Re: [lfs-dev] ICA on new build method

2012-03-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 3/1/12 4:41 AM, Pierre Labastie wrote: > --- > diff -ur iteration-1/usr/lib/libgmpxx.la iteration-2/usr/lib/libgmpxx.la > --- iteration-1/usr/lib/libgmpxx.la 2012-02-29 15:54:39.0 +0100 > +++ iteration-2/usr/lib/libgmpxx.la 2012-02-29 17:59:46.0 +0

[lfs-dev] ICA on new build method

2012-03-01 Thread Pierre Labastie
?" Of course in our case, it builds, but a further test is: "does it build as before?" I haven't really tried to ensure the full compatibility with before, but just performed ICA on the new build method. Actually, since chapter 6 is not modified in that method, I would expect that

Re: [lfs-dev] test on LFS 7.1-rc1: ICA + suggestion

2012-02-22 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:02:24 +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: > Should be corrected in current upstream patch list. Do not know > if you LFS devs think it is a big issue (having math.h needlessly > included when ncurses C++ bindings are used). I suggest > waiting for the next release of ncurses. Y

Re: [lfs-dev] test on LFS 7.1-rc1: ICA + suggestion

2012-02-22 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 21/02/2012 21:51, Andrew Benton a écrit : > On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:47:00 +0100 > Pierre Labastie wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have done a test of LFS-7.1-rc1. ICA went OK, except the >> already reported problem with ld.so.cache (ldconfig still missing >> s

Re: [lfs-dev] test on LFS 7.1-rc1: ICA + suggestion

2012-02-21 Thread Andrew Benton
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:47:00 +0100 Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > I have done a test of LFS-7.1-rc1. ICA went OK, except the > already reported problem with ld.so.cache (ldconfig still missing > somewhere), which is not a big issue. In case somebody else > does ICA, there

Re: [lfs-dev] test on LFS 7.1-rc1: ICA + suggestion

2012-02-21 Thread Andrew Benton
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:47:00 +0100 Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > I have done a test of LFS-7.1-rc1. ICA went OK, except the > already reported problem with ld.so.cache (ldconfig still missing > somewhere), which is not a big issue. In case somebody else > does ICA, there

[lfs-dev] test on LFS 7.1-rc1: ICA + suggestion

2012-02-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi, I have done a test of LFS-7.1-rc1. ICA went OK, except the already reported problem with ld.so.cache (ldconfig still missing somewhere), which is not a big issue. In case somebody else does ICA, there is this difference in etip.h between ICA iterations 1 and 2

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matt Burgess wrote: > On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 15:58 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Pierre Labastie wrote: >> >>> I have not tried to add /tools to a LIBRARY_PATH, because I am >>> (maybe wrongly) worried about linking to a libraries which are >>> then removed. >> I think that is a needless worry. gcc

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-29 Thread Matt Burgess
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 15:58 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Pierre Labastie wrote: > > > I have not tried to add /tools to a LIBRARY_PATH, because I am > > (maybe wrongly) worried about linking to a libraries which are > > then removed. > > I think that is a needless worry. gcc uses LIBRARY_PATH so

Re: [lfs-dev] ICA with jhalfs

2012-01-29 Thread Pierre Labastie
script} # Suppress the mod of "test-installation.pl" because now # the library path points to /usr/lib if [[ ${script} =~ glibc ]]; then -- For now, I am busy testing ICA. Looks like it works and some useful information may be extracted. Regards Pierre -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > I have not tried to add /tools to a LIBRARY_PATH, because I am > (maybe wrongly) worried about linking to a libraries which are > then removed. I think that is a needless worry. gcc uses LIBRARY_PATH so it can get the linkages, but when running, the LD_LIBRARY_PATH vari

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-29 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 28/01/2012 00:30, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : > Pierre Labastie wrote: >> Well, the reason why grub does not find liblzma is much simpler >> anyway: grub is built before xz! > > It should find xz from Chapter 5. The liblzma.so.5.0.3 is in /tools and > it does have the lzma_code reference. > > There a

