> I am really sorry > to hear about so ridiculous comments about xMate. I would suggest you > just to give it a try before repeatedly shouting against it. > > xMate was my first try when I come back to xBase programming. I will never > use it or nothing with same behavior. > Maybe my comments are ridiculous, maybe yours. I still thinking (not > guessing) xMate is a non standard IDE with non complete code editor. I used a > lot of code editors and IDEs. You refused try them at least to get inspired > and see by your own eyes what is a standard behavior
I could hardly open a file when I first tried xMate. It's nice and all, but too "unique", and being unique is not a virtue in a programmer's editor tool. It's like having a nicely done car, but with the driving position in the back seat and the gear stick on the roof. Maybe all cars should be like this, but - fact - they aren't. > Again, you are free to do how you want, but Harbour community will have no > professional IDE to work. > > Mindaugas, Viktor and I are not alone about this. > > Certainly nobody can impose anything to you except the individual relegation > of final product. > > I reinforce: I want use HbIDE, it's very important to me, but I will only if > it fits my needs and workflow. Am I alone? It's a very important issue if we ever want to consider HBIDE being distributed as part of Harbour. Here we should think about NEW users also, NOT just the common subset of old Harbour AND xMate users. Having a unfamiliar IDE tool can be a huge turn down for new users, if that's their first encounter with the whole Harbour language/infrastructure. Otherwise HBIDE will stay a technology showcase for QT/HBQT and a familiar tool for a few hundred former xMate users. Anyway the door is open to create Harbour integration tools for existing IDEs (Eclips, VS, XCode, etc). Which is probably still easier than writing a whole new IDE, if it could be done for Python, it can be done for Harbour as well: General: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors XCode: http://zovirl.com/2006/07/13/xcode-python/ NO Visual Studio (I'm not surprised though): http://knowbody.livejournal.com/15675.html Viktor _______________________________________________ Harbour mailing list (attachment size limit: 40KB) Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-project.org/mailman/listinfo/harbour