Maybe this should move to grrltalk?  It seems kind of far afield from
'issues of women in Linux' to me.

_Cat

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Steve Kudlak wrote:
> 
> > This is a touchy issue, because if one woman said: "Don't do that", it might
> > actually stop things. Or something like" Or it's not worth fight over...."
> > Instead they back out of the way and let the guys duke it out.
> 
> Or /she/ might get hit. Have you thought about /why/ they (we) back out of the
> way? Because we're at least as scared as the guys.
> 
> > Only difference I think is that it IS FAIR FOR ME TO ASK THEM TO ACCEPT MY
> > CLOTHING. I may joke about "suits" but they are no less a human being. I only
> > ask the same. To me it seems they are glorifying stupidity. But the convenient
> > way is to remove myself from it and do to some place better. It is the never
> > teach a pig to sing thing...
> 
> It is the never-teach-a-pig-to-sing thing.
> 
> Have you considered the possibility that they might be /afraid/ of you?
> Afraid of the symbolism of your appearance, perhaps.
> Afraid of your intellect, perhqps?
> Afraid of the freedom-to-wear-what-you-wish?
> 
> These are all possible. You have mentioned that you dress as a biker - well,
> I tend to be afraid of people who dress as bikers, because my experience is 
> that I am more likely to be (physically) hurt by a biker than I am to be hurt 
> by a suit.
> 
> I have been told by a friend that she was intimidated by my reputation as
> an intellectual - she thought I'd be patronising, that we'd have nothing to 
> talk about, that the kind of thing that interests her would bore me silly.
> Now, I don't /agree/ with that, but I have to accept that that viewpoint
> exists.
> 
> And there's a LOT of people who really hate wearing ties and smart clothes.
> Some of them envy people who can get away without it. So some of what you're 
> experiencing may be envy - not just prejudice.
> 
> 
> 
> Jenn V.
> -- 
>   Humans are the only species to feed and house entirely separate species 
>      for no reason other than the pleasure of their company. Why?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Jenn Vesperman        http://www.simegen.com/~jenn/
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