Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-09 Thread William Harrington
On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:42 PM, xinglp wrote: > wpa_supplicant support systemd already. Yeah, I had it going with systemd long ago, but without systemd- networkd. Looks like as long as you have all the configuration setup properly it will work fine. I haven't tried it with systemd-networkd, yet.

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread xinglp
2014-04-09 10:12 GMT+08:00 William Harrington : > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:00 PM, xinglp wrote: > >>> Wouldn't it be the easiest way to let systemd configure the network >>> interfaces? >> It works well for my problemed vmware. I think we don't need ifup >> ifdown script for systemd now. > > It's be

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread William Harrington
On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:00 PM, xinglp wrote: >> Wouldn't it be the easiest way to let systemd configure the network >> interfaces? > It works well for my problemed vmware. I think we don't need ifup > ifdown script for systemd now. It's best to let systemd's networkd deal with all of the network.

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread xinglp
2014-04-08 22:50 GMT+08:00 Sebastian Plotz : > Am 08.04.2014 16:40, schrieb xinglp: >> $ journalctl -b|grep enp >> Apr 08 22:37:25 vm1 ifup[123]: Adding IPv4 address 192.168.3.1 to the >> enp4s0 interface...Cannot find device "enp4s0" >> Apr 08 22:37:26 vm1 systemd-udevd[173]: renamed network inter

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread xinglp
2014-04-09 0:07 GMT+08:00 Bruce Dubbs : > xinglp wrote: >> $ journalctl -b|grep enp >> Apr 08 22:37:25 vm1 ifup[123]: Adding IPv4 address 192.168.3.1 to the >> enp4s0 interface...Cannot find device "enp4s0" >> Apr 08 22:37:26 vm1 systemd-udevd[173]: renamed network interface eth0 to >> enp4s0 >> >

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread xinglp
2014-04-08 22:50 GMT+08:00 Sebastian Plotz : > Am 08.04.2014 16:40, schrieb xinglp: >> $ journalctl -b|grep enp >> Apr 08 22:37:25 vm1 ifup[123]: Adding IPv4 address 192.168.3.1 to the >> enp4s0 interface...Cannot find device "enp4s0" >> Apr 08 22:37:26 vm1 systemd-udevd[173]: renamed network inter

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread xinglp
2014-04-09 0:07 GMT+08:00 Bruce Dubbs : > xinglp wrote: >> $ journalctl -b|grep enp >> Apr 08 22:37:25 vm1 ifup[123]: Adding IPv4 address 192.168.3.1 to the >> enp4s0 interface...Cannot find device "enp4s0" >> Apr 08 22:37:26 vm1 systemd-udevd[173]: renamed network interface eth0 to >> enp4s0 >> >

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
xinglp wrote: > $ journalctl -b|grep enp > Apr 08 22:37:25 vm1 ifup[123]: Adding IPv4 address 192.168.3.1 to the > enp4s0 interface...Cannot find device "enp4s0" > Apr 08 22:37:26 vm1 systemd-udevd[173]: renamed network interface eth0 to > enp4s0 > > So it won't startup network. Are you using /et

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread Sebastian Plotz
Am 08.04.2014 16:40, schrieb xinglp: > $ journalctl -b|grep enp > Apr 08 22:37:25 vm1 ifup[123]: Adding IPv4 address 192.168.3.1 to the > enp4s0 interface...Cannot find device "enp4s0" > Apr 08 22:37:26 vm1 systemd-udevd[173]: renamed network interface eth0 to > enp4s0 > > So it won't startup netw

[lfs-dev] systemd ifup get run before systemd rename interface sometimes.

