[Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-17 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote: > >> "toggle" does not require start/stop constructs. > > So, how can I start and end selection? > >> Tell me if it is not sufficient. > > No, it's not sufficient: > 1) > ::toggleLineSelectionMode() (starts selection - ok) > Down > Down > ::clearS

Re: [Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-17 Thread Mindaugas Kavaliauskas
On 2010.05.17 17:43, Pritpal Bedi wrote: Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote: I do not find: ::startSelection() ::stopSelection() ::toggleColumnSelectionMode() There are three methods: ::toggleColumnSelectionMode() ::toggleLineSelectionMode() ::clearSelection() "toggle"

[Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-17 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote: > > I do not find: >::startSelection() >::stopSelection() >::toggleColumnSelectionMode() > There are three methods: ::toggleColumnSelectionMode() ::toggleLineSelectionMode() ::clearSelection() "toggle" does not require start/stop constructs.

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2010-05-17 Thread Mindaugas Kavaliauskas
Hi, On 2010.05.17 17:05, Pritpal Bedi wrote: Please examine. Alternatively you can look into ideshortcuts.prg. Let me know it more constructs are needed. I do not find: ::startSelection() ::stopSelection() ::toggleColumnSelectionMode() Regards, Mindaugas __

[Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-17 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote: > >> iif( ::isMarking, ::stopMarking(), ::setColumnSelectionMode() .and. >> ::startMarking() ) >> This is not an elegant solution but it can work. > > OK, I can write inline IF. I do not care about elegance, but I will not > use editor until it does not have the f

Re: [Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-17 Thread Mindaugas Kavaliauskas
Hi, I still can. Screencast at www.dbtopas.lt/hrb/f11.avi f11.avi clearly indicates that your claim is valid. But for "mysterious" reasons I cannot reproduce it on my machine. Can you so test after hbQT rebuild ? It seems hbqt clean rebuild helped. Thank You. I want implement the follo

Re: [Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-16 Thread Antonio Maniero
2010/5/16 Massimo Belgrano > and now you can use qscintilla to pritpal's wrapper > > I think it is not needed, but could be useful if present on HbIDE. Looking at surface I like the idea of using QScintilla, but it is not my call. Certainly using QScintilla it would things behave more standard by

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2010-05-16 Thread Massimo Belgrano
and now you can use qscintilla to pritpal's wrapper 2010/5/16 Antonio Maniero : >> >> There is QScintilla though, which could be interesting: >>   http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/qscintilla/intro > > > Very interesting. I knew just the original Scintilla. > []'s Maniero >

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2010-05-16 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > > There is QScintilla though, which could be interesting: > http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/qscintilla/intro > Very interesting. I knew just the original Scintilla. []'s Maniero ___ Harbour mailing list (attachment size limit: 40KB) H

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2010-05-16 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > > >> - The menu hbide is very similar to Visual studio the look and feel no > > The major problem is not look & feel, is too. > Wich are your pratical suggestion for hbide? > wich Philosophics like Consistency about menus, context menus, toolbar > and keyboard mapping ? > what hbide need to b

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2010-05-16 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > >> could be better to allow to launch an external editor form hbIde? Just a > provocation, as Harbour programmer's could obtain same productivity without > to spend learning time. > I think that the choice of emulating xMate was a very useful path to > obtain a quick and effective skeleton and

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2010-05-16 Thread Massimo Belgrano
hi Maniero >> -   The menu hbide is very similar to Visual studio the look and feel no > The major problem is not look & feel, is too. Wich are your pratical suggestion for hbide? wich Philosophics like Consistency about menus, context menus, toolbar and keyboard mapping ? what hbide need to be w

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2010-05-16 Thread Antonio Maniero
2010/5/16 Massimo Belgrano > I apreciate xmate because i have used and found high consistence > But can suggest Pritpal Use a model different from xmate because > xmate is a project born in 2003 as possible read in Pritpal's page at > http://www.vouchcac.com/Community/WowXMate.htm > IMO can be

