Fwd: [Vote]: ASP.NET support for httpd project?

2004-03-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
ono, and >ultimately support an Apache.Web.Hosting interface with complete bindings >into the Apache httpd Web Server 2.0 - supporting an array of platforms. > >Votes, comments and volunteers appreciated :) > >Bill > >At 03:52 PM 2/3/2004, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: &

RE: [Vote]: ASP.NET support for httpd project?

2004-03-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 05:03 PM 3/15/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >All in all, I think it is a fine idea. One thing caught my attention, and >that was the comment: > >> The initial code contribution would consist of: >> >> Support the Microsoft ASP.NET System.Web.Hosting interface from >> within the Apache httpd

RE: [Vote]: ASP.NET support for httpd project?

2004-03-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 07:00 PM 3/15/2004, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >At 05:03 PM 3/15/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > >>The phrase "Support the Microsoft ASP.NET System.Web.Hosting interface" >>raises concern with me, due to Microsoft's .NET patents and copyrights. > &g

RE: [Vote]: ASP.NET support for httpd project?

2004-03-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 05:03 PM 3/15/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >The phrase "Support the Microsoft ASP.NET System.Web.Hosting interface" >raises concern with me, due to Microsoft's .NET patents and copyrights. Here is something fascinating... http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG

httpd subproject Apache.Web update

2004-06-23 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
to support a wide range of CLI bindings. Referred to Incubation: Apache HTTP Server project Code Origin: William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED], Covalent Assignment: CLA on file; code grant from Covalent on file Developer's List: [...?] (need to locate existing list) Initial Codebase: http:/

httpd subproject mod_aspdotnet / Apache.Web update

2004-07-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
and solicit the support of CLI implementors to support a wide range of CLI bindings. Referred to Incubation: Apache HTTP Server project Code Origin: William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED], Covalent Assignment: CLA on file; code grant from Covalent on file Developer's List: [...?] (need to

New SVN repositories - httpd cli-dev subproject

2004-07-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Gents, could someone assist in creating the following SVN structure... incubator/[existing] httpd/ [for incubating any httpd subproject efforts] cli/ [for the cli - asp.net efforts] site/[website/docs area] mod_aspdotnet/[module contributio

[EMAIL PROTECTED] subproject Incubation Status

2004-07-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
In March '04, the httpd PMC referred the mod_aspdotnet contribution (Code Grant ack'ed in rev 1.7 of foundation/grants.txt) for incubation. The project was recently picked back up, with Will Rowe now having the cycles to devote to the care and feeding required of incubation. Ian Holsman, also an h

Re: Where proposal should be sent?

2004-10-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 07:21 PM 9/30/2004, hammett wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> We have a CLI project in the Incubator to run CLI applications (.NET being >> Microsoft's proprietary and patented technology on top of the CLI). There >> are people interested in

Re: Castle proposal

2004-10-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:50 PM 10/1/2004, hammett wrote: >Hello, > >I've submitted the first draft for your appreciation. >http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CastleProposal FYI, the understanding of mono and the mod_aspdotnet projects is that it's not a violation to connect to a Microsoft ASP.NET implementation, but t

Re: Castle proposal

2004-10-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 07:02 PM 10/1/2004, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >FYI, the understanding of mono and the mod_aspdotnet projects >is that it's not a violation to connect to a Microsoft ASP.NET >implementation, but that some of the ASP.NET implementation >itself is trademarked, and best avoide

Re: Where proposal should be sent?

2004-10-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 09:51 PM 10/1/2004, hammett wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> I'm curious about the interoperability this could provide us, as >> we hope to extend to MS NET, mono, etc, an httpd module API. &g

Re: Castle proposal

2004-10-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 09:56 PM 10/1/2004, hammett wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> FYI, the understanding of mono and the mod_aspdotnet projects >> is that it's not a violation to connect to a Microsoft ASP.N

Fwd: failure notice

2004-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Can someone with the right apmail karma ensure we don't discard such commit messages? I forwarded all to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so the record is straight. Bill >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: 7 Oct 2004 14:34:58 - >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTE

mod_aspdotnet graduation, please vote

2004-10-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: mod_aspdotnet release candidate, please vote >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >RC1 available for testing, from http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ >Please download and vote for or against 2.0.0 rel

Re: projects/httpd-cli.html (Was: svn commit: rev 56140 ...)

