Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-28 Thread Philip Webb
28 Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 17:04:24 schrieb Colleen Beamer: >> I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize images and convert >> from one format to another (jpg to png, for example), >> but I'm darned if I can find an executable to run the program. >> There used

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:26:48 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Just in case anyone wonders where the multiplier "1.6" comes from: > > There had been a discussion somewhere (I forgot where exactly, sorry) > about load numbers. The final conclusion was that the ideal load number > for today's processors

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:34:14 -0500, Michael Mol wrote: > >> The problem I found with that is the ebuilds load the system lightly > >> to start with, before they enter the compile phase, to portage > >> starts dozens of parallel ebuilds, then the system gets completely > >> bogged down when they st

[gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Philip Webb
Since updating to Openrc 0.9.4 , I'm getting some opaque messages : (1) When starting eth0 : "You are using a bash array for config_eth0. This feature will be removed in the future. Please see net.example for the correct format for config_eth0". (2) When starting D-BUS system messages: "Use of t

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:26:48 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> Just in case anyone wonders where the multiplier "1.6" comes from: >> >> There had been a discussion somewhere (I forgot where exactly, sorry) >> about load numbers. The final conclus

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 17:17, Philip Webb wrote: > Since updating to Openrc 0.9.4 , I'm getting some opaque messages : > > (1) When starting eth0 : "You are using a bash array for config_eth0. > This feature will be removed in the future.  Please see net.example > for the correct format for confi

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 17:29, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> (2) When starting D-BUS system messages: "Use of the opts variable >> is deprecated & will be removed in the future.  Please see extra_commands >> or extra_started_commands". >> >> I've looked in the obvious places in /etc , but see nothing r

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:29:26 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Open /etc/conf.d/net > > Compare it with /etc/conf.d/net.example That file should be removed, the elog message states this. The example file /usr/share/doc/openrc-0.9.4/net.example. -- Neil Bothwick I thought I saw the light at the en

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 5:53 PM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:29:26 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > Open /etc/conf.d/net > > > > Compare it with /etc/conf.d/net.example > > That file should be removed, the elog message states this. The example > file /usr/share/doc/openrc-0.9.4/net.e

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-28 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 17:04 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: [..] > > yes :) It's /usr/bin/convert > > This isn't quite what I wanted - you have to add options to the > command. I was hoping to get the graphical interface that I had > before. Please don't tell me they took a great little program and

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does raise same questions on > the amount of testing done before release. Yes, it's ~arch and > rc_parallel is explicitly marked "experimental", but it's not expected > to be completely and consistentl

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi there 2011/11/28 Pandu Poluan : ... > > TL;DR : 2*N for non-hyperthreaded cores, N for hyperthreaded cores. > > (Disclaimer: Above is my pure speculation. Feel free to debunk it > based on your tests (: ) > > Rgds, So with a 6 core Phenom it would look like this: MAKEOPTS="-j 12 -l 10" EMERGE

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
2011/11/28 Jorge Martínez López : > Hi there > > 2011/11/28 Pandu Poluan : > ... >> >> TL;DR : 2*N for non-hyperthreaded cores, N for hyperthreaded cores. >> >> (Disclaimer: Above is my pure speculation. Feel free to debunk it >> based on your tests (: ) >> >> Rgds, > > So with a 6 core Phenom it w

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:34:14 -0500, Michael Mol wrote: > >> >> The problem I found with that is the ebuilds load the system lightly >> >> to start with, before they enter the compile phase, to portage >> >> starts dozens of parallel ebuilds, th

Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re: > emerge failure will be marked WONTFIX thanks to the 'ricer special' CFLAGS The CFLAGS you showed me weren't any more ricer than "-O2 -march=native". (I didn't know th

[gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does raise same questions on the amount of testing done before release. Yes, it's ~arch and rc_parallel is explicitly marked "experimental", but it's n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:15 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Generally true, but not when something is obviously broken. That > means > not even its upstream dev bothered to test it. > > ~arch is for "we think this works, but please give it a go in case > there > are problems". It's *not* for

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 28.11.2011 10:27, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > From the description, it should do just that, there may still be > dozens of ebuilds in progress, but only the first few will actually > start compiling. Adding it now. It should also helps when there are > multiple emerge processes running, my desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:31:44 -0500 "Albert W. Hopkins" wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:15 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Generally true, but not when something is obviously broken. That > > means > > not even its upstream dev bothered to test it. > > > > ~arch is for "we think this work