Re: [lfs-dev] Second report from ICA use

2012-01-28 Thread Andrew Benton
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:28:19 +0100 Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe another thing to worry about: > -- > --- iteration-1/usr/lib/libgmpxx.la > +++ iteration-2/usr/lib/libgmpxx.la > @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ > inherited_linker_flags='' > > # Librarie

[lfs-dev] Second report from ICA use

2012-01-28 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi, Maybe another thing to worry about: -- --- iteration-1/usr/lib/libgmpxx.la +++ iteration-2/usr/lib/libgmpxx.la @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ inherited_linker_flags='' # Libraries that this one depends upon. -dependency_libs=' /usr/lib/libgmp.la' +dependency

Re: [lfs-dev] ICA with jhalfs

2012-01-28 Thread Matt Burgess
On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 19:15 -0500, Thomas Pegg wrote: > I noticed the patch too but haven't had time to thoroughly review it > yet. But I would say before it does get applied a new stable release of > jhalfs as there have been a few fixes since the last stable so we have > known good working ve

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
ls to a LIBRARY_PATH environment variable. We could also just append #define HAVE_LIBLZMA 1" >>confdefs.h after configure in GRUB. We could also move xz to be before GRUB. > Not a big deal, unless you want to create compressed boot images > (the only possible compression is xz). But sh

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-27 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 28/01/2012 00:01, Matt Burgess a écrit : > > OK, so running ldconfig just after pass2 should fix things up then, do > you think? > Oh, I should not have used pass 1, 2: I meant the ICA passes. Let us call them 'build'. Running ldconfig at the end of build 1 (Section 6

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-27 Thread Matt Burgess
running ldconfig just after pass2 should fix things up then, do you think? > Well, the reason why grub does not find liblzma is much simpler > anyway: grub is built before xz! Ah, good catch, and exactly the kind of thing ICA was developed to find. Once this latest build of mine is done, I&#x

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-27 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 27/01/2012 19:46, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : > > Pierre Labastie wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I think I spotted something by doing ICA (not all investigated yet). >> ld.so.cache differs at the end of pass 1 and at the end of pass 2. >> It can be printed with ldcon

Re: [lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > I think I spotted something by doing ICA (not all investigated yet). > ld.so.cache differs at the end of pass 1 and at the end of pass 2. > It can be printed with ldconfig -p, and then diffed, which gives: > Now, one differing binary file is g

[lfs-dev] First report from ICA use

2012-01-27 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi, I think I spotted something by doing ICA (not all investigated yet). ld.so.cache differs at the end of pass 1 and at the end of pass 2. It can be printed with ldconfig -p, and then diffed, which gives: --- ld.so.cache-1 2012-01-27 19:19:13.0 +0100 +++ ld.so.cache-2 2012

Re: [lfs-dev] ICA with jhalfs

2012-01-26 Thread Thomas Pegg
On 1/26/2012 12:32 PM, Matthew Burgess wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:27:04 +0100, Pierre Labastie > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I wonder if anybody still uses jhalfs, and if he(she) has tried ICA >> lately. > I use jhalfs all the time, but I've never done an

Re: [lfs-dev] ICA with jhalfs

2012-01-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:27:04 +0100, Pierre Labastie > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I wonder if anybody still uses jhalfs, and if he(she) has tried ICA >> lately. > > I use jhalfs all the time, but I've never done an ICA build with it.

