Thankfully it is still Friday!! Let's see.....I think I finally have it. It is a KR if you: stretch it 14 inches, make it 6 inches wider, make the sides vertical, build it 200+ pounds over plans gross wt., use a different airfoil, install an O235, change the horizontal airfoil, use Dr. Dean Hinges, build it with sliding or forward tilt canopy, use Fowler flaps, make the fuselage a foam/fiberglass sandwich, make folding wings. (are these changes all made by "designers?") It is not a KR if you: build it light and to the plans except for adding slightly more wing area or make it a single place to give it a stall speed of 51mph instead of the Rand Robinson published stall speed of 52mph.....one little mph, have it cruise at about 135mph.....(and there are a lot of KR's flying that do not exceed the LSA cruise speed specs.)
Please don't try to stifle those who are discussing how to lower the stall speed. By the way I did not get to vote on the following-- "It has been agreed upon here that an ELSA legal KR 1 or 2 would not remotely be a KR anymore" We are not talking about an ELSA anyway--we are talking about an Amateur Built Experimental KR that is legal for a Sport Pilot to fly. The LSA's category planes are factory built or built from an approved factory kit. If you took a poll of the Netters you would probably find that relatively few have finished and flown a KR or any other homebuilt. We do look up to those of you who have. Rich Hartwig Waunakee, WI rhartwi...@juno.com >Rich >Checking the archives will let ANYONE know about the literal months of dicsussion that has already gone on about trying >to make the KR whatever fit a category it was not designed for. Everyone that is arguing in favor of building a KR to meet >ELSA standards has never built a KR to completion, or owns a flying KR. Most are not designers, with the exception of a >few that comment. >It is not that Mark L or Mark J is putting a damper on appropriate threads or not, but this list is supposed to be devoted to >just KR building and flying. We all contribute things from time to time that are not strictly KR material, maybe just pilot >material, but aimed at safety or preventing similar mistakes, etc... Friday's are reserved for the off the wall remarks. >What I am bringing up is that I am not trying to squash a thread that has merit, but rather to encourage an interested builder >to do his research, and then consult with those that are doing directly. It has been agreed upon here that an ELSA legal KR >1 or 2 would not remotely be a KR anymore, and so it would really be more appropriate to have their own list and >discussions. The topic got beaten up BAD just last year, with nothing more that alot of supposition about what could be >done, yet no one has done that yet. But what is known is that discussing an ELSA KR which would really deserve its own >new name at that point, would be like discussing the Taylor monoplane here; similar design (the blueprint for Ken for this >plane) but different plane. >Case in point is Dana Overall: Dana is building an RV8 so he doesn't discuss things here that apply to metal airplanes, or >RVs unless it is generic and also applies to us, then he gladly shares it. An ELSA legal KR is no longer a KR but a new >design. Discussing building processes would be the same, and so in my mind would be on target, but certification issues, >and design modification parameters and the like would be more appropriate to another list for the new design. >I am not trying to push anyone out or hurt anyone's feelings, but it seems that once or twice a year we have to rmeind >everyone that this list is NOT a general discussion list for any and all. It is a KR builders and pilots list for sharing >wisdom and experience directly related to building and flying KR's, not other aircraft development, what happened to my >sister, etc... and issues that threaten us like Brian's Case in Jacksonville. >If Mark L or Mark J feel I am off target then I conceed. But I have watched thme have to make such remarks time and >again to knock things back on track for THIS list. >Colin >N96TA >Ormond Beach, FL