2014-04-08 Thread xinglp
$ journalctl -b|grep enp Apr 08 22:37:25 vm1 ifup[123]: Adding IPv4 address 192.168.3.1 to the enp4s0 interface...Cannot find device "enp4s0" Apr 08 22:37:26 vm1 systemd-udevd[173]: renamed network interface eth0 to enp4s0 So it won't startup network. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listin

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-04-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
matthew wrote: > It's been a while since I looked at it, but which of systemd's > utilities doesn't adhere to the 'do one job and do it well' > philosophy? I've already removed that verbage, but see below. > I see systemd as a collection of utilities much like > coreutils and util-linux. I'd agre

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-04-01 Thread matthew
To: LFS Developers Mailinglist Subject: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V I've been working on rewriting Chapter 7 to incorporate systemd. I've come up with the following text in the introduction and would like feedback. Thanks, -- Bruce 7.1.1. System V System V is the classic boot proc

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-03-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 01:26:46PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >> The init program is controlled by the /etc/inittab file and is organized >> into run levels that can be run by the user: >> >> 0 — halt >> 1 — Single user mode >> 2 — Multiuser, without networki

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-03-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 01:26:46PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > The init program is controlled by the /etc/inittab file and is organized > into run levels that can be run by the user: > > 0 — halt > 1 — Single user mode > 2 — Multiuser, without networking > 3 — Full multiuse

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-03-31 Thread Abubakr-Sadik Nii Nai Davis
Hello Bruce, >> - Serial processing of boot tasks. This is related to the previous > >> point. A delay in any process such as a file system check, will deleay > >> the entire boot process. > Typo in the second line above. "will deleay" should read "will delay". Regards Nii Nai -- http://li

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-03-31 Thread Armin K.
On 03/31/2014 09:20 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: > Le 31/03/2014 20:26, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : >> I've been working on rewriting Chapter 7 to incorporate systemd. I've >> come up with the following text in the introduction and would like >> feedback. Thanks, >> >>-- Bruce >> >> 7.1.1. System V

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-03-31 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 31/03/2014 20:26, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : > I've been working on rewriting Chapter 7 to incorporate systemd. I've > come up with the following text in the introduction and would like > feedback. Thanks, > >-- Bruce > > 7.1.1. System V > > System V is the classic boot process that has be

[lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-03-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been working on rewriting Chapter 7 to incorporate systemd. I've come up with the following text in the introduction and would like feedback. Thanks, -- Bruce 7.1.1. System V System V is the classic boot process that has been used in Unix and Unix-like systems such as Linux since ab

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-210 problem

2014-03-08 Thread John Burrell
>> Can I try your patch please? >> > > Archlinux also enables compat-libs, but as I said, they're useless on > LFS since you don't actually link against them - they're necessary if > you have programs linked to it and are going through a transition to the > new lib. > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-210 problem

2014-03-07 Thread Armin K.
On 03/08/2014 01:04 AM, John Burrell wrote: >>> >> >> systemd version of lfs has systemd-208. 210 is in terrible shape. >> systemd-209 merged those libraries into one library - libsystemd.so and >> all apps now link against it. --enable-compat-libs enable those >> libraries and their pkg-config fil

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-210 problem

2014-03-07 Thread John Burrell
>> > > systemd version of lfs has systemd-208. 210 is in terrible shape. > systemd-209 merged those libraries into one library - libsystemd.so and > all apps now link against it. --enable-compat-libs enable those > libraries and their pkg-config files, but those libraries shouldn't be > linked agai

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-210 problem

2014-03-07 Thread Armin K.
On 03/07/2014 11:54 PM, John Burrell wrote: > As 210 is the latest version, I thought I'd try it in the systemd version of > LFS. > > Without gudev it doesn't install: > > /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libsystemd-daemon.pc > /usr/lib/pkgconfiglibsystemd-journal.pc > /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libsystemd-login.pc >

[lfs-dev] systemd-210 problem

2014-03-07 Thread John Burrell
As 210 is the latest version, I thought I'd try it in the systemd version of LFS. Without gudev it doesn't install: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libsystemd-daemon.pc /usr/lib/pkgconfiglibsystemd-journal.pc /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libsystemd-login.pc Without these files dbus-1.8.0 won't recognise that systemd