Re: [lfs-dev] ICA with jhalfs

2012-01-26 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 26/01/2012 19:10, Ken Moffat a ecrit : > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 06:27:04PM +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I wonder if anybody still uses jhalfs, and if he(she) has tried ICA >> lately. > I gave up on my own version of ICA ('farce') years a

Re: [lfs-dev] ICA with jhalfs

2012-01-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 06:27:04PM +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if anybody still uses jhalfs, and if he(she) has tried ICA > lately. I gave up on my own version of ICA ('farce') years ago - there were too many unexplainable differences on x86_64, which

Re: [lfs-dev] ICA with jhalfs

2012-01-26 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:27:04 +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if anybody still uses jhalfs, and if he(she) has tried ICA > lately. I use jhalfs all the time, but I've never done an ICA build with it. > ICA is broken because of the part in glibc&#

[lfs-dev] ICA with jhalfs

2012-01-26 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi, I wonder if anybody still uses jhalfs, and if he(she) has tried ICA lately. ICA is broken because of the part in glibc's instructions, which instructs 'test-installation.pl' to look for /usr/lib rather than /tools/lib. On the second (and following) pass, the line 'DL=.

Re: ICA/Farce

2009-02-07 Thread Gilles Espinasse
- Original Message - From: "Gilles Espinasse" To: "LFS Developers Mailinglist" Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 11:55 PM Subject: Re: ICA/Farce > > - Original Message - > From: "Ken Moffat" > To: "LFS Developers Mailingl

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Gilles Espinasse
- Original Message - From: "Ken Moffat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LFS Developers Mailinglist" Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 11:06 PM Subject: Re: ICA/Farce > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 06:36:07PM +0100, Gilles Espinasse wrote: > >

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:15:31AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > In farce, Ken had some > functions that would skip these stamps, but I don't recall how he > implemented that. > For gzipped files, just cmp -s -i 8 (the comment says bytes 4,5,6,7 are the timestamp, hopefully everything ahead of i

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 06:36:07PM +0100, Gilles Espinasse wrote: > Selon Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ... > > > > Archaic saw unresolved differences for x86 with gcc-4.1.2. > > Actually, looking at his results (they're at ~/archaic) they look > > pretty good - blkid.tab.old and locale-arc

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Gilles Espinasse
Selon Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ... > > Archaic saw unresolved differences for x86 with gcc-4.1.2. > Actually, looking at his results (they're at ~/archaic) they look > pretty good - blkid.tab.old and locale-archive should probably now > be expected to differ, and they were the only differe

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
c-2.3.3_notimestamp.patch?revision=1.1.2.1&view=markup&pathrev=IPCOP_v1_4_0 > > http://ipcop.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ipcop/ipcop/src/patches/perl-5.8.5-notimestamp.patch?view=log&pathrev=IPCOP_v1_4_0 Right. I was doing the same when I was doing ICA regularly. Something like se

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 06:51:38AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've never looked at jhalfs but I understand it implements my ICA > > algorithms. My own scripts have been getting

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Gilles Espinasse
Selon Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ... > > The actual implementation mostly involves preparing to diff/cmp, and > is probably better explained by the comments in gsbuild. Look at the > bottom of the functions file for do_ica_prep() and do_ica_work(). > > http://cvs.diy-linux.org/index.cgi/gs

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:59 AM, TheOldFellow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I meant to say was that I, for one, would be grateful for any > additional documentation of the subject. It's pretty straightforward, although I might butcher some of the terminology. The main goal is to see if the

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've never looked at jhalfs but I understand it implements my ICA > algorithms. My own scripts have been getting exceptionally clean > results lately now that the randomness in GCC builds has appa

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-27 Thread TheOldFellow
lfs is based on my own practices in DIY? Which in turn was > > based on the old lfscmd from about 8 years ago? :-) > > > > But getting back on topic, I should really write up some proper docs on > > ICA some day, instead of relying on the random mailing list spatteri

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread TheOldFellow
t's *VERY* convenient. I should know.. > > (Me wonders if Bruce realizes the whole "build straight from the doc" > concept in jhalfs is based on my own practices in DIY? Which in turn was > based on the old lfscmd from about 8 years ago? :-) > > But getting back

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread Ken Moffat
do a sanity > check on the development LFS. A positive ICA run would do us very well > to prove that the old build method is at least still working, even > though it is dated. > Well, since Greg has said that the 4.3 gcc builds have lost the randomness he was seeing, maybe farce will again b

