22 File lily/staff-grouper-engraver.cc (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/97119/diff/1/22#newcode21 Line 21: { Are engravers allowed to inher

[PATCH] Implement tool to check sorting of lists, etc.

2009-07-26 Thread Mark Polesky
Hey everyone, here's my latest attempt at an idea I had a while ago. The idea was to find a way to quickly check if certain lists and alists appear in order in the source code itself. This will help to keep our code organized. I suppose there are other ways to do it, but for the way I ended up desi

Re: More documentation restructure issues

2009-07-26 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 09:30:44PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > Hi John, > > After doing a full "make web" from scratch ... That's what I thought, but not what I typed, of course. :-) Thanks, Patrick ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel

Re: how is NR F. "LilyPond command index" generated?

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 03:23:53PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote: > > > Once John says it's safe to do doc work again, I'll add a > > checklist for doc modification. (if there's a new command, > > did you add a @funindex) > > Definitely put that on your TODO list or put a

More documentation restructure issues

2009-07-26 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi John, After doing a full "make web" from scratch, I noticed a couple other issues that are likely makefile-related: 1) The following directories are missing copies of the stylesheets: Documentation/changes/ input/regression/ input/regression/musicxml/ 2) The links for snippet ima

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> - What is a good name for the new articulation? I suggest `vertical stroke'. At least this seems to be the name referred to in the literature for the staccato-like symbol which Mozart uses. > - What should be the precise shape (width/height ratio)? Currently I > use height = 1 staff_space and

Re: John's getting a PhD! (was: something about building stuff)

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:38:20PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le dimanche 26 juillet 2009 à 02:02 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Congratulations! There seems to be a strong correlation between > > working on lilypond and getting PhDs. > > Maybe, but in my case it looks more like a coinc

Re: feature request (\cueNotes)

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:23:56PM +, Werner wrote: > Reinhold Kainhofer kainhofer.com> writes: > > > How about using \new CueVoice? > > It indeed seems to be nearly what I'm looking for. > (But I miss an easy example in the docs - it is so complicated there! So I > even > didn't find nor

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 06:49:13AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Graham, > >> Oh, in case anybody was wondering: my father is pure native >> British, educated at Oxford, and considers the 1978 Fowler's >> Modern English second revised edition (printed in Oxford) to be >> the definitive guide to

Re: How can I use git to help me merge a patch with the new directory structure

2009-07-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/26/09 11:35 AM, "John Mandereau" wrote: > Le samedi 25 juillet 2009 à 22:37 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : >> Any git gurus out there who have an idea of how I can do this without having >> to manually apply patches made between the files in the different >> directories? > > If marvellou

Re: How can I use git to help me merge a patch with the new directory structure

2009-07-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/26/09 11:35 AM, "Johannes Schindelin" wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Carl Sorensen wrote: > >> As you're aware, I've been working on a patch for autobeaming. >> >> It affects c++, scheme, and documentation files. >> >> Now I want to apply the patch to master. But the problem i

Re: Contrib Guide not built

2009-07-26 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 01:28:12PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > 2009/7/26 John Mandereau : > > Le samedi 25 juillet 2009 à 19:25 -0700, Patrick McCarty a écrit : > >> I can confirm.  The entire "split" version of the CG is not being built > >> either. > > > > I have not checked this before clea

Re: Weird make error

2009-07-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/26/09 9:51 AM, "John Mandereau" wrote: > Hi Carl, > Le samedi 25 juillet 2009 à 18:14 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : >> make runs through the creation of the .o and the executable. It finishes >> the fonts, then when it starts compiling the snippets it ends with: > > This log is cumbers

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Joe Neeman
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 15:57 -0400, Dan Eble wrote: > On 26 Jul 2009, at 13:41, Joe Neeman wrote: > > > Please do send me the files. But first, check to see if they give the > > same behaviour with current git. I pushed some changes yesterday that > > may have helped. > > I have a book of 243 scor

Re: how is NR F. "LilyPond command index" generated?

2009-07-26 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: > > No, I'm wondering because I updated the syntax with a new > > command in a recent patch of mine: > > Ah, I see. No, of course it won't. The index is built purely > from @funindex. Ralph Palmer is gradually indexing material, > but of course he wouldn't notice this a

To the NEWS: [Fwd: ANN: LilyPondTool 2.12.879 Plugin Central Release]

2009-07-26 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Wouldn't it be a good idea to post these announcement to the NEWS of the LilyPond homepage? The latest version of LilyPondTool has been released to the jEdit plugin repository. Now it supports Virtual Piano and MIDI input, and a dockable PDF viewer with advanced point-and-click support. To get

Re: how is NR F. "LilyPond command index" generated?