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd problem with libcap-2.23

2014-01-03 Thread Armin K.
On 01/04/2014 03:05 AM, Ivan Wagner wrote: > On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 08:49:42PM +0100, Armin K. wrote: >> Systemd branch doesn't yet have libcap-2.23 because of that reason. I >> was waiting for fix to land in BLFS before I could merge the changes. >> Revert to 2.22 or use patch from BLFS to fix th

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd problem with libcap-2.23

2014-01-03 Thread Ivan Wagner
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 08:49:42PM +0100, Armin K. wrote: > Systemd branch doesn't yet have libcap-2.23 because of that reason. I > was waiting for fix to land in BLFS before I could merge the changes. > Revert to 2.22 or use patch from BLFS to fix the issue. > > Also, Follow book, book good. Wha

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd problem with libcap-2.23

2014-01-03 Thread John Burrell
> > Systemd branch doesn't yet have libcap-2.23 because of that reason. I > was waiting for fix to land in BLFS before I could merge the changes. > Revert to 2.22 or use patch from BLFS to fix the issue. > > Also, Follow book, book good. > Yes, but have to go off-piste for the real excitement - an

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd problem with libcap-2.23

2014-01-03 Thread Chris Staub
On 01/03/14 14:47, John Burrell wrote: > I'm building the systemd version of LFS > > When I configure systemd-208 with libcap-2.23 I get: > > checking sys/capability.h usability... no > checking sys/capability.h presence... no > checking for sys/capability.h... no > configure: error: *** POSIX caps

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd problem with libcap-2.23

2014-01-03 Thread Armin K.
On 01/03/2014 08:47 PM, John Burrell wrote: > I'm building the systemd version of LFS > > When I configure systemd-208 with libcap-2.23 I get: > > checking sys/capability.h usability... no > checking sys/capability.h presence... no > checking for sys/capability.h... no > configure: error: *** POS

[lfs-dev] systemd problem with libcap-2.23

2014-01-03 Thread John Burrell
I'm building the systemd version of LFS When I configure systemd-208 with libcap-2.23 I get: checking sys/capability.h usability... no checking sys/capability.h presence... no checking for sys/capability.h... no configure: error: *** POSIX caps headers not found The file /usr/include/sys/capabil

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-24 Thread John Burrell
. >>> >>> You can clone lfs-systemd book using svn co >>> svn://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/branches/systemd >> >> A small request re. the svn cloning - >> >> When the book is downloaded using svn, it creates systemd/BOOK >> which contains all the files except one dir. >> >> The directory .svn doe

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
John Burrell wrote: > A small request re. the svn cloning - > > When the book is downloaded using svn, it creates systemd/BOOK > which contains all the files except one dir. > > The directory .svn doesn't sit under BOOK, it's under systemd. > > Would you change it please so that .svn is under BOOK

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-24 Thread Armin K.
On 12/24/2013 07:39 PM, John Burrell wrote: >> Hello there, >> >> After many months since lfs systemd branch was created, I am pleased to >> announce that I consider it being usable for everyone that wants to use it. >> >> I've managed to add missing bits to the branch today and doing that I've >>

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-24 Thread John Burrell
> Hello there, > > After many months since lfs systemd branch was created, I am pleased to > announce that I consider it being usable for everyone that wants to use it. > > I've managed to add missing bits to the branch today and doing that I've > finished what it was necessarry to bring it up to p

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-21 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
>On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:55:30 +0100 >"Armin K." wrote: > > Hello there, > > After many months since lfs systemd branch was created, I am pleased > to announce that I consider it being usable for everyone that wants > to use it. > > I've managed to add missing bits to the branch today and doing t

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 21/12/2013 21:55, Armin K. a écrit : > Hello there, > > After many months since lfs systemd branch was created, I am pleased to > announce that I consider it being usable for everyone that wants to use it. > > I've managed to add missing bits to the branch today and doing that I've > finished

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-21 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 21/12/2013 22:27, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : > Armin K. wrote: >> Hello there, >> >> After many months since lfs systemd branch was created, I am pleased to >> announce that I consider it being usable for everyone that wants to use it. >> >> I've managed to add missing bits to the branch today and do

