Re: [issues] Women and the Open Source Community (was screenshots)

1999-10-21 Thread Cat
ement contained that sentiment neither explicitly nor in subtext. I have found it plenty hard to explain sexism to men who are in no way male chauvinist pigs, and I believe that is what ae was trying to express. Cat /././././././././././././././././././ The plural of anecdote is not data. \.\.\

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-22 Thread Cat
l a distinctly unfriendly atmosphere if I walk into a place that has girlie pictures all over the walls. I do not think that most places (unless clearly demarcated) that are inviting to both males and females generally have adult pictures plastered up. Cat /././././././././././././././././.

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-22 Thread Cat
and expected. In many of the themes mentioned, the pictures do not have a context in which they are expected. To me, that's where the assumptions about your audience come in. Cat /././././././././././././././././././ The plural of anecdote is not data. \.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Women and the Open Source Community (was screenshots)

1999-10-23 Thread Cat
diminish them. However, pointing it out when there is no one of the opposite sex present makes it clear that the views are your own, and you are willing to stand up for them even when there is no perceived stake in it. Cat /././././././././././././././././././ The plural of anecdote is not data. \.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\.\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-23 Thread Cat
marcated -- as in, in the adult section of a website, or in a some type of club where they are expected, etc. etc. Not just randomly posted throughout sections or places where it is not apparent that they are or should be there. What did you think I meant? Fancy borders? Your comment was sort of

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-23 Thread Cat
Brendan -- Do you honestly think that sexism doesn't exist? Or that it does but it is not a problem worth talking about? You have not stated this sentiment in so many words, but you do seem to be expressing it. Is this intended? Cat On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote: >

Re: [issues] Something I've observed

1999-10-31 Thread Cat
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > Nothing stops the conversation around here faster than some CMOTW [1] > (who obviously doesn't get it) posting a lot of things that create what > is basically noise. And then everything stops. I absolutely agree with your observation. Notice how we

Re: [issues] Something I've observed

1999-10-31 Thread Cat
> > point to make. Then came the adult linux thing, and suddenly I thought, > > 'Oh, *I* see.' I felt that one was a calculated prelude to the other. > > I'm not sure if it was that calculated other than "I need to introduce > myself first." ::shrug:: (to Deirdre) Given your insight on the mat

Re: [issues] Automatic associations

1999-11-01 Thread Cat
On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Terri Oda wrote: > A friend of mine sent this to our mailing list and I thought some of you > would find it interesting: > > http://depts.washington.edu/iat/index.html Very interesting! I had slight preference for young over old, and I only took that one once. For the othe

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-01-02 Thread Cat
On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Di Gregory wrote: > > > > I ended up being a Transformer for Halloween (Voltron, specifically :), > > and ended up being teased even more.. this is probably when I started > > Hey! Voltron wasn't a transformer... Transformers I thought were kind of > dumb because they were

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-01-02 Thread Cat
On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Cat wrote: > On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Di Gregory wrote: > > > > > > > > I ended up being a Transformer for Halloween (Voltron, specifically :), > > > and ended up being teased even more.. this is probably when I started > > > > H

Re: [issues] Places, issues and all the rest...Maybe the Wst CoastIS THE Best Coast.

1999-11-01 Thread Cat
Maybe this should move to grrltalk? It seems kind of far afield from 'issues of women in Linux' to me. _Cat On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Steve Kudlak wrote: > > > This is a touchy issue, because if one woman said: "Don't do that", it might > > actually stop things. Or somethi

Re: [issues] MS/DOJ ruling

1999-11-08 Thread Cat
> want to lable it.. and they wanted more people to use thier product as > apposed to IBM's product... so they ask thier competitor to leave a > product behind... ok... No, they *forced* their competitor to leave a product behind. In fair practice, IBM would have been forced to leave their produ

Re: [issues] MS/DOJ ruling

1999-11-08 Thread Cat
On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, curious wrote: > > No, they *forced* their competitor to leave a product behind. In fair > > practice, IBM would have been forced to leave their product behind because > > of market pressure by consumers, not by pressure from Microsoft. > > If OS/2 was marketable enough of

Re: [issues] MS/DOJ ruling

1999-11-08 Thread Cat
Curious -- I am curious as to why you are being such a strong advocate for Microsoft on a Linux list. It sounds as if you think Microsoft is has pretty great products. So why do you use Linux? _Cat On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, curious wrote: > > > If a corporation breaks a law.. what would you like to

Re: [issues] Demographics (super long story)

2000-01-05 Thread Cat
> > If at least some of the women in IT were able to report that they > had received none of the shit that most people here are all too well > aware of, that would be -really- cool. At the moment, most women > who have posted to the thread have stories of discrimination based > on gender rath

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-08 Thread Cat
> for coke and pizza. I thought the math and science teachers were > jerks, took as much English and art shop classes as I could (we got to > make things), skipped phy ed as often as possible, (oh, yes, and > learned German), and stayed home and read. Very un-masculine, for the Ah, but I (as a

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-08 Thread Cat
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Cat wrote: > > for coke and pizza. I thought the math and science teachers were > > jerks, took as much English and art shop classes as I could (we got to > > make things), skipped phy ed as often as possible, (oh, yes, and > > learned German),

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-08 Thread Cat
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Jenn V. wrote: > > > Cat wrote: > > > > Ah, but I (as a 23-year-old who was in eighth grade in the late 80's) > > remember very well a choice between taking shop or taking home ec. > > You had a choice? Wow. We didn't. H

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Cat
On this topic of -ess endings, interestingly enough Miss Manners had something to say about it in her most recent column. I actually agree with some of her points -- what do you all think? http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/2000-01/12/146l-011200-idx.html I mean, isn't taking the m

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Cat
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > On 13 Jan 2000, Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote: > > > Speaking of websites, I used to be "webmaster" for an ISP. I asked my > > boss permission to set up aliases for either "webadmin" or "webmistress" > > and use them, but was told that I wasn't to do

RE: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Cat
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Sunnanvind wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Cat wrote: > > I mean, isn't taking the male word as the neuter word doing the > > same thing as using mankind vs humankind? I personally dislike the fact > > that 'he' and 'his' are su

[issues] The format of a resume.

2000-04-12 Thread The Cat In The Hat
Ok, I am a straight linux kinda person now. I just started looking for a new job. When I sent out my resume I did it in straight text. One of the recruiters asked me to send it in Word Document format. So, I went to my local University and transfered it to Word format. Well I jus

Re: [issues] The format of a resume.

2000-04-12 Thread The Cat In The Hat
It was vi that I created it in originally. I currently don't have a personal web page. I canceled the dialup account that it was on and have not created one on my cable modem account yet. I suppose that I will have to do that. As a side note - how much contact information do you put on a res

Re: [issues] The format of a resume.

2000-04-12 Thread The Cat In The Hat
Hmm...thanks, I'm going to have to try that .doc thing. hehe. Thanks, CatNTHat -Original Message- From:Kirrily 'Skud' Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:13 Apr 2000 01:35:53 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [issues] The format of a resume. I wrote an article on recruiters

Re: [issues] The format of a resume.

2000-04-13 Thread The Cat In The Hat
Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:23:22 -0600 (MDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [issues] The format of a resume. On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, The Cat In The Hat wrote: My standard policy on resume formats is that if they can't figure out a way to deal with a text resume, t

[issues] Re: Screenshots

1999-10-20 Thread The Cat In The Hat
I thought they were putting all the themes like that in an 'Adult' section, perhaps you should send a note to the admin of the E themes site and let them know that you think they should be in that section. I don't feel that a locker room atmosphere is correct, an open atmosphere would be a mor