KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread rhartwi...@juno.com
Colin, There is a lot of band width "wasted" on a lot of subjects. Check the archives for "Congratulations"--there isn't much info under that topic--and it takes up a lot of bandwidth, but it does serve to encourage builders. We could just tell everyone who has questions on any KR subject to forg

KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
rom: rhartwi...@juno.com > Date: 2006/07/28 Fri AM 09:51:18 EDT > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Making KR ELSA > > Colin, > There is a lot of band width "wasted" on a lot of subjects. Check the > archives for "Congratulations"--there isn't muc

KR> Making KR ELSA - rebuttle

2008-10-12 Thread Rick Human
hed that an LSA KR would not still be a KR - I don't remember taking a vote! BTW Dana is building a RV-7 not a 8. Now can we play nice and quit trying to divide the list into opposing camps? Rick Human Houston, Texas - Original Message ----- From: To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, Ju

KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread rhartwi...@juno.com
Thankfully it is still Friday!! Let's see.I think I finally have it. It is a KR if you: stretch it 14 inches, make it 6 inches wider, make the sides vertical, build it 200+ pounds over plans gross wt., use a different airfoil, install an O235, change the horizontal airfoil, use Dr. Dean Hinges,

KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
Thanks for bringing some constructive "insight" to the list Rich. Your points are all well made and need to be considered by anyone wishing to carry on in the tradition that Ken Rand really intended for the KR. It is supposed to be a simple, lightweight, efficient aircraft that can be built b

KR> Making KR ELSA - rebuttle

2008-10-12 Thread Kevin Angus
On Behalf Of Rick Human Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:58 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Making KR ELSA - rebuttle Pardon me but I didn't snip the note below because it confuses me a great deal - first I don't understand why 3 or 4 members of the list seem so dead against a discussion

KR> Making KR ELSA - rebuttle

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
First it's a LSA, and second, you can't possibly be serious about "dangerous" landings in a motorglider with 27 foot wings. We regularly land gliders with 40 to 60 foot wingspans, with and without motors, in 20 to 30 mile an hour crosswinds. Yes you do need some training, but its not dangerou

KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Rich Hartwig wrote: > Let's see.I think I finally have it. > It is a KR if you: > stretch it 14 inches, > make it 6 inches wider, > make the sides vertical, > build it 200+ pounds over plans gross wt., > use a different airfoil, > install an O235, > change the horizontal airfoil, > use Dr. Dea

KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
I deleted these posts, after reading them. If it says LSA or ELSA, I usually delete them after a quick scan, but these looked like they were worth reading, so I did. And, after leaving the computer, I found that I was still thinking about the points that both Rich and Dennis made. They are both

KR> Making KR ELSA - rebuttle

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
Rick I had a friend email me a photo of his KR and the following comments, His has a stall of 36 kts Others in Australia has fitted 27 foot + wing span and dropped the stall speed down to improve the ultra light rego. Note sure if this is what you guys are on about? Phil Thought you may like

KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
Thanks Dan, I appreciate your comments. You're right of course, unfortunately we will never know what Ken would have done had things turned out differently. What I meant by "simple" was that the original KR-1 and 2 were, retractable gear aside, "simple" and simply constructed aircraft. Ther

KR> Making KR ELSA - rebuttle

2008-10-12 Thread James Ferris
Hey! show us the pictures . that is one way to do it, but just changing the airfoil to a low speed airifoil could also solve both problems of stall speed and top speed. Sincerely jim On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:24:54 +1000 "Phil Matheson" writes: > Rick > I had a friend email me a photo of his KR and

KR> Making KR ELSA -/ Photo's

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
Hey! show us the pictures . that is one way to do it, but just changing the airfoil to a low speed airifoil could also solve both problems of stall speed and top speed. Sincerely jim - Sorry guys the 50 meg site will not (at the moment) let me add to my web page so I c

KR> Making KR ELSA -/ Photo's

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
---Original Message--- From: Phil Matheson List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 07/29/06 18:05:19 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Making KR ELSA -/ Photo's Hey! show us the pictures . that is one way to do it, but just changing the airfoil to a low speed airifoil could also solve both problems

KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread herbertsn...@netscape.net
Each KR is a unique aircraft not a production a/c or ELSA production. Everyone sees that the LSA exceed the FAA weights, speed V max & V stall and as far as I can see the FAA doesn't really make anyone PROVE that the "numbers" conform. Its just hype! So that in reality someone can make a "resemb

KR> Making KR ELSA

2008-10-12 Thread beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
there and then do what you think is best. Lets not start this thread over again... Colin N96TA Ormond Beach, FL > > From: herbertsn...@netscape.net > Date: 2006/07/27 Thu PM 12:27:01 EDT > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Making KR ELSA > > Each KR is a unique aircraft