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-21 Thread Armin K.
On 12/21/2013 10:27 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: [the very long post] > > Thanks for that Armin. One question. Do you know if it will build with > jhalfs? I suspect one would only need to change the 'Loc of working > copy', but I haven't tried it. > >-- Bruce I don't know about jhalfs since

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-21 Thread Dan McGhee
On 12/21/2013 02:55 PM, Armin K. wrote: > Hello there, > > After many months since lfs systemd branch was created, I am pleased to > announce that I consider it being usable for everyone that wants to use it. > > I've managed to add missing bits to the branch today and doing that I've > finished wh

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > Hello there, > > After many months since lfs systemd branch was created, I am pleased to > announce that I consider it being usable for everyone that wants to use it. > > I've managed to add missing bits to the branch today and doing that I've > finished what it was necessarry to

[lfs-dev] Systemd branch now considered usable

2013-12-21 Thread Armin K.
Hello there, After many months since lfs systemd branch was created, I am pleased to announce that I consider it being usable for everyone that wants to use it. I've managed to add missing bits to the branch today and doing that I've finished what it was necessarry to bring it up to par with curr

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd discussions

2013-12-14 Thread Kevin Lyda
I actually largely agree with you technically. Though if sysd is being modularized, taking it into LFS and experimenting with that might be interesting. The ad hominem attacks just aren't helping your argument. And I don't really think they do much to encourage real technical discussions about a c

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd discussions

2013-12-14 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:06:17 + > From: Kevin Lyda > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: [lfs-dev] systemd discussions > > Dear children, > > I for one would appreciate it if the discussions about systemd would be > solely about the technical issues and n

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd discussions

2013-12-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Dec 13, 2013 2:06 PM, "Kevin Lyda" wrote: > > Dear children, > > I for one would appreciate it if the discussions about systemd would be solely about the technical issues and not a contest to see who can be the biggest prat. > > With much love and affection, > > Kevin Reminds me of Linux 2.4

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd discussions

2013-12-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:06:17PM +, Kevin Lyda wrote: > Dear children, > > I for one would appreciate it if the discussions about systemd would be > solely about the technical issues and not a contest to see who can be the > biggest prat. > > With much love and affection, > > Kevin That

[lfs-dev] systemd discussions

2013-12-13 Thread Kevin Lyda
Dear children, I for one would appreciate it if the discussions about systemd would be solely about the technical issues and not a contest to see who can be the biggest prat. With much love and affection, Kevin -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscr

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: > Hmmm. Wasn't gnome one of the main causes of blfs getting itself into a > never-coherent-enough-for-release tailspin: No, it was just a volume of changes and available editor time problem. Even now, BLFS needs to update, on average, 4 packages a day. LFS has a lot less churn a

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-13 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 17:14:45 -0600 > From: Bruce Dubbs > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive > > Armin K. wrote: > > On 12/11/2013 11:33 PM, Matt Burgess wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Those of

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-13 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 23:45:50 -0800 > From: Nathan Coulson > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive > . . > to systemd when you were previously working on it (Although sortof a > love/hate relationship with it. I

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-12 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Armin K. wrote: > On 12/11/2013 11:33 PM, Matt Burgess wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Those of you who follow lfs-book will have seen some commits fly by from >> Armin, who asked to be granted access to work on the systemd branch. As >> I've been lacking time recently, a

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-12 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 11-12-2013 20:14, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: > Armin K. wrote: >> On 12/11/2013 11:33 PM, Matt Burgess wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Those of you who follow lfs-book will have seen some commits fly by from >>> Armin, who asked to be granted access to work on the systemd branch. As >>> I've been lacking

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-12 Thread Ragnar Thomsen
On Wednesday 11 December 2013 23:52:45 Armin K. wrote: > For those that don't know, you can read systemd version of the book > online at [1]. > > Please note that I've just applied systemd specific changes to lfs > development book which was the most current at the time, but didn't yet > run any t

