Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-09 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Luca, On 1/9/06, Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that's an useflag you may use it or not, webapps use webapp-config that > already handles /srv w/out any problem, having the base webroot using > srvdir would be nice so you spare a couple of mv but that's all... > > lu I haven't read

[gentoo-dev] New global USE flag - gs

2006-01-09 Thread Lares Moreau
media-gfx/graphicsmagick:gs - enable ghostscript support media-gfx/imagemagick:gs - enable ghostscript support media-libs/urt:gs - Add support for postscript Looking in these ebuilds, all: gs? ( virtual/ghostscript ) Please make global. -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://c

Re: [gentoo-dev] [dRFC] slotted mysql ready

2006-01-09 Thread Francesco Riosa
Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: [...] >> >> An eselect-mysql module has been prepared to create simlinks for the >> desired version of mysql making easy to switch between them (hopefully) >> >> The libraries (libmysqlclient & co) don't follow this logic and the >> higher version is always the default (simi

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Stuart Herbert wrote: Which packages do you want to add the srvdir global USE flag for? fenice has support for it in at configure level, gentoo-webroot-default could enjoy it as well as apache may provide an alternate default too. lu -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [dRFC] slotted mysql ready

2006-01-09 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Francesco Riosa wrote: > Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: > [...] > >>>An eselect-mysql module has been prepared to create simlinks for the >>>desired version of mysql making easy to switch between them (hopefully) >>> >>>The libraries (libmysqlclient & co) don't follow this logic and the >>>higher version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 09 January 2006 03:14, Marius Mauch wrote: > Find a nice place in www.gentoo.org/proj/ Okay that's what I try to do most of the time, in this specific case, I'm probably going to ask for space to qa project (as fixing --as-needed problems or parallel make issues and such is imho QA-rela

[gentoo-dev] OpenPGP keyservers

2006-01-09 Thread Paweł Madej
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, In portage there is only one keyserver named Onak. It is quite unusable for me, so I've looked for other keyservers. I've found three quite common on the internet: CKS - http://www.cryptnet.net/fsp/cks/ SKS - http://www.nongnu.org/sks/ PKS - h

[gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Roy Marples
Hi It's been brought to my attention that dnsmasq and acpid use start-stop-daemon to send custom signals such as HUP. While this works with baselayout-1.11, it does not work with baselayout-1.12 The start-stop-daemon-binary has to have either a --start or --stop option. Now I read this as two

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:32:32PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > So, the question now must be, do we allow start-stop-daemon to defy calling > logic and NOT stop a daemon? How do we know we're not supposed to stop the > daemon based on a custom signal? The answer is we can't. So instead of > > sta

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 09 January 2006 12:40, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:32:32PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > > So, the question now must be, do we allow start-stop-daemon to defy > > calling logic and NOT stop a daemon? How do we know we're not supposed to > > stop the daemon based

Re: [gentoo-dev] [dRFC] slotted mysql ready

2006-01-09 Thread Francesco Riosa
Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: > Francesco Riosa wrote: >> Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: [...] > > Now this is in my mind, a mind that looks for bugs and troubles before they come out. That's exactly what I'm looking for ;-) > > If mysql is slotted (and you said it it will be soon), what will happen to softwa

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 09 January 2006 07:32, Roy Marples wrote: > It's been brought to my attention that dnsmasq and acpid use > start-stop-daemon to send custom signals such as HUP. While this works with > baselayout-1.11, it does not work with baselayout-1.12 is this due to changes we are making in Gentoo ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Aron Griffis
Brian Harring wrote:[Sun Jan 08 2006, 09:16:36PM EST] > Regardless, (imo) it's already been laid out why guideXML'ifying > everything doesn't totally work. Three reasons... > > A) bit of work required just to jot down a quick list of "this is > broke, fix it" that's going to be thrown out 2

[gentoo-dev] ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Andrea Barisani
Regarding the inclusion of ca-certificates as a PDEPEND (yeah a brief exchange of emails already happened on -dev but since it's not so easy to track it I'm lagging behind on this) I would like to express that I really don't like the fact that we are "trusting" cacert.org certs (among others) with

[gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread solar
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 16:55 +0100, Andrea Barisani wrote: > Regarding the inclusion of ca-certificates as a PDEPEND (yeah a brief > exchange of emails already happened on -dev but since it's not so easy to > track it I'm lagging behind on this) I would like to express that I really > don't like the

[gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Andrea Barisani
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 16:55 +0100, Andrea Barisani wrote: > > Regarding the inclusion of ca-certificates as a PDEPEND (yeah a brief > > exchange of emails already happened on -dev but since it's not so easy to > > track it I'm lagging behind

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:12:31PM +0100, Andrea Barisani wrote: > USE=cacerts sounds the proper course of action to me. If this is implemented, please make it USE=cacert, not USE=cacerts. ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd pgpdOk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Jakub Moc
9.1.2006, 17:12:31, Andrea Barisani wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: >> >> Do you think the PDEPEND of the ca-certs should be tied to a USE= flag? >> If so should it be a 'no*certs' flag or a USE=cacerts ? > USE=cacerts sounds the proper course of action to me.

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 09:22:59AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > is this due to changes we are making in Gentoo ? i.e. we've just been > importing ssd from Debian for the most part and i dont really think we should > be diverging in behavior ... Both dnsmasq and acpid have been fixed to use `k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Andrea Barisani wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: > >>On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 16:55 +0100, Andrea Barisani wrote: >> >>>Regarding the inclusion of ca-certificates as a PDEPEND (yeah a brief >>>exchange of emails already happened on -dev but since it's not so easy to >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Andrea Barisani
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: > > 9.1.2006, 17:12:31, Andrea Barisani wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: > > >> > >> Do you think the PDEPEND of the ca-certs should be tied to a USE= flag? > >> If so should it be a 'no*certs' flag or

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 09 January 2006 14:22, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 09 January 2006 07:32, Roy Marples wrote: > > It's been brought to my attention that dnsmasq and acpid use > > start-stop-daemon to send custom signals such as HUP. While this works > > with baselayout-1.11, it does not work with ba

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Tom Martin
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:34:22 -0500 Aron Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Harring wrote: [Sun Jan 08 2006, 09:16:36PM EST] > > Regardless, (imo) it's already been laid out why guideXML'ifying > > everything doesn't totally work. Three reasons... > > > > A) bit of work required just to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:28:04PM +0100, Andrea Barisani wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: > > > > 9.1.2006, 17:12:31, Andrea Barisani wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: > > > > >> > > >> Do you think the PDEPEND of the ca-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Jakub Moc wrote: 9.1.2006, 17:12:31, Andrea Barisani wrote: On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: Do you think the PDEPEND of the ca-certs should be tied to a USE= flag? If so should it be a 'no*certs' flag or a USE=cacerts ? USE=cacerts sounds the proper course of act

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 04:32:28PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > hostapd I've just updated hostapd ~ARCH to use kill. Regards, Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd pgpysdQP3Z21L.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Jakub Moc
9.1.2006, 17:28:04, Andrea Barisani wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: >> >> 9.1.2006, 17:12:31, Andrea Barisani wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Do you think the PDEPEND of the ca-certs should be tied to a U

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Jakub Moc
9.1.2006, 17:56:30, Luca Barbato wrote: > Jakub Moc wrote: >> 9.1.2006, 17:12:31, Andrea Barisani wrote: >> >> >>>On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: > Just add it as DEPEND and everybody would be fine, isn't it? Not a realplayer issue (see the other mail). -- jakub pg

Re: [gentoo-dev] [dRFC] slotted mysql ready

2006-01-09 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Francesco Riosa wrote: >> Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: >> [...] >> "{{{ A hypothetical example: >> >> I used mysql-4.1.16-r30 and I have a locally encoded (say Shift_JIS) >> database. I have DBD-mysql compiled against that and a package FOO using >> that works as expected. >> >> Some package wants >=