2004-10-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 08:47 PM 10/31/2004, you wrote: >wrowe wrote: >> >> Thanks Ian for harvesting these from the forrest - could someone >> migrate his perms from incubator-site to the incubator/public tree? > >I don't understand what you mean Bill. I didn't have forest installed - I just finished fighting th

Re: mod_aspdotnet graduation, please vote

2004-11-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
ree +1's (beyond my own +1's) for it's adoption by the httpd pmc as its own subproject, and no 0's / -1's. The incubation committees' vote to graduate the cli-dev subproject at this point would be most appreciated. Respectfully, Bill At 07:06 PM 10/30/2004, William A

[nudge] mod_aspdotnet graduation steps?

2004-11-04 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Committee folk, the cli-dev incubating subproject recently voted to release the v2.0.0 of mod_aspdotnet, and the httpd project has voted to adopt this subproject as incubated. Is another vote of the incubator itself needed? If so, and there was any objections to my earlier call for a vote, w

RE: mod_aspdotnet graduation, please vote

2004-11-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
On this issue I will vote if I have a voice; +1 here. Believe that httpd and the cli group themselves have both made good decisions. Bill At 02:47 AM 11/16/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Calling for a vote to graduate this project from the incubator, >> for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to further manage i

Re: [JDO] Project Name

2004-12-08 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 07:51 AM 12/8/2004, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >+1 to choose another name. we had a terrible time with "Apache SOAP" :) Apache Bubbles? Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [JDO] Project Name

2004-12-08 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:29 PM 12/8/2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >Apache Lozen ( warrior woman of Geronimos days, said to be able to predict the >movement of the enemy). For good or ill, Apache (a-patch-y) or the collective name attributed to some tribes by outsiders, the name isn't going to go away any sooner than

Re: out-of-date content for automated STATUS message

2005-02-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
CVS vs. the new SVN? Ken could fix it faster if you copy him and share the proper resource locator on svn. Bill At 10:57 PM 2/9/2005, David Crossley wrote: >Where is the automated job that sends this announcement? >It is using an old version of the content. It was updated >ages ago to fix those

Re: nutch graduation?

2005-04-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 02:01 PM 4/19/2005, Roy T.Fielding wrote: >On Apr 18, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > >>I suppose we could also transfer the Nutch copyright, trademark, logo, etc. >>if desired. Nutch does not have a registered trademark. I don't know >>whether any of this is worthwhile. The Nutch n

Re: Proposal for STDCXX

2005-06-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 03:43 PM 6/1/2005, Martin Sebor wrote: >GNU libstdc++ is a fine implementation of the standard but its >big limitation is its dependency on gcc. What differentiates >our implementation is its portability to all the other compilers >besides gcc, which on most platforms other than Linux is still

Re: Proposal for STDCXX

2005-06-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 06:45 PM 6/1/2005, Martin Sebor wrote: >William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> >>Can you give us a sense of the 'currently' supported platforms >>and compilers? > >The C++ Standard Library project has been ported to the following >compilers and operatin

Re: Proposal for STDCXX

2005-06-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 10:10 PM 6/1/2005, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: >On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:55:01PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> I'm willing to serve as either mentor or ppmc member, as you will. >> +1 to STDCXX -entering- incubation. > >Glad to hear it. You can help me and

Subversion / Projects under incubation

2005-06-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 09:15 AM 6/6/2005, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: >I think its getting to be the right time to move HiveMind to >Subversion. It's part of the plan at Jakarta that all projects >eventually be under SVN. Thanks for the update Howard. As a general comment about SCC and the incubator, perhaps it is time