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 12/11/2013 11:33 PM, Matt Burgess wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Those of you who follow lfs-book will have seen some commits fly by from >> Armin, who asked to be granted access to work on the systemd branch. As >> I've been lacking time recently, and lost a bit of motivation for >>

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-11 Thread Armin K.
On 12/11/2013 11:33 PM, Matt Burgess wrote: > Hi all, > > Those of you who follow lfs-book will have seen some commits fly by from > Armin, who asked to be granted access to work on the systemd branch. As > I've been lacking time recently, and lost a bit of motivation for > maintaining the branch

[lfs-dev] Systemd branch is alive

2013-12-11 Thread Matt Burgess
Hi all, Those of you who follow lfs-book will have seen some commits fly by from Armin, who asked to be granted access to work on the systemd branch. As I've been lacking time recently, and lost a bit of motivation for maintaining the branch myself, I was happy to accept the offer of help. Welco

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd version - help needed?

2013-11-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Christoph Vigano wrote: > Hello guys, > > I just found the systemd version of the LFS guide the other day and I > like the idea of providing this alternative init system in a separate guide. > > But it seems - so the IRC channel told me - that this guide won't be > maintained anytime soon. > > As I

[lfs-dev] systemd version - help needed?

2013-11-04 Thread Christoph Vigano
Hello guys, I just found the systemd version of the LFS guide the other day and I like the idea of providing this alternative init system in a separate guide. But it seems - so the IRC channel told me - that this guide won't be maintained anytime soon. As I am using systemd actively under Arch L

[lfs-dev] systemd, and bridged network interfaces

2013-08-19 Thread Nathan Coulson
Took me a while to figure out, but to enable a interface on startup you need to enable it as so: systemctl enable ifupdown@br0 But it also has the following in the ifupdown@service: Requires=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device As br0 (Bridged device) is

Re: [lfs-dev] [Systemd branch] report on building lfs-systemd

2013-05-27 Thread Thierry Nuttens
All this dependencies, it's amazing and still it seems to be some missing. I did not found any man page for example for systemd. 2013/5/27 Pierre Labastie > Le 27/05/2013 11:45, Thierry Nuttens a écrit : > > Hello Pierre, > > > > I did a try of your systemd based LFS. It's working quite impres

Re: [lfs-dev] [Systemd branch] report on building lfs-systemd

2013-05-27 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 27/05/2013 11:45, Thierry Nuttens a écrit : > Hello Pierre, > > I did a try of your systemd based LFS. It's working quite impressive. > Meanwhile I have a big question in my face. Do we really want that > systemd is crawling everywhere. It's really a strange feeling I have > to say. A lot of h

Re: [lfs-dev] [Systemd branch] report on building lfs-systemd

2013-05-27 Thread Thierry Nuttens
Hello Pierre, I did a try of your systemd based LFS. It's working quite impressive. Meanwhile I have a big question in my face. Do we really want that systemd is crawling everywhere. It's really a strange feeling I have to say. A lot of habits are change. Have a nice day Thierry 2013/5/19 Pier

Re: [lfs-dev] [Systemd branch] report on building lfs-systemd

2013-05-19 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 19/05/2013 19:39, Armin K. a écrit : > On 05/19/2013 06:41 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: >> on the systemd page, there are configure options >> --with-kbd-loadkeys=/bin/loadkeys \ >> --with-kbd-setfont=/bin/setfont \ > > I have removed that yesterday iirc. Right, sorry.

