Thanks for bringing some constructive "insight" to the list Rich. Your points are all well made and need to be considered by anyone wishing to carry on in the tradition that Ken Rand really intended for the KR.
It is supposed to be a simple, lightweight, efficient aircraft that can be built by anyone with a minimum of tools and construction skills. I'm amazed at how many KR's cruise under the eLSA speed limit and just how few "stock" KR's actually cruise at 180 mph. Nothing wrong with dreaming though, that's what makes couch flying so much fun! The KR can be made to "work" in the LSA box by simply building light, 950 pound empty weight and using an 1835 vw instead of a Corvair or 0200. Notice that this is very close to the 980 pound empty weight that KR would like to see all KR2s fly. Adding a tiny bit to the wing (KR2s vs KR2) is no different than building 2 to 4 hundred pounds overweight and using a mega engine to get it all off the ground. I applaud your efforts to make the KR an LSA compliant, fun little dayfighter. I, for one, would think that Ken would also applaud your efforts and even approve of what you are trying to do. It certainly makes more sense to go in the direction that leads to a simple lightweight, fun-to-fly aircraft, rather than the direction that most are taking nowadays, Good Luck in your persuit of Ken's dream of building and flying light, simple aircraft. Denny ... Flame Away, it won't be the first time I've riden in this Rodeo! rhartwi...@juno.com wrote: Thankfully it is still Friday!! Let's see.....I think I finally have it. It is a KR if you: stretch it 14 inches, make it 6 inches wider, make the sides vertical, build it 200+ pounds over plans gross wt., use a different airfoil, install an O235, change the horizontal airfoil, use Dr. Dean Hinges, build it with sliding or forward tilt canopy, use Fowler flaps, make the fuselage a foam/fiberglass sandwich, make folding wings. (are these changes all made by "designers?") It is not a KR if you: build it light and to the plans except for adding slightly more wing area or make it a single place to give it a stall speed of 51mph instead of the Rand Robinson published stall speed of 52mph.....one little mph, have it cruise at about 135mph.....(and there are a lot of KR's flying that do not exceed the LSA cruise speed specs.) Please don't try to stifle those who are discussing how to lower the stall speed. By the way I did not get to vote on the following-- "It has been agreed upon here that an ELSA legal KR 1 or 2 would not remotely be a KR anymore" We are not talking about an ELSA anyway--we are talking about an Amateur Built Experimental KR that is legal for a Sport Pilot to fly. The LSA's category planes are factory built or built from an approved factory kit. If you took a poll of the Netters you would probably find that relatively few have finished and flown a KR or any other homebuilt. We do look up to those of you who have. Rich Hartwig Waunakee, WI rhartwi...@juno.com --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min.