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re: > > emerge failure will be marked WONTFIX thanks to the 'ricer special' CFLAGS > > The CFLAGS you showed me weren'

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> > Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re: >> > emerge failure will be marked WONTFIX thanks to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 28.11.2011 17:15, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: >> On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: >>> With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does raise same questions on >>> the amount of testing done before release. Yes, it's ~arch and >

[gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-11-28, Alan McKinnon wrote: > "Albert W. Hopkins" wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:15 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >>> Generally true, but not when something is obviously broken. That >>> means not even its upstream dev bothered to test it. >>> >>> ~arch is for "we think this wor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > My experience is different to both of yours. I too have been using > Gentoo for many years and had good results with unstable. Hardly ever, > if even at all, have I run into packages that would not compile at > Build failures for me have alw

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread James Wall
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> >>> > Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug r

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 17:19 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > I don't think that's fair. Perhaps nobody had compiled it using the > exact set of USE flags and the exast set of library versions and > configurations you were using, but I've never seen anything appear in > testing that was so broken it c

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term > 'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is > really pretty racist, so I wonder if there isn't a more genteel origin > I simply cannot find using Go

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 28.11.2011 17:54, schrieb Mark Knecht: > I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term > 'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is > really pretty racist, so I wonder if there isn't a more genteel origin > I simply cannot find using Google? Mayb

Re: [gentoo-user] 200MB waste from /usr/share/locale ?

2011-11-28 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 11/28/2011 02:41 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > Since I didn't write it at work it's all yours. :) Thanks. Posted here: https://blog.hartwork.org/?p=1516 Best, Sebastian

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> > Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re: >> > emerge failure will be marked WONTFIX thanks to the 'r

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread kashani
On 11/28/2011 9:28 AM, James Wall wrote: I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term 'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is really pretty racist, so I wonder if there isn't a more genteel origin I simply cannot find using Google? - Mark Ric

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term >> 'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is >> really pretty racist, so I wonder if there

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

2011-11-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 26.11.2011 23:11, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 2011-11-26 22:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of >> gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of >> the new stuff and use the mentioned gnome-fal

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:00 AM, kashani wrote: > On 11/28/2011 9:28 AM, James Wall wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if someone in this thread will help me understand the term >>> 'ricer'. The only origin I know of this term, from the car world, is >>> really pretty racist, so I wonder if there isn't a mo

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:54:13 -0800 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Pandu Poluan > wrote: > > > > On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feelin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:22:48 -0500 "Albert W. Hopkins" wrote: > But my feeling is, if you use the testing branch and you *don't* find > bugs, then you aren't testing hard enough :P Or maybe I just got used to dealing with occasional oopsies and stopped noticing them... I do that a lot at work t

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Nov 28, 2011 11:32 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: [snip] > Unfortunately, striving for 2*N will inadvertently result in short bursts of >> 2*N, and this potentially induce a stall, which will be very costly. 1.8*N > gives a 10% margin for bur

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: [snip] > FWIW, I strongly suspect that N should be your number of *logical* > cores, not your number of physical cores. I believe most of the > overhead ...and finishing my sentence. I

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Won't file a bug report, though. I have a feeling that my bug report re: emerge f

[gentoo-user] Re: Disappearing useflag hell [SOLVED]

2011-11-28 Thread walt
On 11/27/2011 02:34 PM, walt wrote: Somewhere deep in the bowels of portage my 'introspection' useflag is vanishing -- but on just one of my three machines. I set the introspection useflag on all three machines (two ~amd64 and one ~x86) but when I run emerge --info, only two of the machines show

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> No, you've got some ugly flags in there. -fexcess-precision and >> -funsafe-math-optimizations, in particular. (I must have been talking

[gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/28/2011 06:59 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 28.11.2011 17:15, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: With 100% repeatability, mind you, which does raise same questions on the amount of testing don

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 29, 2011 2:02 AM, "Florian Philipp" wrote: > > Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > >>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Won't file a bug report

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 28.11.2011 20:14, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Florian Philipp > wrote: >> Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol: >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> No, you've got some ugly flags in there. -fexcess-precision and >>> -funsafe-math-optim