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Andrea Barisani
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 06:03:03PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: > > 9.1.2006, 17:28:04, Andrea Barisani wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: > >> > >> 9.1.2006, 17:12:31, Andrea Barisani wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote: > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 08 January 2006 18:59, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Okay let's forget the flames and talk about something related to > practical development today :) Sigh ok no practical development at this come out as a discussion/flame again. What I was thinking of is _not_: - a wiki writable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Harring
Sending this to the ml, tom already has heard the reasons but throwing them out for others to comment on... On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 04:47:57PM +, Tom Martin wrote: > > I realize this doesn't address the *rest* of what you said, though... > These little 'howtos' are potentially very short,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Tom Martin
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:47:57 + Tom Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:34:22 -0500 > Aron Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Brian Harring wrote:[Sun Jan 08 2006, 09:16:36PM EST] > > > Regardless, (imo) it's already been laid out why guideXML'ifying > > > e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 09 January 2006 18:11, Andrea Barisani wrote: > Yeah it could be treated as a bug, I'd rather fix that by patching wget > (--dont-be-a-pain-with-self-signed-certs yes) or anyway at *that* layer and > not by adding ca-certificates as a DEPEND since it has other implications > that we alrea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Grant Goodyear
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: [Sun Jan 08 2006, 11:59:40AM CST] > I originally thought of putting it on my devspace, but using GuideXML > there is a bit tricky, at least for me (as xsltproc seems to refuse > working on the pure xml directly). I actually prefer devspace for these sorts of docs.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Jan Kundrát
Grant Goodyear wrote: > Again, I like devspace for these things. Of course, particularly useful > docs would likely be adopted by the GDP (with the permission of the > author, of course). Thinking about legal issues (and about tracking all contributors among developers) - please use CC-BY-SA [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Albertson
Grant Goodyear wrote: > Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: [Sun Jan 08 2006, 11:59:40AM CST] > >>I originally thought of putting it on my devspace, but using GuideXML >>there is a bit tricky, at least for me (as xsltproc seems to refuse >>working on the pure xml directly). > > > I actually prefer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Tom Martin
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:11:42 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And IIRC ciaranm said it took quite a while to render the devmanual > from RST to HTML, would be difficult to sync hourly then. The devmanual has an an enormous number of links, citations and cross referenc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 09 January 2006 21:04, Tom Martin wrote: > The devmanual has an an enormous number of links, citations and cross > references. I'd imagine that's what really takes time to generate. For > things like this, it would be very fast. Might be good to test moinmoin's RST support then. -- Dieg

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 09 January 2006 11:56, Brian Harring wrote: >Curl won't honor/use the cacerts package for example it does actually, re-emerge it after ca-certificates -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag - gs

2006-01-09 Thread Drake Wyrm
Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > media-gfx/graphicsmagick:gs - enable ghostscript support > media-gfx/imagemagick:gs - enable ghostscript support > media-libs/urt:gs - Add support for postscript > > Looking in these ebuilds, all: > gs? ( virtual/ghostscript ) For how many of these might

[gentoo-dev] A New Linux Way

2006-01-09 Thread Mark Stewart
Subject line: A New Linux Way Text as follows: Hello fellow Linux Users! We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. Please visit the website for more information, but here is the purpose: Saviour Linux is an easy and universal Linux distribution that pays community

Re: [gentoo-dev] A New Linux Way

2006-01-09 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 1/9/06, Mark Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Subject line: > A New Linux Way Learn to send emails correctly? > > Text as follows: > > Hello fellow Linux Users! > > We here at SaviourLinux.com desire to create a united universal way. > Please visit the website for more information, but h

Re: [gentoo-dev] A New Linux Way

2006-01-09 Thread Dale
Dan Meltzer wrote: Please don't spam other distrobutions mailing lists with your trash. Thank you! Personally, I would rather donate money to the one I am using and like than to $BUY$ and have to learn another distro. I also went to the site and can't even figure out how to get the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:45:01PM +, Luis Medinas wrote: > We could start a public wiki displaying all herds and projects. It would > be great to add some low level docs, herds/project goals, ideas and so. > Even the users could be allowed to edit and share information. I would personally wel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Albertson
Sven Vermeulen wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:45:01PM +, Luis Medinas wrote: > >>We could start a public wiki displaying all herds and projects. It would >>be great to add some low level docs, herds/project goals, ideas and so. >>Even the users could be allowed to edit and share informati

Re: [gentoo-dev] A New Linux Way

2006-01-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 09 January 2006 22:40, Mark Stewart wrote: > Please contact me if you are interested. thank you captain douche please unsubscribe yourself from our lists and never stop by again -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Vermeulen wrote: | We have already received many bugs for documentation in /proj/* which is | not GDPs. I had no issue with this as I hoped this would be a transient | state where the documentation is eventually handed over to the GDP so that | b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: | What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of course, that | doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I like the idea of using | RST, but it doesn't seem very scalable at this time. Maybe, instead of | that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Albertson
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > | What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of course, that > | doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I like the idea of using > | RST, but it doesn't seem very scalable at this time. Maybe, instead of > | that, we created so