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 03:05:43PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote: > > > It's done with texinfo's index generation. All > > @funindex foo > > entries are collected and genereated into the index. Internally, > > our @funindex macro is expanded to @findex and @kindex. > >

Re: how is NR F. "LilyPond command index" generated?

2009-07-26 Thread Mark Polesky
Graham Percival wrote: > It's done with texinfo's index generation. All > @funindex foo > entries are collected and genereated into the index. Internally, > our @funindex macro is expanded to @findex and @kindex. > > If you're wondering because you want to improve the readibility of > the in

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20090726092704.ga3...@nagi>, Graham Percival writes [1] the only thing that comes to mind at the moment is using the American "z" in words rather than the British "s". I just think that "-ize" looks cooler than "-ise". Actually, "s" is FRENCH, not English :-) Bearing in mind The

Re: how is NR F. "LilyPond command index" generated?

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 02:42:17PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > > How is NR F. "LilyPond command index" generated? > > I see this on line 215 of Documentation/notation.tely, but I don't > understand how it works: > > @printindex ky > > Can someone explain? It's done with texinfo's index genera

Re: New markup command `parenthesize'

2009-07-26 Thread Bertalan Fodor
There are many other commands that have the same name in markup and normal context. Mark Polesky írta: Thomas Morgan wrote: Here is a patch which defines `parenthesize', a new markup command which works like `bracket'. It's mainly useful for parenthesizing columns containing several lines

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 04:24:03PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hello Joe (et al.), > >> (It's not that I'm afraid of building Lilypond, it's just that >> spending three days >> installing the prerequisites is currently low on my list of >> priorities.) > > I've spent about two days trying,

Re: New markup command `parenthesize'

2009-07-26 Thread Mark Polesky
Thomas Morgan wrote: > Here is a patch which defines `parenthesize', a new markup command > which works like `bracket'. It's mainly useful for parenthesizing > columns containing several lines of text. > > Please let me know about anything you see that could be done better! There already is a

New markup command `parenthesize'

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Morgan
Here is a patch which defines `parenthesize', a new markup command which works like `bracket'. It's mainly useful for parenthesizing columns containing several lines of text. Please let me know about anything you see that could be done better! commit c46fa73ed53ccc6f550e549fdec20df7003c3582 Auth

how is NR F. "LilyPond command index" generated?

2009-07-26 Thread Mark Polesky
How is NR F. "LilyPond command index" generated? I see this on line 215 of Documentation/notation.tely, but I don't understand how it works: @printindex ky Can someone explain? Thanks. - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel

Re: Contrib Guide not built

2009-07-26 Thread Patrick McCarty
2009/7/26 John Mandereau : > Le samedi 25 juillet 2009 à 19:25 -0700, Patrick McCarty a écrit : >> I can confirm.  The entire "split" version of the CG is not being built >> either. > > I have not checked this before cleaning up Documentation/GNUmakefile > today, but the link to the split HTML CG

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello Joe (et al.), Are there development builds for download anywhere? +1 [OS X 10.4 Intel] (It's not that I'm afraid of building Lilypond, it's just that spending three days installing the prerequisites is currently low on my list of priorities.) I've spent about two days trying, and

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Dan Eble
On 26 Jul 2009, at 13:41, Joe Neeman wrote: Please do send me the files. But first, check to see if they give the same behaviour with current git. I pushed some changes yesterday that may have helped. I have a book of 243 scores that could use better vertical spacing. Are there development

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Joe Neeman
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 20:02 +0100, Neil Puttock wrote: > Hi Joe, > > 2009/7/26 Joe Neeman : > > > Please do send me the files. But first, check to see if they give the > > same behaviour with current git. I pushed some changes yesterday that > > may have helped. > > Have you carried these change

Re: Docs and new web site reorganization steps

2009-07-26 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/7/26 John Mandereau : > Oops. I was concerned by a possible leading colon in this case anyways. > Fixed in Git. Lovely, thank you. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: feature request (\cueNotes)