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread DJ Lucas
Greg Schafer wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote: > > >> Hey guys. Is there any recent documentation on the expectations of >> farce or ICA? >> > > Docs? What docs :-) > > >> Doing only 2 passes of chapter6 >> with both comparison methods checke

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread DJ Lucas
Greg Schafer wrote: > (Me wonders if Bruce realizes the whole "build straight from the doc" > concept in jhalfs is based on my own practices in DIY? Which in turn was > based on the old lfscmd from about 8 years ago? :-) > OT, but Wow, good memory! Timothy B. right? (I'd have butchered his la

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread Greg Schafer
" concept in jhalfs is based on my own practices in DIY? Which in turn was based on the old lfscmd from about 8 years ago? :-) But getting back on topic, I should really write up some proper docs on ICA some day, instead of relying on the random mailing list spatterings over the years

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Umm, no. jhalfs parses the xml of the book and creates a Makefile that >> builds >> by the LFS book. Actually, it is quite convenient. > > ICA is in fact implemented as an optional feature of jhalfs. Which means >

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Umm, no. jhalfs parses the xml of the book and creates a Makefile that > builds > by the LFS book. Actually, it is quite convenient. ICA is in fact implemented as an optional feature of jhalfs. Which means that when it's done building LFS by the book,

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 10/26/08 16:32 CST: > Greg Schafer wrote: >> I've never looked at jhalfs but I understand it implements my ICA >> algorithms. My own scripts have been getting exceptionally clean >> results lately now that the randomness in GCC builds ha

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Greg Schafer wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote: > >> Hey guys. Is there any recent documentation on the expectations of >> farce or ICA? > > Docs? What docs :-) > >> Doing only 2 passes of chapter6 >> with both comparison methods checked. What are the advantages

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-26 Thread Greg Schafer
DJ Lucas wrote: > Hey guys. Is there any recent documentation on the expectations of > farce or ICA? Docs? What docs :-) > Doing only 2 passes of chapter6 > with both comparison methods checked. What are the advantages of 3 or > more passes? Huh? ICA by definition is 3

Re: ICA/Farce

2008-10-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 05:36:02PM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: > Hey guys. Is there any recent documentation on the expectations of > farce or ICA? I'm out of time for the weekend, so figured now was a > good time to fire off and let it fly. Doing only 2 passes of chapter6 > wit

ICA/Farce

2008-10-25 Thread DJ Lucas
Hey guys. Is there any recent documentation on the expectations of farce or ICA? I'm out of time for the weekend, so figured now was a good time to fire off and let it fly. Doing only 2 passes of chapter6 with both comparison methods checked. What are the advantages of 3 or more p

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-11-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
be stripped > >> out after the build. I'm assuming that the original difference is just > >> debugging symbols like would normally be the case. I'll try to narrow > >> that down further, but this may be a false positive ICA regression. > > > > I too

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-11-26 Thread Greg Schafer
t; debugging symbols like would normally be the case. I'll try to narrow >> that down further, but this may be a false positive ICA regression. > > I took a look at the diff of the `objdump -s' output from the > unstripped cc1-dummy in each iteration. All the diff

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-03-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 3/20/07, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Attached are two patches to add the glibc branch update patch in Ch. 5 > and force /usr/include to be used as the preferred system include > directory after the toolchain re-adjustment. No comments, so I'm applying these. -- Dan -- http://

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-03-20 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 3/20/07, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Attached are two patches to add the glibc branch update patch in Ch. 5 > and force /usr/include to be used as the preferred system include > directory after the toolchain re-adjustment. I should mention that I changed the specs adjustment to

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-03-20 Thread Dan Nicholson
further, but this may be a false positive ICA regression. I took a look at the diff of the `objdump -s' output from the unstripped cc1-dummy in each iteration. All the differences were in the .debug sections, so I think I can say that the difference in cc1 and cc1plus can be ignored a

