John,

I'm not sure what you mean by "general use."

For HDS Business Continuity Manager software some customers will allocate a 
small volume for the command devices (let's say 10 cyls), often using the odd 
cyls left over on a Parity Group after formatting a bunch of common sized 
volumes (-3, -9, -27, etc). They are also handy for JES2 Checkpoints, RACF 
Primary/Secondary, etc. EMC pushed the idea decades ago with the hypervolume 
concept.

The various vendor thin provisioning capabilities may be reducing the frequency 
of this approach, as you can use the whole Parity Group for the pool, allocate 
a 3390-A in the pool, and then just use a few Cyls for your JES2 Checkpoint. 
Iceberg/RVA users will be familiar with this.

Ron

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The smallest I've seen is a MOD3.  And that is just because it had a CAT on it

Steve  

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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:32 PM
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I use 3390-27 for z/OS and other software installation, but I also use other 
sizes (3390-1, 3390-3, 3390-9, 3390-54) for operational and user datasets.

Al Loeffler

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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:19 AM
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Subject: Minimum Volume Sizes in the Wild

What is the *smallest* volume size everyone sees in general use?

For example, will we create any problems if we assume that "everyone" 
has or can define at least a 3390-9 size volume these days?  What if we chose 
3390-27?

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John Eells
IBM Poughkeepsie
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