Re: Preferred list for Commiter Votes

2005-06-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 09:16 AM 6/21/2005, Ted Husted wrote: >Is it mandatory that Committer votes be held on a public list? The Foundation is modeled after the "Apache Group", which always held discussion of individuals on private 'core' lists. >Or is the decision between pmc@ and dev@ left to the discretion of a

Re: svn commit: r178965 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-author/learn/newcommitters.html

2005-07-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 02:49 AM 7/6/2005, David Crossley wrote: >Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> >> [snip]... What the vote does is three things: >> >> 1) it provides a legally binding, public decision of the project; > >I am confused by that statement. We conduct our committer votes on >the project's private mailing li

RE: svn commit: r178965 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-author/learn/newcommitters.html

2005-07-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 10:24 PM 7/6/2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >Notice that Roy said legal AND public. Haven't you ever noticed the seeming >disconnect between having the discussion (and vote) in private, and the >instructions to the PMC that they should send a link to the vote thread as >part of the account reque

Re: svn commit: r178965 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-author/learn/newcommitters.html

2005-07-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 05:42 AM 7/7/2005, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >On Jul 6, 2005, at 3:42 AM, Ted Husted wrote: > >>IMHO, the idea of discussing the vote on the PMC list and then having >>the vote on the dev@ list sounds better on paper than in practice. In >>practice, the discussion becomes the vote, and creating a s

Re: svn commit: r178965 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-author/learn/newcommitters.html

2005-07-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:16 PM 7/7/2005, Ted Husted wrote: >On 7/7/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't believe we should have PMC >> lists (only dev and private), which is why your scenario doesn't >> apply in my model of how a project works. > >Could someone clarify on the difference between

Re: svn commit: r178965 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-author/learn/newcommitters.html

2005-07-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:12 PM 7/7/2005, Jean T. Anderson wrote: >For example, from various list threads (including some on this list) I'm >gathering that a private list is necessary for discussions about: > > - personnel decisions > - legal points > - negotiations (could use a little expansion) Personnel de

RE: svn commit: r178965 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-author/learn/newcommitters.html

2005-07-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 02:16 PM 7/7/2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >Roy T. Fielding wrote: > >> I understand the concerns, but I still feel that project decisions >> should always be made in public. How about if the vote takes place >> in private and the announcement includes the final vote naming >> those who voted? >

Re: Derby 10.1 incubating release

2005-07-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 04:30 PM 7/15/2005, Andrew McIntyre wrote: >Andrew McIntyre wrote: >> Hello Incubator, >> >> On behalf of the Derby development community, I'd like to request >> permission to post the files you can find here: >> >> http://people.apache.org/~fuzzylogic/derby_10.1/ >[...] >Should I have posted

Re: [VOTE] Derby 10.1 incubating release

2005-07-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 02:39 AM 7/16/2005, Andrew McIntyre wrote: >On behalf of the Derby development community, I'd like to request >permission to post the files you can find here: > >http://people.apache.org/~fuzzylogic/derby_10.1/ > >as an incubating release on the Derby website. Ahhh, I did miss the point of you

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:40 PM 7/20/2005, Daniel John Debrunner wrote: >So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB. > >The developer community continues get the Apache Way and its diversity >has increased since the last graduation vote (where it got good reports). > >We've added five new commit

Re: a few steps before approving a project

2005-09-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: On Sep 1, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: IMHO, Incubator CANNOT take a decision based on a proposal. A badly written proposal with best of intentions will not make it and folks will not resubmit stuff just because a similar proj got rejected before. I've always

Re: Recent Incubator proposals ( was Re: a few steps before approving a project)

2005-09-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Davanum Srinivas wrote: Am still waiting for someone to point out to an actual problem ("factually incorrect press releases"). Last time i checked, people pay to put out press releases to make them look good. ("seek to spin Synapse into something that makes other companies look good."). May be j

Re: stdcxx snapshot

2005-09-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Martin Sebor wrote: Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy, we would now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to make the snapshot available via a link from the stdcxx Download page: http://incubator.apache.org/stdcxx/download.html +1 - the next threshold/metr

