On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 07:41:01AM +0100, steph wrote:
> Um, unless I'm missing something, *most* gay male friends don't end
> up in the sack with people named Claudine for some other reason.
Yes, and that's *exactly* why I feel 'safe' (safe from the danger of
getting romantically involved with
> Don't treat me as if I'm handicapped because I
> have a vagina ... and don't embellish my accomplishments for the
> same reason either ... just treat me as an equal!
>
> - Mary; feeling like an extremist feminist sometimes.
Hi, Mary,
That is exactly it! Why am I, a "Senior Network Engineer"
> Radical? Maybe. I guess the idea that I don't need to be this
> obedient, submissive little creature is radical to some of the more
> patriarchal elements in our society. If so, I'll wear that label
> proudly.
Reminds me of the saying "Feminism is the radical concept that women are
peopl
Caitlyn Martin wrote:
>
> Guys tend to find my feminist views extreme, with the exception of a few
> open minded ones like my current beau. I don't think asking for such
> things as equal treatment at work, equal pay for my work, respect for my
> views, knowledge, and experience, and not being c
> it is sad when an open minded perspective is considered extreme. On a
> somewhat similiar tangent, are very many of you religious? In my
> experience, organized religion is a very patriarchial and constrictive
> environment, which I would imagine, would put off most people here. Is
> there a
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 11:11:36AM -0600, Snarfblat wrote:
> In my
> experience, organized religion is a very patriarchial and constrictive
> environment, which I would imagine, would put off most people here. Is
> there a near mutual exclusion between open minded women (or men) and the
> church
Snarfblat wrote:
>
> On a
> somewhat similiar tangent, are very many of you religious?
Yes.
> In my
> experience, organized religion is a very patriarchial and constrictive
> environment, which I would imagine, would put off most people here.
I'm not a member of an organised religion.
>
> Snarfblat wrote:
> > On a
> > somewhat similiar tangent, are very many of you religious?
Yes
> > In my
> > experience, organized religion is a very patriarchial and constrictive
> > environment, which I would imagine, would put off most people here.
> > Is
> > there a near mutual exclusion
Snarfblat wrote:
>
> On a
> somewhat similiar tangent, are very many of you religious?
I am spiritual but not religious.
Principally, and in my understanding, religion is the organizational
strucure of people and practices/rituals, while spirituality is a way of
being open to/part of the my
dont know if anyone else has read terry pratchets "Small Gods"
but the one of the things said in the book rings true for me
namely that organisation of a 'religion' tends to kill the escense (sp?)
of it. ( it is a comedic fantasy tho )
things said in jest etc.
Sean
--
"Real Program
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Erin wrote:
> Snarfblat wrote:
> > On a
> > somewhat similiar tangent, are very many of you religious?
>
> I am spiritual but not religious.
I am a mix of spiritual and religious, which is probably best explained by
the fact that I'm an agnostic polytheist. Thus, I consid
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:57:25 -0600 (EST), "Jenny Brown (was Gable)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I'm Wiccan; it's somewhat organized, legally recognized, and varies
>from quite traditional to quite liberal.
I don't accept the tag "Wiccan" as defining anything. There are so
many types of "Wiccan
At 10:57 PM 2/22/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> #if Dan McGarry
>We-ell, I've always been ruled by *both* hemispheres of my brain. I write
>left-handed, but throw right-handed. I love geekly topics like hardware and
>software architectures, and am just as passionate about creating art.
I wonder how
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:04:42 -0500, Erin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Harkening back to the previous thread about when women
>get "socialized" out of their interests in computers (and other
>'hard' sciences), I'd have to say High School is when that happened
>to me and it had a lasting impact. I t
Erin wrote:
> I wonder how many of us are like this (bilaterally dominant, that is)... I
> write left-handed, play pool left-handed, but throw better and hold a
> hockey stick right-handed. I can write with both hands in different
> directions, backwards and upside-down. I can also wiggle my ears
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeramia Ory wrote:
>> Radical? Maybe. I guess the idea that I don't need to be this
>> obedient, submissive little creature is radical to some of the more
>> patriarchal elements in our society. If so, I'll wear that label
>> proudly.
>
>Reminds me of the say
#if Erin
> Snarfblat wrote:
> >
> > On a
> > somewhat similiar tangent, are very many of you religious?
>
> I am spiritual but not religious.
I am neither. Sometimes I wish I was religious. Then perhaps I wouldn't
have to think about the Universe so much.
> Principally, and in my understandi
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> I would never be a member of any church which sought recognition with
> the state as a church, except for a church whose sole reason for
> existing is to obtain recognition from the state. IMO, the act of
> seeking recognition imposes hierarchy and
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:53:46 -0500 (EST), Bad Mojo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Recognition isn't all bad. It does allow a church the ability to do
>many things important. Tax free contributions, marriage under law,
>etc.
You can get the tax free thing without being a church.
>When you get orda
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> I was ordained over the Internet, actually. I am aware that by doing
> so I joined a church. The church I joined has no doctrine and exists
if you are referring to the ULC they do have a few select doctrines, that
all basically can be summarized
On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 07:36:38AM +1100, Jenn V. wrote:
>
>
> Snarfblat wrote:
> >
> > On a
> > somewhat similiar tangent, are very many of you religious?
Yes. I am a kibologist (all of you familiar with a.r.k are cringing
right now...). Actually, to be serious, I am religious/spiritual --
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:36:00 -0800 (PST), TeknoDragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>if you are referring to the ULC they do have a few select doctrines,
>that all basically can be summarized as "the priesthood of all
>believers"...
ULC does have a "doctrine" but it's only there because the states
r
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Jenny Brown (was Gable) wrote:
> sometimes gender-balanced, sometimes tending more toward women. It's also
> not constrictive. In general it encouarges learning about other things,
generally speaking this is one reason that I decided that I wasn't wiccan,
rather my/our own b
Hi,
okay so Im REALLY confused as to whats going on
I *thought* i was subscribed to techtalk, issues, grrltalk, and
announcements. Ive been getting emails lately telling me (something like
this, I didnt save it so Im not exactly sure...) that mail from the issues
list isnt able to reach m
On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 12:54:50AM +, Rik Hemsley wrote:
> #if Erin
> > I am spiritual but not religious.
>
> I am neither. Sometimes I wish I was religious. Then perhaps I wouldn't
> have to think about the Universe so much.
I thoroughly enjoy thinking about the Universe...
> > Principall
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 06:30:00PM -0500, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:04:42 -0500, Erin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Harkening back to the previous thread about when women
> >get "socialized" out of their interests in computers (and other
> >'hard' sciences), I'd have to say
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> ULC does have a "doctrine" but it's only there because the states
> require one. Their doctrine is contentless. :)
talk to brother Daniel, I think he'd disagree ;->
> Well, I think the state should get out of the marriage business
> altogether.
Snarfblat asks;
> are very many of you religious? In my experience, organized
> religion is a very patriarchial and constrictive environment,
> which I would imagine, would put off most people here.
> Is there a near mutual exclusion between open minded women
> (or men) and the church?
First of
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:26:22 -0500, Erin Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>H, did the part where I mentioned 7 years of shelter work and
>more of socio-political activism somehow deregister as a valid source
>of "evidence"?
No, in fact it motivated my reply.
>Let's see, I worked in one shel
Hi, everyone,
It may be time to move this thread to grrltalk. I am cross posting this
one... Care to follow me over there?
Snarfblat wrote:
> it is sad when an open minded perspective is considered extreme.
Yep. I think you hit upon why in the next question and comments...
> On a
> somewh
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