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-03-19 Thread Dan Nicholson
;-v' to the sanity check output, you'll see > > that it's still looking in /tools/include. > > Regardless of whether it fixes the ICA regression or not, this tweak > should be considered for LFS because it fixes an outright bug in the build > method. > > > Now I th

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-03-15 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 16:43, Dan Nicholson wrote: > Manuel brought up a recent regression shown by ICA in cc1 and cc1plus. Dan, thanks for looking into this. It seems pretty clear that we need both fixes here, i.e. i) Apply the Glibc patch in chapter 5 and ii) Point GCC to the head

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-03-14 Thread Dan Nicholson
;-v' to the sanity check output, you'll see > > that it's still looking in /tools/include. > > Regardless of whether it fixes the ICA regression or not, this tweak > should be considered for LFS because it fixes an outright bug in the build > method. Yeah, my thinking was a

Re: ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-03-14 Thread Greg Schafer
Dan Nicholson wrote: > Manuel brought up a recent regression shown by ICA in cc1 and cc1plus. > Then I remembered one other thing Greg recently tweaked for more purity. > > http://www.diy-linux.org/pipermail/diy-linux-dev/2006-December/000967.html > > One of the things that

ICA diff in cc1 and cc1plus

2007-03-14 Thread Dan Nicholson
Manuel brought up a recent regression shown by ICA in cc1 and cc1plus. http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-February/059037.html I did some investigation on this. I reproduced it running jhalfs, but it didn't show up in my own scripts. I've got a few DIY tweaks in t

Re: headers_install and ICA

2007-01-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 06:33:48PM +, Matthew Burgess wrote: > On Tuesday 09 January 2007 19:00, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > All headers in /usr/include are blown away by > > 'make INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/usr headers_install' which has "unfortunate" > > results on glibc (thinks I'm building for i686-p

Re: headers_install and ICA

2007-01-28 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 19:00, Ken Moffat wrote: > After a long absence on other architectures, I'm trying to get back > into LFS itself. I've got 2006-12-09 working nicely on two boxes > (modulo unrelated kernel issues), so now I'm trying to run an > in-place install so that I can see if farc

Re: headers_install and ICA

2007-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
7;t that important ;-) OTOH, after > all the effort people went to last year, we should probably sed it > out, something like > > sed -i '/^.*Q.rm -rf.*INSTALL_HDR_PATH.*$/d' Makefile > > looks as if it will do the job (it definitely takes the line out, > but I haven&

headers_install and ICA

2007-01-09 Thread Ken Moffat
sed -i '/^.*Q.rm -rf.*INSTALL_HDR_PATH.*$/d' Makefile looks as if it will do the job (it definitely takes the line out, but I haven't tested it). I would appreciate help with explaining _why_ the book should include this, when it only benefits people running ICA, and potentially a

Re: Unnable to do ICA/farce comparative builds

2006-12-06 Thread Greg Schafer
Greg Schafer wrote: > Those binutils headers are utterly useless. Nothing needs them. Woops. To clarify, I meant to add "... at this early stage of the build.". They can, of course, be useful in a completed system. Regards Greg -- http://www.diy-linux.org/ -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mail

Re: Unnable to do ICA/farce comparative builds

2006-12-06 Thread Greg Schafer
M.Canales.es wrote: > Are the headers files already sanitized inside the kernel tree or are they > generated on-the-fly by "make headers-install" command ? On the fly. > If the last, the tools used to generate the headers files (the ones in /tools > for the first build, but the ones in /{bin,u

Re: Unnable to do ICA/farce comparative builds

2006-12-06 Thread M.Canales.es
El Miércoles, 6 de Diciembre de 2006 12:10, Greg Schafer escribió: > IMHO there is little point in reinstalling the kernel headers during > subsequent ICA iterations. I've never done it. After all, they are not > binary, they are just ascii text. Are the headers files already sa