Re: stdcxx snapshot

2005-09-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Incubator PMC must ratify any votes by the incubated projects, IIUC. Bill Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On September 2, 2005 4:13:31 PM -0500 "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Sebor wrote: Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy, we w

Re: ftp server SSL

2005-10-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Rana Bhattacharyya wrote: Hi, I think SFTP is FTP over SSH. It is not same as using implicit or explicit FTP SSL connection. It's not even. SFTP (as opposed to implicit (ftps:) or explicit ftp:) is a binary protocol that doesn't even resemble ftp, it more closely resembles a client/server

Re: ftp server SSL

2005-10-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Rana Bhattacharyya wrote: Hi, I think SFTP is FTP over SSH. It is not same as using implicit or explicit FTP SSL connection. It's not even. SFTP (as opposed to implicit (ftps:) or explicit ftp:) is a binary protocol that doesn't even resemble ft

Re: ftp server SSL

2005-10-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
It's also in incubation; the mod_ftp module for Apache implements this. It's not in a (trivially) buildable state just yet, but after some serious deliverables later this week for my work - I do intend to return to it and have it compiling for participants in the incubator by early next week. Bil

[Roundtable] Incubate TMCg2?

2005-12-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Although the proposed project has an excellent .pdf overview, I suspect most folks except Mads and I are still a bit clueless of exactly what TMCg2 does today, and whether it fills a need in their own organization or for ASF infra. So Neil will hold a roundtable in the hacker's corner (the loadin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2005-12-14 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Stein, Neil S wrote: To allow my team to manage an ever growing range of web assets, we have developed a web based tool set to manage the entire web infrastructure. Throughout the development of the tool set, the idea of releasing it back to the community that has provided me with so many wo

Re: @domain for Incubator mailing lists

2005-12-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: since it's so easy to move them, should we move the latest projects coming into incubator to @incubator? If the list is relatively new, then yes. It would seem silly to do this to a project that's been around 6 mos+ and is nearing graduation (or the -other- alternati

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2005-12-20 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
It's been 6 days since the introduction to this project at ApacheCon, and two weeks, today, since it was proposed. Votes +1; wrowe, mads, jerenkrantz, jimjag Votes -1; [none] I'll give this one last day to stew, and without further objection, will call the vote and begin creating the incubation-

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

2005-12-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Craig L Russell wrote: Excuse me, but don't we have a -1 on this vote thread already? Is the idea to get Dain to change his vote by piling on more +1? Or have I completely missed the Tao of the voting process in Apache? I think perhaps you have, and are mixing two concepts... Any PMC member (

[Fwd: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2]

2006-01-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Final Results of incubation vote; Votes +1; wrowe, mads, jerenkrantz, jimjag, geirm Votes -1; [none] As such the project is accepted for incubation. Mads and I will handle the TMCg2-ppmc list moderation, while Neil and I will handle the TMCg2-dev list moderation. Jira requests have been create

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-01-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
To publish the initial page the following need to be threshed out... Stein, Neil S wrote: At this time I would like to propose the adoption of the TMCg2 as an incubator project under the ASF. Community: >> [Snip] Need names here, including those who plan to actually participate from beyond t

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2]

2006-01-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 11:15:25PM -0800, Roy Fielding wrote: The proposal was voted +1 by four of the most over-committed members of the ASF. The mentors are already mentoring other podlings. Mads offered to mentor as well, which seems to have been lost in the proc

Incubator; Message Subjects

2006-01-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Folks could I ask a favor? It seems that Incubator has the worst track record of hijaaking threads. I never mind one thread spawning off new thoughts, but could we please change subject lines accordingly when it becomes appropriate? Niclas, I'm sure you see how your posting clearly didn't match

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2]

2006-01-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jan 7, 2006, at 8:15 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Final Results of incubation vote; Votes +1; wrowe, mads, jerenkrantz, jimjag, geirm Votes -1; [none] As such the project is accepted for incubation. The proposal was never added to the wiki. Correct, I&#x