Re: [lfs-dev] [Systemd branch] report on building lfs-systemd

2013-05-19 Thread Armin K.
On 05/19/2013 06:41 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > Don't know whether I should raise a ticket for the > systemd branch. For now, I make this message about my > last build (using tweaked jhalfs, which I'll commit soon, but I > need a few more tests). > > I found 4 issues, the first one being e

Re: [lfs-dev] [Systemd branch] report on building lfs-systemd

2013-05-19 Thread Matt Burgess
On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 18:41 +0200, Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > Don't know whether I should raise a ticket for the > systemd branch. For now, I make this message about my > last build (using tweaked jhalfs, which I'll commit soon, but I > need a few more tests). Hi Pierre, Could you raise ti

[lfs-dev] [Systemd branch] report on building lfs-systemd

2013-05-19 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi, Don't know whether I should raise a ticket for the systemd branch. For now, I make this message about my last build (using tweaked jhalfs, which I'll commit soon, but I need a few more tests). I found 4 issues, the first one being easy to fix: on the systemd page, there are configure options

[lfs-dev] [systemd branch] One coreutils test fails

2013-03-17 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi, When building the systemd branch of LFS, one of the coreutils tests fails: FAIL: tests/df/skip-rootfs.sh That test is skipped if `df' exits with nonzero code. This is what happens on trunk LFS, because /etc/mtab is empty. Now, on systemd branch, /etc/mtab is a symbolic link to /proc/self/moun

Re: [lfs-dev] [systemd branch] typo in glibc chapter 6

2013-03-05 Thread Matt Burgess
On Tue, 2013-03-05 at 23:39 +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: > I guess the /etc/localtime link should be the other way around: > ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/ /etc/localtime > > (and also could be ln -sv) Thanks again! Fixed in r10196. Regards, Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinf

[lfs-dev] [systemd branch] typo in glibc chapter 6

2013-03-05 Thread Pierre Labastie
I guess the /etc/localtime link should be the other way around: ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/ /etc/localtime (and also could be ln -sv) Regards Pierre -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [lfs-dev] [systemd branch] Why is XML::Parser on the same page as Perl?

2013-03-03 Thread Matt Burgess
On Sun, 2013-03-03 at 11:14 -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: > I agree completely with Pierre on this one. There really is no reason > I can think of that XML::Parser cannot have its own page for package > management simplicity. I agree with Randy, Bruce, and half-with, half-against Pierre :-) I thi

Re: [lfs-dev] [systemd branch] Why is XML::Parser on the same page as Perl?

2013-03-03 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 03/02/13 11:28 CST: > Dana 2.3.2013 18:14, Pierre Labastie je napisao: >> I do not understand why the above has been done. >> I understand XML::Parser is a Perl module. >> But glibc (for example) is a C library, and we do not >> put it on the same page as GCC... I agr

Re: [lfs-dev] [systemd branch] post-install instructions as remap="install"

2013-03-03 Thread Matt Burgess
On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 20:29 +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: > There are (at least) to places in the systemd book > where post install instructions are inside a > tag. > > for dbus: > dbus-uuidgen --ensure > > for systemd: > systemd-machine-id-setup > > I suggest they are moved to a remap="config

[lfs-dev] [systemd branch] post-install instructions as remap="install"

2013-03-02 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi again, Still trying to sort out issues with jhalfs package management... There are (at least) to places in the systemd book where post install instructions are inside a tag. for dbus: dbus-uuidgen --ensure for systemd: systemd-machine-id-setup I suggest they are moved to a remap="configura

Re: [lfs-dev] [systemd branch] Why is XML::Parser on the same page as Perl?

2013-03-02 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 02/03/2013 18:28, Armin K. a écrit : > Dana 2.3.2013 18:14, Pierre Labastie je napisao: >> Date: Fri Feb 15 10:17:18 2013 >> New Revision: 10154 >> >> Log: >> Merge XML::Parser into Perl page. >> >> Hi, >> >> I do not understand why the above has been done. >> I understand X

Re: [lfs-dev] [systemd branch] Why is XML::Parser on the same page as Perl?

2013-03-02 Thread Armin K.
Dana 2.3.2013 18:14, Pierre Labastie je napisao: > Date: Fri Feb 15 10:17:18 2013 > New Revision: 10154 > > Log: > Merge XML::Parser into Perl page. > > Hi, > > I do not understand why the above has been done. > I understand XML::Parser is a Perl module. > But glibc (for exampl

[lfs-dev] [systemd branch] Why is XML::Parser on the same page as Perl?

