Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-07 Thread Edward Gould
I keep it standard to a MOD 3. NO DR issues and its quicker to define the environment. Ed > On Jul 7, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Edward Finnell > <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > My concern is in a mixed CP Environment that you through stuff away. We > kept a defined string

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-07 Thread Edward Finnell
My concern is in a mixed CP Environment that you through stuff away. We kept a defined string of 3380's for VMer's and they we happy. In the SSD can still define 3380 mod2's for CKD. In a message dated 7/7/2016 4:10:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ee...@us.ibm.com writes: I like to (t

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-07 Thread John Eells
There was no big rush (smile). We're not thinking of volume size related changes in ServerPac that I know about. We are thinking about a larger volume size for the Customized Offerings Driver (COD) system, though, as it's getting tough to keep it on 3390-3 size volumes. I like to (try to) a

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-07 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:19:28 -0400, John Eells wrote: >What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? > >For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" >has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we >chose 3390-27? Apologies for

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/5/2016 6:04 AM, John Eells wrote: Ed Jaffe wrote: We use three sizes only: mod-9, mod-27, and mod-216. The only reason we still maintain mod-9s is because that is the format used by the software sent to us by IBM. Can you elaborate? Is that the volume size for the ADCD or something els

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-05 Thread Ron Hawkins
n List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 5:16 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild > > We create as much 3390-54's as possible. > We have some smaller volumes onl

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-05 Thread John Eells
Ed Jaffe wrote: We use three sizes only: mod-9, mod-27, and mod-216. The only reason we still maintain mod-9s is because that is the format used by the software sent to us by IBM. Can you elaborate? Is that the volume size for the ADCD or something else? (For ServerPac, it might be the defa

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 5:16 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild > > We create as much 3390-54's a

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-04 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
, 2016 18:19 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/28/2016 9:19 AM, John Eells wrote: What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chose 3390-27? We use three sizes only: mod-9

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-07-01 Thread David Mingee
: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild The smallest I've seen is a MOD3.  And that is just because it had a CAT on it Steve  -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Al Loeffler

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-30 Thread Bobbie Justice
We still have some mod 9s around, most of ours are mod 27 or 54. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

AW: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-29 Thread Peter Hunkeler
When I was with IBM Education, we used to run class labs on minimal z/OS (OS/390, MVS/...) systems as VM guests. The volumes were VM mini volumes just as large as needed. If VM is still the base for those labs, I'm pretty sure there still are volumes of various small sizes. Not sure however if

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-06-28 o 18:19, John Eells pisze: What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chose 3390-27? Application data volumes

AW: Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Peter Hunkeler
wever if this matters for your query. --Peter Hunkeler -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild What i

Re: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
, June 28, 2016 6:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [Bulk] Re: [IBM-MAIN] Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild The smallest I've seen is a MOD3. And that is just because it had a CAT on it Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Steve Beaver
ehalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Al Loeffler
: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
always been fine for application files and Adabas. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Clark Morris > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Size

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:19:28 -0400, John Eells wrote: >What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? > >For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" >has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we >chose 3390-27? > I know if yo

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Clark Morris
to what is available in other environments. Clark Morris > >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On Behalf Of John Eells >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:19 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Lester, Bob
DU Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild [ EXTERNAL ] Yep. 100 for JES2 checkpoints. 500+ for catalog volumes. Some mod 3s for ML1 and Mobius datasets due to large number of small datasets. Mod 9s for most volumes. Storage groups are 1TB+ so new space is Mod 27s (due to IPL volumes).

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Mike Schwab
ere are always outliers! :-) > > Bob > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John Eells > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wi

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Porowski, Ken
ent from or received at this email address. -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of John Eells > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:19 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wi

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild > > What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? > > For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" > has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What

Re: EXTERNAL: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
John Eells Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at lea

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread David Purdy
General use is -9 and -27. -3 are in use but vanishing. No -54 yet. David On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 John Eells wrote: What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform)
Sadly we still have some 3380's defined. Don't gasp... Original Message From: Chuck Kreiter Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild -- This email has reached the Bank via a

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Chuck Kreiter
0:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chos

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
SERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John Eells > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild > > What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? > > For example, will we create any problems if we ass

Re: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread Richards, Robert B.
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chos

Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

2016-06-28 Thread John Eells
What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use? For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days? What if we chose 3390-27? -- John Eells IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com --