2009-07-26 Thread Werner
Reinhold Kainhofer kainhofer.com> writes: > How about using \new CueVoice? Thanks for the hint! It indeed seems to be nearly what I'm looking for. (But I miss an easy example in the docs - it is so complicated there! So I even didn't find nor understand it. They explain there more cueDuring th

Re: Docs and new web site reorganization steps

2009-07-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 26 juillet 2009 à 19:50 +0100, Neil Puttock a écrit : > I've just tried to invoke makelsr.py to update a snippet in one of my > Rietveld patchsets, and I'm getting the following error message: > os.environ['PYTHONPATH'] += ':python' > KeyError: 'PYTHONPATH' > > Should I have a PYT

Re: Directory structure for docs and web site

2009-07-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 22 juillet 2009 à 21:46 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > I disagree; @lilypond blocks have a few problems for this case: > - this is a really "courageous" regression test. Ok, ideally we'd > never merge any patches that break any regtests, but it happens > from time to time -- es

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Joe, 2009/7/26 Joe Neeman : > Please do send me the files. But first, check to see if they give the > same behaviour with current git. I pushed some changes yesterday that > may have helped. Have you carried these changes over from dev/jneeman? The reason I ask is that I'm now getting the sa

Re: Docs and new web site reorganization steps

2009-07-26 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi John, I've just tried to invoke makelsr.py to update a snippet in one of my Rietveld patchsets, and I'm getting the following error message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "scripts/auxiliar/makelsr.py", line 8, in os.environ['PYTHONPATH'] += ':python' File "/usr/lib/python2.6

Re: Docs and new web site reorganization steps

2009-07-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 25 juillet 2009 à 13:05 -0700, Patrick McCarty a écrit : > However, I just tried `make install' after `make all', and I get the > attached output. Thanks for the report, fixed in Git. Gee, this made me realize OMF stuff had been broken since 'out-www' was stripped from the docball (i.e.

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Mark Polesky
Maximilian Albert wrote: > OK, thanks. Any suggestions for a name? I can't think of a good one > which concisely captures the glyph's meaning (mainly because I don't > know what that meaning is :-P). Michael Käppler, in his original post for this thread suggested that it implies some extra "weigh

Re: Contrib Guide not built

2009-07-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 25 juillet 2009 à 19:25 -0700, Patrick McCarty a écrit : > I can confirm. The entire "split" version of the CG is not being built > either. I have not checked this before cleaning up Documentation/GNUmakefile today, but the link to the split HTML CG from devel.html was wrong. This shou

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Joe Neeman
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 21:46 +1000, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: > Joe Neeman writes: > > > On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 17:09 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > >> Am Montag, 22. Juni 2009 15:31:14 schrieb Joe Neeman: > >> > A quick update on the new vertical spacing: [...] > >> > Anything I've missed? > >>

Re: John's getting a PhD! (was: something about building stuff)

2009-07-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 26 juillet 2009 à 02:02 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > Congratulations! There seems to be a strong correlation between > working on lilypond and getting PhDs. Maybe, but in my case it looks more like a coincidence between my translations meister role in LilyPond and studies, even

Re: How can I use git to help me merge a patch with the new directory structure

2009-07-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 25 juillet 2009 à 22:37 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > Any git gurus out there who have an idea of how I can do this without having > to manually apply patches made between the files in the different > directories? If marvellous renames detection capacity of Git enabled by default when

Re: How can I use git to help me merge a patch with the new directory structure

2009-07-26 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Carl Sorensen wrote: > As you're aware, I've been working on a patch for autobeaming. > > It affects c++, scheme, and documentation files. > > Now I want to apply the patch to master. But the problem is that all of > the documentation files have moved to Documentation

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/26 Carl Sorensen : > I think that Werner was saying the feature request is to add a glyph to the > font.  But while we wait for that to happen, to add a drawn rectangle is a > definite benefit. I was talking about adding a glyph to the font, too. But the glyph is basically just a rectangle

Re: Weird make error

2009-07-26 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Carl, Le samedi 25 juillet 2009 à 18:14 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : > make runs through the creation of the .o and the executable. It finishes > the fonts, then when it starts compiling the snippets it ends with: This log is cumbersome to read, because "make" doesn't print "entering/leaving

Re: feature request (\cueNotes)

2009-07-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 25. Juli 2009 11:51:23 schrieb Werner: > I really would be glad, if there was a possibility to make notes (including > heads, stems, beams, flags, slurs, clefs, accidentals, ...) smaller. > > Unfortunately the \small, \tiny, \set fontSize c