2013-03-02 Thread Pierre Labastie
Date: Fri Feb 15 10:17:18 2013 New Revision: 10154 Log: Merge XML::Parser into Perl page. Hi, I do not understand why the above has been done. I understand XML::Parser is a Perl module. But glibc (for example) is a C library, and we do not put it on the same page as GCC... M

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd service files

2013-03-01 Thread Armin K.
Dana 1.3.2013 22:34, John Burrell je napisao: >> >> $ cat /lib/systemd/system/mysqld.service >> [Unit] >> Description=MySQL Server >> After=network.target >> >> [Service] >> User=mysql >> Group=mysql >> ExecStart=/usr/bin/mysqld --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid >> Restart=always >> PrivateTmp=

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd service files

2013-03-01 Thread John Burrell
> > $ cat /lib/systemd/system/mysqld.service > [Unit] > Description=MySQL Server > After=network.target > > [Service] > User=mysql > Group=mysql > ExecStart=/usr/bin/mysqld --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid > Restart=always > PrivateTmp=true > > [Install] > WantedBy=multi-user.target > > $ cat

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd service files

2013-03-01 Thread Armin K.
On 03/01/2013 08:00 PM, John Burrell wrote: > I installed lfs with systemd and encountered no problems at all - to my mild > surprise. > > Encouraged by this, I've been adding blfs packages and have now come up > against the question of starting various daemons. > > For example, I installed mysql

[lfs-dev] systemd service files

2013-03-01 Thread John Burrell
I installed lfs with systemd and encountered no problems at all - to my mild surprise. Encouraged by this, I've been adding blfs packages and have now come up against the question of starting various daemons. For example, I installed mysql and used the mysql.service file from Arch-Linux as a g

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch created

2013-02-18 Thread cybertao
Yeah, I think there were a couple of things out of place or missing. It's been a while since I compiled LFS so was sort of fuddling through it anyway. The post-LFS hint the and how-to someone posted in the blfs mailing list helped a lot. I'm about to try it again, this time in 32-bit. I'll write

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch created

2013-02-15 Thread Armin K.
On 02/15/2013 05:31 AM, cybertao wrote: > I just finished building this, ironed out my mistakes (journald barfing > because there's no machine-id is a good one!), and couldn't be more > pleased with myself. And immensely grateful for all the work that went > into this. > > Thanks. > > I'm glad I'

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch created

2013-02-15 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:31:05 +1300, cybertao wrote: > I just finished building this, ironed out my mistakes (journald barfing > because there's no machine-id is a good one!), and couldn't be more > pleased > with myself. And immensely grateful for all the work that went into this. Thanks for the

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch created

2013-02-14 Thread cybertao
I just finished building this, ironed out my mistakes (journald barfing because there's no machine-id is a good one!), and couldn't be more pleased with myself. And immensely grateful for all the work that went into this. Thanks. On 6 February 2013 10:34, Matt Burgess wrote: > Hi all, > > I'v

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matt Burgess wrote: > On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 15:28 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Matt Burgess wrote: >> >>> >>> I think that's the problem. My host (Fedora 18) calls my eth0 device >>> p5p1. >> >> What on earth are they doing? The link >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Predictable

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Matt Burgess
On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 15:28 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Matt Burgess wrote: > > > > > I think that's the problem. My host (Fedora 18) calls my eth0 device > > p5p1. > > What on earth are they doing? The link > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames >

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matt Burgess wrote: > > I think that's the problem. My host (Fedora 18) calls my eth0 device > p5p1. What on earth are they doing? The link http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames indicates names starting with en. Without the en, it doesn't make th

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Matt Burgess
On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 14:03 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Armin K. wrote: > > On 02/13/2013 08:46 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Armin K. wrote: > >>> lfs net-rules are prefixed with 70 while systemd net rules are prefixed > >>> with 80. systemd net rules are ran *after* lfs ones and they basicaly > >>>