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2010-05-16 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> To me the most alien is that users are forced to > use toolbars for various everyday tasks, and toolbar > is their only option (*). Plus many times I hear that as > a final argument: > "it's done that way in xMate so it will be like that in HBIDE" > For a non-xMate user like me, this conveys a s

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2010-05-16 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > > To me the most alien is that users are forced to > use toolbars for various everyday tasks, and toolbar > is their only option (*). Plus many times I hear that as > a final argument: > "it's done that way in xMate so it will be like that in HBIDE" > For a non-xMate user like me, this conveys

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2010-05-16 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > > - A look and feel based on icon on tool bar (that will be easy > trasformed if Pritbal give us >add/remove tolbar or better Customize toolbar icon > If... > - The menu hbide is very similar to Visual studio the look and feel no > The major problem is not look & feel, is too. > -

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2010-05-16 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> Alt-b now I remember... > >>> Actually PE2 still exists: >>> http://www.pe32.com > > Nice to know !!! > > About the integrated editor... notepad++ is a windows only editor > based on Scintilla Scintilla works both in Windows and Linux and > so it cuold be used as a base editor... but

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2010-05-16 Thread francesco perillo
Alt-b now I remember... >> Actually PE2 still exists: >>http://www.pe32.com Nice to know !!! About the integrated editor... notepad++ is a windows only editor based on Scintilla Scintilla works both in Windows and Linux and so it cuold be used as a base editor... but hbide was a proj

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2010-05-16 Thread Maurizio la Cecilia (GMail)
Il 16/05/2010 10.06, Viktor Szakáts ha scritto: I use vi (actually, vim) on both windows and linux... I used to use E2 (was it pe2??) I was given in 1987 by some programmers I met... it could do block copy/paste, I don't remember how but it could do... you could also select a box on the screen an

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2010-05-16 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> I apreciate xmate because i have used and found high consistence > But can suggest Pritpal Use a model different from xmate because > xmate is a project born in 2003 as possible read in Pritpal's page at > http://www.vouchcac.com/Community/WowXMate.htm I also appreciate it because it's nicely

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2010-05-16 Thread Massimo Belgrano
I apreciate xmate because i have used and found high consistence But can suggest Pritpal Use a model different from xmate because xmate is a project born in 2003 as possible read in Pritpal's page at http://www.vouchcac.com/Community/WowXMate.htm IMO can be right use a more recent/modern model My

Re: [Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-16 Thread Viktor Szakáts
Hi Massimo, > Hi Viktor > Can you help me describe wich are feature implemented in not stardard way Others have described it already much better than I could. I can agree with Antonio's and Mindaugas's almost every word. To me the most alien is that users are forced to use toolbars for various

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2010-05-16 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> I use vi (actually, vim) on both windows and linux... I used to use E2 > (was it pe2??) I was given in 1987 by some programmers I met... it > could do block copy/paste, I don't remember how but it could do... you > could also select a box on the screen and then add borders... PE2 :) It was my fi

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2010-05-16 Thread Massimo Belgrano
Hi Viktor Can you help me describe wich are feature implemented in not stardard way Hi try - The idea of project perstitence different from open,close,recent file metafora . this idea is not born from xmate but from multiproject file that will be allowed opening two project from comman

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2010-05-16 Thread francesco perillo
I use vi (actually, vim) on both windows and linux... I used to use E2 (was it pe2??) I was given in 1987 by some programmers I met... it could do block copy/paste, I don't remember how but it could do... you could also select a box on the screen and then add borders...

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2010-05-16 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> I am really sorry > to hear about so ridiculous comments about xMate. I would suggest you > just to give it a try before repeatedly shouting against it. > > xMate was my first try when I come back to xBase programming. I will never > use it or nothing with same behavior. > Maybe my comments are

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2010-05-16 Thread Viktor Szakáts
>> BTW, Far Manager's editor is extremely simple, >> yet quite powerful. Two selection modes: stream/line >> (shift+arrows), block (alt+arrows), copy, cut, >> paste and delete selection. There is also a setup >> option to make selection persistent (I use it >> that way). That's it. >> >> [ Ha