Re: [VOTE] accept Solr into incubator

2006-01-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Doug Cutting wrote: The Lucene PMC would be happy to accept Solr as a Lucene sub-project once it graduates from the incubator. Doug, you can only make this statement with a vote by the Lucene PMC. I'd suggest that the Lucene PMC vote on incubating the proposal. In doing so, the Lucene proje

Re: Collecting Proposed changes

2006-01-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Totally agree with Justin straight down the line. One additional thought; -1 / No: - Petition the Board to require Incubator PMC VOTE to begin incubation process even for projects that other PMC's want to sponsor. Now, we are the Board's committee to found new projects. That said, we can't

Re: [VOTE] Changes to Incubator process(es)

2006-01-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
+1 - Any proposal should hit [EMAIL PROTECTED] first, No PR before that. You state 'should'. Reality dictates mistakes will be made on this point. +1 - Any PR should be vetted by PRC, No Excuses. Although it's the PRC that dictates PRC policy. -1 - Any new proposal should have 3 ASF Members /

Re: [VOTE] Changes to Incubator process(es)

2006-01-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Brian McCallister wrote: [ -1 ] - IP Clearance needs to be preceded by a proposal posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well A PMC isn't allowed to discuss wanting to bring code in? [ +1 ] - IP Clearance has to be OK'ed by Incubator PMC VOTE (before code gets checked in to a sponsoring project's

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-01-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Stein, Neil S wrote: Hi, It'd be nice to have an alternative." Point taken An alternate would be "Ohana" ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohana Although TMC is fairly bland (and therefore, fine ;-) I rather like both of the proposed alternatives. Kowa, unlike alot of other Native Am

Lost, where's site-author/site.xml gone?

2006-02-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Following literal directions in projects/incubation-status-template.xml :-? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[STOP] FUD Clarification

2006-02-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Greg Wilkins wrote: I disagree that all contributions must go via the incubator. This is clearly within the scope of servicemix and there is no need to develope a community around this code. All code contributions MUST be vetted by the incubator PMC. Only a PMC is authorized by the board to

Re: Incubation vs. Donating Code to Existing Project

2006-02-04 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
In this case, if the Xerces folks don't want to take responsibility for creating the community / committment to the code, then they absolutely can ask for the code to undergo the full incubuation process. But if they choose instead to assume responsibility for the long term committment to this ac

Re: Board reporting change for the Incubator

2006-02-04 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I don't think anyone has told the Incubator this (perhaps we have and I just missed it), but, at the last Board meeting, the Board discussed that the Incubator should divide its projects for reporting purposes and submit a sub-collection of podling reports each month rath

Re: CCLA

2006-02-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
You don't; that is - it's up to the iCLA signer to represent that they have the legal authority to sign the darned thing. A cCLA kicks in when 1) the -company- is granting code, on a continuing basis, and wants to make clear that all ongoing corporate-owned IP continues to be granted to the ASF f

Re: [doc] podling software releases

2006-02-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Leo Simons wrote: Well, that's I think the official rules of most projects. In practice what I've seen happen usually is that when someone throws a -1 its for a serious reason and the vote is simply aborted, the problem is fixed, and a new release is made. Just t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-02-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
I'm sorry to report, as I was preparing projects/ohana.xml, that I've come across http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/Instruments/Elixir/Ohana/ in a simple search of "ohana program" on google :-/ Brings up another question, why are we still pointing our template.xml for the project to look at nameprot

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-02-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
ustin Erenkrantz wrote: On 2/15/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: project name, I think we shouldn't have any issues. Is "Apache Ohana" enough of a multiword mark, though? I believe so. -- justin -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-02-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
uot; http://rosasay.typepad.com/mwacalendar/2005/03/lkahi.html Neil Stein phone -- 908-423-4297 -Original Message----- From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:17 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org; Stein, Neil S Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-02-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
n, Neil S wrote: If Ohana proves to have enough negative drivers, The name can go to Apache Lokahi Which translates to "harmony and unity." http://rosasay.typepad.com/mwacalendar/2005/03/lkahi.html Neil Stein phone -- 908-423-4297 -Original Message----- From: William A.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-02-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Mads Toftum wrote: I'm sorry, but I'll have to withdraw my offer to help mentoring this project. Understandable, and thanks for being honest with the time you can commit... it's probably the hardest thing for dedicated voulenteers to do. With that said, are there others with the energy to help