Re: Unnable to do ICA/farce comparative builds

2006-12-06 Thread Greg Schafer
M.Canales.es wrote: > Doing yesterday a SVN-20061201 build to test current ICA/farce support in > jhalfs I found that the first iterative build of Glibc fails at the configure > stage with that: > As can be seen, when finished the system build both /usr/include/limits.h > a

Unnable to do ICA/farce comparative builds

2006-12-06 Thread M.Canales.es
Hi, Doing yesterday a SVN-20061201 build to test current ICA/farce support in jhalfs I found that the first iterative build of Glibc fails at the configure stage with that: === ./configure output fragment checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure: error: C preprocessor

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-11 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 4/10/06, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll make another run later. I'm doing a run with all the testsuites. > In automake right now. I'll be crossing my fingers that this won't > be a problem. The issue with pruning too much of the files

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread Andrew Benton
M.Canales.es wrote: analisys Mmm...sounds itchy. Have you tried using a cream? Andy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread M.Canales.es
El Lunes, 10 de Abril de 2006 21:22, Dan Nicholson escribió: > I'll make another run later. I'm doing a run with all the testsuites. > In automake right now. I'll be crossing my fingers that this won't > be a problem. I will start a new build now also. iteration-1 now run until the end, but w

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 4/10/06, M.Canales.es <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Lunes, 10 de Abril de 2006 21:12, Dan Nicholson escribió: > > > Yeah, that fixed it. I should report that one back to the author. :-) > > Are you getting differences in the headers? > > Not full test yet. I'm fixing the bugs as they bombs t

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread M.Canales.es
El Lunes, 10 de Abril de 2006 21:12, Dan Nicholson escribió: > Yeah, that fixed it. I should report that one back to the author. :-) > Are you getting differences in the headers? Not full test yet. I'm fixing the bugs as they bombs the Makefile run ;-) -- Manuel Canales Esparcia Usuario de LF

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 4/10/06, M.Canales.es <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think that do_ica_files is skipping the full /usr/include/sys tree, and > > maybe others files that match $PRUNEPATH pattners. > > Look like I have that fixed for jhalfs changing the /tmp/prunelist creation to > this: > > for F in $1 ; d

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 4/10/06, M.Canales.es <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Lunes, 10 de Abril de 2006 15:33, Dan Nicholson escribió: > > The ICA run finished up on the merged alphabetical/udev_update branch. > > Results were as clean as always. Results can be found in the farce > &g

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread M.Canales.es
El Lunes, 10 de Abril de 2006 20:39, M.Canales.es escribió: > Please Dan, can you corfirm if the next file, for example, is into your > copied trees for iteration analisys? > > ../usr/include/sys/procfs.h > > I think that do_ica_files is skipping the full /usr/include/sys tree, and > maybe others

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread M.Canales.es
El Lunes, 10 de Abril de 2006 15:33, Dan Nicholson escribió: > The ICA run finished up on the merged alphabetical/udev_update branch. > Results were as clean as always. Results can be found in the farce > and ica directories here: Please Dan, can you corfirm if the next file, for ex

Re: [alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread Archaic
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 06:33:39AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > The ICA run finished up on the merged alphabetical/udev_update branch. > Results were as clean as always. Results can be found in the farce > and ica directories here: Thanks for you hard work, Dan. This is very

[alpha + udev_update] ICA Results In

2006-04-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
The ICA run finished up on the merged alphabetical/udev_update branch. Results were as clean as always. Results can be found in the farce and ica directories here: http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/~dnicholson/lfs-alpha-20060408-reports/ Test suites were not run since Manuel built the same

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-28 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I haven't been running the testsuites, but I'm doing that now to make > > sure that their dependencies are met. > > Good man! As has already been seen with perl and db, and I think a > locale for co

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess clfs doesn't have this problem because it is using a newer > snapshot of glibc. Does that seem reasonable ? Greg once posted a reference to an upstream bug report. But I don't know whether it is fixed or not. One way to find out is b