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 11/28/2011 06:59 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: >> >> Am 28.11.2011 17:15, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: >>> >>> On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > > Wit

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Nov 29, 2011 2:02 AM, "Florian Philipp" wrote: >> Am 28.11.2011 18:56, schrieb Michael Mol: >> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Pandu Poluan >> > wrote: >> >> On Nov 28, 2011 10:38 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 28.11.2011 20:14, schrieb Michael Mol: >> Upstream devs might take issue with them, but I'm still not sure they >> should affect bug reports of build-time failures. I would *hope* >> upstream gcc is doing tests on its own build tools com

[gentoo-user] Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > Japanese youngsters doing bizarre mods to cars that produce absolutely > no net gain are indeed the source of the term "ricer". > Yes, it is rude and disparaging but it's also the real root of the > term. There's no need to politically correct it, the origin is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 28.11.2011 20:16, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 11/28/2011 06:59 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: >> Am 28.11.2011 17:15, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: >>> On 11/28/2011 02:29 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 20:28 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > With 100% repeatability, mind yo

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Mick
On Monday 28 Nov 2011 11:50:30 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Nov 28, 2011 5:53 PM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:29:26 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > Open /etc/conf.d/net > > > > > > Compare it with /etc/conf.d/net.example > > > > That file should be removed, the elog message st

[gentoo-user] Re: scanner with ADF for Linux

2011-11-28 Thread James
Joseph gmail.com> writes: > Any suggestion for scanner with good Linux support and ADF I have an old HP that works just fine. http://www.sane-project.org hth, James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 20:57 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: > Sorry if that sounded harsh but really, what you want is what Redhat > (maybe) does for its releases and those only occur every few years and > cost lots of money. Yeah, and even *they* send test pre-releases to some of their clients and

[gentoo-user] Converter parallel-port to USB

2011-11-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Dear gentoo-users, pls tell me if this is true: http://www.cups.org/str.php?L3742 Does anyone use this USB-adapter-cable: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port successfully with gentoo? If no, are there any "yes, works" recommendations for an adapter-cable or -card to at

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

2011-11-28 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11:27PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Right now I use some package.mask-list from a posting in the > gentoo-forums I'd be happy if the maintainers would provide us with > a way to easily chose to stay w/ long list of packages to mask). > > Stefan > Though

Re: [gentoo-user] Apache Php cgi and user_dirs

2011-11-28 Thread Mick
On Sunday 27 Nov 2011 20:36:06 Samuraiii wrote: > Hello, > > Today Im form morning trying to get working apache 2.2.21-r1 and php > 5.3.8 with userdirs mod. > The problem is that apache is capable of opening ~/public_html but when > it gets to open folder with index.php > it fails with this error:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > I'm currently timing > > MAKEOPTS="-j16 -l13" > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs --load-average=13" > > with 493 packages (base plus X plus XFCE and chromium, and, of course, > USE flags), but I'll start another timed run with > > MAKEOPTS="-j16 -l8

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

2011-11-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Nov 28 2011, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Though I don’t use either Gnome version, I believe that we are quite safe with > Gentoo for a while longer, as compared with most other distros out there. At > least that is what I remember from my KDE experience; (almost) all distros > jumped on th

Re: Devs and rice flags (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l )

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 29, 2011 2:53 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > I use Intel boxes, unfortunately. > > Are you using a 64-bit x86-derived system? Same difference in this > context. AMD hit the market with a good 64-bit x86-based ISA first, > and devs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:22:48 -0500 "Albert W. Hopkins" wrote: But my feeling is, if you use the testing branch and you *don't* find bugs, then you aren't testing hard enough :P Or maybe I just got used to dealing with occasional oopsies and stopped noticing them... I do

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Monday 28 Nov 2011 11:50:30 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 5:53 PM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:29:26 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Open /etc/conf.d/net Compare it with /etc/conf.d/net.example That file should be removed, the elog message states this. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disappearing useflag hell [SOLVED]

2011-11-28 Thread Dale
walt wrote: Thanks, Dale for all of your research. It prodded my fuzzy old brain into looking in different directions. I'm glad you got yours sorted out but I'm still curious as to how it is on in one place and off somewhere else. I know a dev has it set that way and I'm SURE he/she has

Re: [gentoo-user] 200MB waste from /usr/share/locale ?