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-02-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Stein, Neil S wrote: If Ohana proves to have enough negative drivers, The name can go to Apache Lokahi Which translates to "harmony and unity." http://rosasay.typepad.com/mwacalendar/2005/03/lkahi.html Other than the one link which was not apparently adopted, and several community/pen pal pro

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-02-17 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I personally find googling a project far more useful, and there appear to be no conflicts with your new proposal, other than the fact that another project, Echo, seems to have floated the same potential name. As long as we clarify with them that they haven't/

site frustration

2006-02-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Trying to prepare lohaki.xml for commit; the existing format's impossible to 'visualize' without generating the site (damn, where did .cwiki format go, anyways). So trying to gen it here... http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/README http://incubator.apache.org/guides/websi

Re: site frustration

2006-02-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jean T. Anderson wrote: The incubator site has a build.sh at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/build.sh This appeared with an svn up, thank you for the pointer Jean :) (After, of course, I surrendered and got ant configured lol)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Toback, Steve wrote: As far as I can tell, we have our paperwork in, name chosen, and proposal accepted. Is there anything else we need at this point in order to get our space as a podling and begin growing our community? Not alot you can do but thank you for some help in composing the startin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
is project does, I'd certainly understand, and encourage you at least to subscribe to the mailing list, once provisioned, from the beginning. Yours, Bill William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Mads Toftum wrote: I'm sorry, but I'll have to withdraw my offer to help mentoring this project. U

Re: [REQUEST] IP Clearance For Jakarta Commons Composite Pool

2006-03-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Robert, i've prepared the paperwork to clear a donation of code to Jakarta. i don't have incubator site karma so i've attached the patch to this JIRA: https://issues.apache.org:443/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-15. The stuff must be filed properly in source control, not attach

Re: [REQUEST] IP Clearance For Jakarta Commons Composite Pool

2006-03-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 3/7/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AIUI only the ASF secretary has the authority to modify code grants, because they are only valid when received at the ASF central office. Any Director or Officer can receive documents on behalf

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Thanks for your question Noel, it's the one answer I'm looking for before casting a vote. Bill Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roy, In general, looks fine. Would you please put JackRabbit on this month's Board report, since it is going up for a vote? Can you confirm the community diversity? That is

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Can you confirm the community diversity? That is one thing I could not tell straight off, although I do note the comment in July 2005 about crossing the threshold, and observe that there have been at least 4 committers

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Jackrabbit to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I wouldn't have the same concern graduating this podling into a diverse TLP as a new subproject, so I cast +1 at graduating into an existing TLP. As a subproject of a larger existing PMC they would address the issue of diversity in that forum, instead of in incu

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: We have the notion of a PPMC, but I don't believe that we are making as effective use of them as we should. This is effecting our ability to scale, and allowing things to fall into the cracks. In addition, people are not as clear as they should be on how the Incubation Pr

Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs

2006-03-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project -1. +1 to encourage 3+ to mentor, but it's not worth having folks step up to mentor a project simply because 'they need three' - quoting Justin's tho

Re: Incubator PMC membership

2006-03-14 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I'm curious, how does one get into the Incubator PMC? It's open to all members now with a simple ping - ack - short wait cycle. All members interested in contributing to this effort are welcomed if they would help provide the mentoring and oversight that Incubator require

Re: Quick announcement

2006-03-14 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Since this didn't hit general@incubator.apache.org, it looks like we can simply submit next month (when there will be more to report.) drtobes wrote: Project is just starting incubation. [i]CLAs are on file for the initial committers. A CCLA has been received for the initial contribution of Java

