> I am really sorry
> to hear about so ridiculous comments about xMate. I would suggest you
> just to give it a try before repeatedly shouting against it.
> 
> xMate was my first try when I come back to xBase programming. I will never 
> use it or nothing with same behavior.
> Maybe my comments are ridiculous, maybe yours. I still thinking (not 
> guessing) xMate is a non standard IDE with non complete code editor. I used a 
> lot of code editors and IDEs. You refused try them at least to get inspired 
> and see by your own eyes what is a standard behavior
I could hardly open a file when I first tried 
xMate. It's nice and all, but too "unique", 
and being unique is not a virtue in a programmer's 
editor tool.

It's like having a nicely done car, but with the 
driving position in the back seat and the gear 
stick on the roof. Maybe all cars should be 
like this, but - fact - they aren't.

> Again, you are free to do how you want, but Harbour community will have no 
> professional IDE to work.
> 
> Mindaugas, Viktor and I are not alone about this.
> 
> Certainly nobody can impose anything to you except the individual relegation 
> of final product.
> 
> I reinforce: I want use HbIDE, it's very important to me, but I will only if 
> it fits my needs and workflow. Am I alone?

It's a very important issue if we ever want 
to consider HBIDE being distributed as part 
of Harbour. Here we should think about NEW 
users also, NOT just the common subset of old 
Harbour AND xMate users. Having a unfamiliar 
IDE tool can be a huge turn down for new users, 
if that's their first encounter with the whole 
Harbour language/infrastructure.

Otherwise HBIDE will stay a technology showcase 
for QT/HBQT and a familiar tool for a few hundred 
former xMate users.

Anyway the door is open to create Harbour 
integration tools for existing IDEs (Eclips, 
VS, XCode, etc). Which is probably still easier 
than writing a whole new IDE, if it could be done 
for Python, it can be done for Harbour as well:

General:
   http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors
XCode:
   http://zovirl.com/2006/07/13/xcode-python/
NO Visual Studio (I'm not surprised though):
   http://knowbody.livejournal.com/15675.html

Viktor

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