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/26/09 1:33 AM, "Maximilian Albert" wrote: > 2009/7/25 Werner LEMBERG : > >> I don't object to add it to the font, so please add it as a feature >> request. I think that Werner was saying the feature request is to add a glyph to the font. But while we wait for that to happen, to add a d

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> @nonfrenchspacing does _not_, I repeat _not_, cause a larger space to >> appear by _default_ at sentence endings. However, when TeX does line >> justification, it will (if necessary) stretch the space after sentence >> endings more than the interword spa

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, Well, the TeX book says: Excellent reference — thanks! so there _is_ extra natural space for a space factor of 2000 and larger. Perhaps the best compromise, then, would be to set the space factor at 1999 — that way, the single-spacers (a.k.a. star-bellied Sneeches) would be

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
Joe Neeman writes: > On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 17:09 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: >> Am Montag, 22. Juni 2009 15:31:14 schrieb Joe Neeman: >> > A quick update on the new vertical spacing: [...] >> > Anything I've missed? >> >> While the new vertical spacing looks great for full scores (one syste

Does \hspace need a vertical extent?

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Morgan
Given the following input, the height of the brackets does not match the height of the enclosed text. \version "2.13.2" \markup { \bracket { \concat { \hspace #1 FOO \hspace #1 } } } This is because \hspace has a vertical extent. I'm assuming tha

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Mark Knoop
At 02:27 on 26 Jul 2009, Graham Percival wrote: > [1] the only thing that comes to mind at the moment is using the > American "z" in words rather than the British "s". I just think > that "-ize" looks cooler than "-ise". Um, that's not actually American... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spe

Re: how to view console on Windows?

2009-07-26 Thread Ian Hulin
Mark Polesky wrote: Jonathan Kulp wrote: You can run it from the dos cmd prompt. Just do "lilypond foobar.ly" and it should work. Yes it does... thank you, that helps. But shouldn't the output be sent to the log file? I wish it were. Does anyone know how to do that? Thanks. - Mark $ lilypon

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, @nonfrenchspacing does _not_, I repeat _not_, cause a larger space to appear by _default_ at sentence endings. However, when TeX does line justification, it will (if necessary) stretch the space after sentence endings more than the interword space when @nonfrenchspacing is being used.

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Graham, Oh, in case anybody was wondering: my father is pure native British, educated at Oxford, and considers the 1978 Fowler's Modern English second revised edition (printed in Oxford) to be the definitive guide to English writing. There's no American influence here! So what does Fowler's (

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Graham, I could ask him for references tomorrow if you want. Like most religious beliefs, your father's bible (whatever reference it may be) will never convince me that my bible (Robert Bringhurst's "The Elements of Typographic Style") is anything except mao's own truth. =) PPS like

Re: ppppp but no fffff

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:31:35AM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > > Although, it just struck me, what does MIDI do when it gets a > dynamic it doesn't recognize? Maybe it's written somewhere; I > haven't checked. MIDI doesn't get "dynamics" in terms of mffpf. Rather, note events have a include "ve

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 07:28:33PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <20090725.163011.184567355...@gnu.org>, Werner LEMBERG > writes >> Indeed, I just see that @frenchspacing is only used for French and >> Japanese (the latter only partially). It should be activated for all >> lang

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:20:45AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Werner (et al,), > >> Please use two spaces after a full stop in documentation strings for >> consistence. > > Since this is incorrect typographical practice, and Lilypond prides > itself on beautiful typography, I'm surprise

John's getting a PhD! (was: something about building stuff)

2009-07-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 09:25:01PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > I strive to update the CG and maintenance scripts and push this > on Monday; now I know I've been awarded a PhD grant at math > department of Pisa University (Italy), Congratulations! There seems to be a strong correlation between

Re: Feature request: 'line' articulation

2009-07-26 Thread Maximilian Albert
2009/7/25 Werner LEMBERG : > I don't object to add it to the font, so please add it as a feature > request. Given that the shape is basically only a rectangle, this should be easy to do. I've got a patch more or less ready but there are a couple of small questions: - What is a good name for the

Re: RFC: new vertical layout engine

2009-07-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Anthony W. Youngman" writes: > In message <20090725.163011.184567355...@gnu.org>, Werner LEMBERG > writes >>Indeed, I just see that @frenchspacing is only used for French and >>Japanese (the latter only partially). It should be activated for all >>languages except, perhaps, English. Note that