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2010-05-15 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > I am really sorry > to hear about so ridiculous comments about xMate. I would suggest you > just to give it a try before repeatedly shouting against it. > xMate was my first try when I come back to xBase programming. I will never use it or nothing with same behavior. Maybe my comments are ridi

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2010-05-15 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Viktor Szakáts wrote: > > I agree to go standard, rather than replicating > such a very niche editor like xMate. Harbour's > goal isn't to create an xMate copycat. Probably > there is a good middle ground between making > xMate users happy and not cut off everyone else. > Keyboard Mappings

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2010-05-15 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Antonio Maniero wrote: > >> >> >> Great, but I would like to have a possibility to implement MultiEdit way >> using key binding macro. I guess hbide should be flexible enough to do >> this. >> >> Exactly. > > xMate is a sub and non standard IDE. IMO it's ok and I can understand the > reason to

[Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-15 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote: > >> I cannot reproduce. Can you try again after r14500 ? > > I still can. Screencast at www.dbtopas.lt/hrb/f11.avi > f11.avi clearly indicates that your claim is valid. But for "mysterious" reasons I cannot reproduce it on my machine. Can you so test after hbQ

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2010-05-15 Thread Viktor Szakáts
> Great, but I would like to have a possibility to implement MultiEdit way > using key binding macro. I guess hbide should be flexible enough to do this. > > Exactly. > > xMate is a sub and non standard IDE. IMO it's ok and I can understand the > reason to reproduce his behavior, but if HbIDE w

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2010-05-15 Thread Antonio Maniero
> > > Great, but I would like to have a possibility to implement MultiEdit way > using key binding macro. I guess hbide should be flexible enough to do this. > > Exactly. xMate is a sub and non standard IDE. IMO it's ok and I can understand the reason to reproduce his behavior, but if HbIDE wishes

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2010-05-15 Thread Mindaugas Kavaliauskas
Hi, On 2010.05.16 02:13, Pritpal Bedi wrote: 4) Persistent selection does not work if a use a mouse to position cursor. Test: F11 Down Down F11 Position cursor before the block using mouse Position cursor after the block using mouse (block is not select

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2010-05-15 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Pritpal Bedi wrote: > > However a function is provided > already in public API ::toggleCurrentLineHilight(). > Sorry, ::toggleSelectionMode() => any - stream ::toggleLineSelectionMode() => any - line - enjoy hbIDEing... Pritpal Bedi http://hbide.vouch.info/ -- View

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2010-05-15 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote: > > Now line block remembers its mode, but Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V overwrites lines > on paste. Normally Paste operation inserts new text, but do not > overwrites text. > Fixed. r14500. >>> 4) Persistent selection does not work if a use a mouse to position >>> cursor.

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2010-05-15 Thread Mindaugas Kavaliauskas
Hi, Can you please check after r14491. 3) Block forget about makting mode on paste Test (continuation of previous test): Ctrl+C (one line copied to clipboard) move cursor to the middle of any line Ctrl+V (line is pasted in a stream mode instead of line mode - bad) Now line blo

[Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-15 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote: > > 6) Could not find a button to start column block marking > It is "Toggle Selection Mode" icon on the main toolbar. It toggle between "Stream" and "Column/Line". "Line" mode can only be set with F11 and this icon changes appearance. Line mode is switched off

[Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-15 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Itamar Lins-2 wrote: > > Buttons and of window environment not working. > If select option menu environment, if window already open, not show > window. Sujestion, open window "environment" with modal option. > This dialog is still in infant stage, is scheduled to be implemented next weeken

[Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-15 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Mindaugas Kavaliauskas wrote: > > 1) Line selection mode excludes last line after selection is finished. > Test: >F11 >Down > (two lines are marked - it's OK) >F11 > (Last line is not marked any more - bad) > > 2) line marking display artifact >In previous test after m

[Harbour] Re: SF.net SVN: harbour-project:[14476] trunk/harbour

2010-05-15 Thread Itamar Lins
Hi! Buttons and of window environment not working. If select option menu environment, if window already open, not show window. Sujestion, open window "environment" with modal option. Best regards, Itamar M. Lins Jr. ___ Harbour mailing list (atta