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 02/13/2013 08:46 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Armin K. wrote: >>> lfs net-rules are prefixed with 70 while systemd net rules are prefixed >>> with 80. systemd net rules are ran *after* lfs ones and they basicaly >>> overwrite them. >> >> But 80-net-name-slot.rules is skipped inter

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Armin K.
On 02/13/2013 08:46 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Armin K. wrote: >> lfs net-rules are prefixed with 70 while systemd net rules are prefixed >> with 80. systemd net rules are ran *after* lfs ones and they basicaly >> overwrite them. > > But 80-net-name-slot.rules is skipped internally if NAME!="" and we

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 02/13/2013 08:16 PM, Matt Burgess wrote: >> On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 13:01 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> Thomas Trepl wrote: Hi all, you may have noticed or probably read in other articles that systemd introduced a new device naming scheme starting with version

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Armin K.
On 02/13/2013 08:16 PM, Matt Burgess wrote: > On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 13:01 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Thomas Trepl wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> you may have noticed or probably read in other articles that systemd >>> introduced a new device naming scheme starting with version 197. Doing >>> nothing

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matt Burgess wrote: > On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 13:01 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Thomas Trepl wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> you may have noticed or probably read in other articles that systemd >>> introduced a new device naming scheme starting with version 197. Doing >>> nothing >>> will result in devi

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Matt Burgess
On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 13:01 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Thomas Trepl wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > you may have noticed or probably read in other articles that systemd > > introduced a new device naming scheme starting with version 197. Doing > > nothing > > will result in device names like enp5s0 in

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Thomas Trepl wrote: > Hi all, > > you may have noticed or probably read in other articles that systemd > introduced a new device naming scheme starting with version 197. Doing nothing > will result in device names like enp5s0 instead of eth0. It depends on the BIOS. Older systems will not produce

[lfs-dev] systemd-197 device naming

2013-02-13 Thread Thomas Trepl
Hi all, you may have noticed or probably read in other articles that systemd introduced a new device naming scheme starting with version 197. Doing nothing will result in device names like enp5s0 instead of eth0. A simple way to prevent systemd (the udev part of it) to rename devices is to cre

Re: [lfs-dev] Systemd branch created

2013-02-05 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Matt Burgess wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just created a systemd branch for LFS. The intention behind this > is to provide a version of the book with systemd fully integrated, > without the need for post-lfs changes. This in no way means that > systemd will make it i

[lfs-dev] Systemd branch created

2013-02-05 Thread Matt Burgess
Hi all, I've just created a systemd branch for LFS. The intention behind this is to provide a version of the book with systemd fully integrated, without the need for post-lfs changes. This in no way means that systemd will make it into the book at any point, but it should help folks out that wan

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd 196

2012-11-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Aleksey Rybalkin wrote: > Hi Bruce. > > I suggest to move `udevadm hwdb --update` up to the chapter in the book > (from Makefile.lfs). With that change fakeroot/DESTDIR folks can easily > move that line to their post-upgrades/post-installs. > > Right now `make DESTDIR= -f udev-lfs-196/Makefile.lfs

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd 196

2012-11-23 Thread Aleksey Rybalkin
Hi Bruce. I suggest to move `udevadm hwdb --update` up to the chapter in the book (from Makefile.lfs). With that change fakeroot/DESTDIR folks can easily move that line to their post-upgrades/post-installs. Right now `make DESTDIR= -f udev-lfs-196/Makefile.lfs install` does not work with that ins

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd 196

2012-11-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: > >> *Presumably* (without having actually looked at it) this database would >> be mapping from hardware IDs (vendor/device pairs, etc.) to human >> readable description strings, so I'd be surprised if 105 bytes was >> sufficient, yeah. Is there anything r

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd 196

2012-11-22 Thread Tobias Gasser
Am 21.11.2012 18:21, schrieb Bruce Dubbs: > I've been testing udev from systemd-196. I have been able to build and > install it with some changes to the LFS Makefile. One new capability is > that it has it's own hw database instead of lspci and lsusb. udev/systemd gets uglier with each release...

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