2011-11-28 Thread Dale
Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 11/28/2011 02:41 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: Since I didn't write it at work it's all yours. :) Thanks. Posted here: https://blog.hartwork.org/?p=1516 Best, Sebastian *cough cough* Maybe a good burp too. I get this: This Connection is Untrusted

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread James Wall
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:22:48 -0500 >> "Albert W. Hopkins"  wrote: >> >>> But my feeling is, if you use the testing branch and you *don't* find >>> bugs, then you aren't testing hard enough :P >> >> Or maybe I just got used t

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:35:02 -0600, Dale wrote: > > I update regularly and just got the same message. I wonder why > > didn't the dev create a symlink from the /etc/conf.d/net.example > > -> /usr/share/doc/openrc- /net.example to save a > > need for the enotice? Because that would mean removi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-28 Thread Dale
James Wall wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:22:48 -0500 "Albert W. Hopkins"wrote: But my feeling is, if you use the testing branch and you *don't* find bugs, then you aren't testing hard enough :P Or maybe I just got used to

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 AM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:35:02 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > > I update regularly and just got the same message. I wonder why > > > didn't the dev create a symlink from the /etc/conf.d/net.example > > > -> /usr/share/doc/openrc- /net.example to save a

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Dale
Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 AM, "Neil Bothwick" > wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:35:02 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > > I update regularly and just got the same message. I wonder why > > > didn't the dev create a symlink from the /etc/conf.d/net.example >

[gentoo-user] Re: Converter parallel-port to USB

2011-11-28 Thread James
Stefan G. Weichinger xunil.at> writes: > http://www.cups.org/str.php?L3742 > Does anyone use this USB-adapter-cable: > ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port Unknown. Look in the driver section of building a kernel for the supported devices. I have use FTDI usb-serial conve

[gentoo-user] dmraid, mdraid, lvm, btrfs, what?

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
I've got four 750GB drives in addition to the installed system drive. I'd like to aggregate them and split them into a few volumes. My first inclination would be to raid them and drop lvm on top. I know lvm well enough, but I don't remember md that well. Since I don't recall md well, and this is

[gentoo-user] Tcl in your system...

2011-11-28 Thread Pandu Poluan
Just wondering if anyone here ever use Tcl for scripting (i.e., automating repetitive procedures) or even *gasp* serious programming. Rgds,

Re: [gentoo-user] Tcl in your system...

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Just wondering if anyone here ever use Tcl for scripting (i.e., automating > repetitive procedures) or even *gasp* serious programming. Not me, but Tcl is one of the best-represented langauges on the site I run. http://rosettacode.org/wiki/

Re: [gentoo-user] scanner with ADF for Linux

2011-11-28 Thread Stroller
On 27 November 2011, at 03:30, Joseph wrote: > Any suggestion for scanner with good Linux support and ADF I guess you mean Auto Document Feeder? It might be worth clarifying this, as I didn't notice / understand this when I originally saw your post yesterday. Stroller.

[gentoo-user] Gentoo + HP + Quickmedia

2011-11-28 Thread Carlos Sura
Hello Mates, I have a new HP laptop i5, this came with Windows 7 pre-installed with HP quickweb (a tool that let me skype, check my email and navigate Interne, whitout loading WINDOWS). I'm wondering if there any way to leave quickweb with gentoo, or windows + quickweb + gentoo would be fine...

Re: [gentoo-user] dmraid, mdraid, lvm, btrfs, what?

2011-11-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 29.11.2011 05:10, schrieb Michael Mol: > I've got four 750GB drives in addition to the installed system drive. > > I'd like to aggregate them and split them into a few volumes. My first > inclination would be to raid them and drop lvm on top. I know lvm well > enough, but I don't remember md t

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc 0.9.4 : opaque warnings

2011-11-28 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 AM, "Neil Bothwick" > wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:35:02 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > > I update regularly and just got the same message. I wonder why > > > didn't the dev create a symlink from the /etc/conf.d/n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Converter parallel-port to USB

2011-11-28 Thread John Campbell
On 11/28/2011 07:16 PM, James wrote: An old parallel port on an old pci card should do the trick, if all you needs is a parallel port. Some of those old Laserjet printer could be set up across a serial port, if nothing else works. I'd also check your computer's innards for a parallel port