Re: Incubator PMC membership

2006-03-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: So, ASF corporate members can become members. That fits in with my understanding as well since, IIUC, ASF corporate members can join any PMC that they wish. That's not -quite- accurate. ASF Foundation members can read and chime in on any PMC, as most internal corresp

Re: Incubator PMC membership

2006-03-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I'm not complaining, just making an observation which may be incorrect. No, your point was dead on. Which is why I expect very few if any new Incubator PMC members to be brought in. s/new Incubator PMC members/new non-ASF m

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenJPA as an Incubator Podling

2006-03-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenJPAProposal Please vote on acceptance of this proposal. The vote will run 1 week until Sunday, March 26, 2006 or until all Incubator PMC members have voted. [X] +1 Accept the OpenJPA proposal and +1 to lazy commit access,

Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 1.2.10rc2 release of log4net

2006-04-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Mark Womack wrote: The log4net project and Logging Services PMC voted on and has approved a proposal to release log4net 1.2.10 (rc2). Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and we would now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the distribution on th

Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 1.2.10rc2 release of log4net

2006-04-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Don't crosspost public and private lists! Votes about projects belong on the public general@ list. Votes about individuals belong on the pmc@ private list. William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Mark Womack wrote: The log4net project and Logging Services PMC voted on and has approved a propos

Re: New WS subproject proposal, wsabi4axis

2006-04-14 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Davanum Srinivas wrote: Al, Have you looked at the Lokahi proposal? http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lokahi.html One console to admin Apache/Tomcat/Axis/Axis2 FWIW - the source code arrived last week (if you hadn't noted this yet from the Lokahi board status report). Lokahi is welcom

[Attention] Incubator Status Reporters

2006-04-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
... don't forget to update your respective https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/{proj}.xml files and keep them in sync with 'reported' status ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: New WS subproject proposal, wsabi4axis

2006-04-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Davanum Srinivas wrote: There has not been any traffic at all on any of the ws mailing lists...nor any votes. If lokahi folks are interested then they can push the effort. lokahi is pull not push :) That is, any project with committers interested in integrating into the Lokahi management frame

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Understand there is a radical difference between majority, consensus and unanimity. The HTTP Server project has successfully operated by unanimity, although many of us have experience of having the single holdout block progress. I don't believe majority is sufficient in these sorts of matters.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation

2010-12-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/23/2010 8:11 PM, James Purser wrote: > While Google owns the Google Wave trademark, they don't own the very generic > "Wave". > > Apache Wave will be a separate thing and unaffected by any trademark that > Google owns. Wrong. The ASF is always affected by other's Trademarks, which is why w

Re: Open64 Inquiry: Apache Incubator Project

2011-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/31/2011 11:22 AM, Aida Rivas wrote: > Hello > Our Open64.net steering committee is exploring the idea of submission as an > Apache Incubator Project, and one of the concerns is the Apache 2.0 license > status regarding whether or not it's compatible with GPL > since Open64 is currently using

Re: Voting waiting period

2011-02-14 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/12/2011 10:57 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf > wrote: >> Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500: >>> On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote: Bertrand, I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that the

Re: Voting waiting period

2011-02-15 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/15/2011 5:33 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:54 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. > wrote: >> On 2/12/2011 10:57 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf >>> wrote: >>>> Phil Steitz wrote on Sat,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Rave project

2011-02-23 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/21/2011 5:18 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > > The Apache Rave project proposal is a joined effort of Hippo, the MITRE > Corporation, the > Open Gateway Computing Environments project (OGCE), the SURFnet SURFConext > Portal project, > OSS Watch, and several other individuals. Keep in mind that only

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Rave project

2011-02-25 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/25/2011 4:25 AM, Troy Howard wrote: > My point was: > > Bill made a statement, which though rather neutral and ambiguous, > seemed to indicate that he (or perhaps a silent mass of others) did > not think the proposal was such a good idea, due to the risks > associated with a significant amoun

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