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Tushar Teredesai wrote: Maybe one of the package does this. Try this to verify that it is indeed a problem with ldconfig. Compile readline as follows: ./configure --prefix=/tmp/readline make make install make install ls -l /tmp/read

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how to fix them, or someone else could just

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Tushar Teredesai wrote: Maybe one of the package does this. Try this to verify that it is indeed a problem with ldconfig. Compile readline as follows: ./configure --prefix=/tmp/readline make make install make install ls -l /tmp/readline/lib ldconfig -n /tmp/readline/lib ls

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My script makes no explicit calls to ldconfig. > > Maybe one of the package does this. Try this to verify that it is indeed a problem with ldconfig. Compile readline as follows: ./configure --prefix=/tmp/readline make make install make install

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Tushar Teredesai wrote: On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On the non-alphabetic book, with utf8, I never managed to track down why updating readline in place was leaving the symlinks pointing to .old. FWIW clfs (ppc) was ok for that, so it must have been

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 1/27/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the non-alphabetic book, with utf8, I never managed to track down > why updating readline in place was leaving the symlinks pointing to > .old. FWIW clfs (ppc) was ok for that, so it must have been a problem > specific to the non-alphabeti

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
Long ago, On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: Hi again, Here's some results from my ICA/Farce run of yesterday. They show that the system will rebuild itself with the exception of a couple things that probably won't be fixed by me. (stdc++ .la and gch differences) These exi

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matthew Burgess wrote: > 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title > isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the > discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how to fix > them, or someone else could just post patches and I'

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/25/06, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > Unfortunately, the *startfile_prefix_spec doesn't work (at least for > > me) on gcc-4.0.2. > > How did you test it? I found during my initial research that this spec > doesn't work when placed into an external file Gu

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/25/06, Matthew Burgess > > What I'd like to do now is: > > 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title > isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the > discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how to fix > them, or someo

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Greg Schafer
Dan Nicholson wrote: > Unfortunately, the *startfile_prefix_spec doesn't work (at least for > me) on gcc-4.0.2. How did you test it? I found during my initial research that this spec doesn't work when placed into an external file and called with eg: -specs=/tmp/specs. However, it did work when th

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
that thread is true. I did some analyis shortly afterwards. See this post for some long-winded results. http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2006-January/055149.html Having done the ICA, I can say that there is enough redundancy that the stripped binaries are not different when t

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Greg Schafer
Matthew Burgess wrote: > 1) Have the two toolchain bugs (1675 and 1677 - note that 1675's title > isn't entirely accurate!) fixed in LFS trunk. I'd need to re-read the > discussions on those two to figure out quite what's wrong and how to fix > them, or someone else could just post patches and

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Matthew Burgess
Dan Nicholson wrote: Hi again, Here's some results from my ICA/Farce run of yesterday. They show that the system will rebuild itself with the exception of a couple things that probably won't be fixed by me. (stdc++ .la and gch differences) These exist whether I use the LFS or DIY

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 07:24:13AM -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > Also, as Greg once mentioned, I'm a little interested in putting > > ICA/farce support usage into jhalfs. That too, might make the work a bit > > easier. If you feel like helping with that as well...

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/24/06, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, if you could spell out your steps exactly when doing an ICA (or > point me to the thread if you've said before and I missed it) that might > help - more might offer to start running the comparisons. Fortunat

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: > Also, I might be a little worn out on ICA to do this, but we've only > determined the true dependencies for about half the packages in Ch. 6. > I was thinking that I might reverse the order to see what happens > with the packages at the end of the alphab

Re: Alphabetical UTF-8 Build is ICA Verified

2006-01-24 Thread Dan Nicholson
st notes on this. The order was pretty much in place before I started playing with it. I only discovered a couple significant changes. I never really figured out which packages depend on things from /tools, but aren't linked to them. Hopefully Chris has better info than I do. Also, I might

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