Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:49:01AM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I knew that many did not want renamings to occur, being touted as
"expensive", so I still stand behind my last proposal (that has been
trimmed here) which seems to me like a possible "compromise":
I'll
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:49:01AM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> I knew that many did not want renamings to occur, being touted as
> "expensive", so I still stand behind my last proposal (that has been
> trimmed here) which seems to me like a possible "compromise":
I'll just chime in belate
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Whoops. There is a line in there :
"Where capitalised, these terms are to be used as per the definitions
found in RFC 2119 (Reference)."
So I think I was thinking (which is a lot of thinking) the same thing :>.
Will fix.
Fix what? Looks like you already did it. I was l
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > The draft seems to be using RFC 2119
(http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt)
> > terminology. If so, let's please reference the RFC early in the
document so
> > that readers can find the operation definitions (thus establishing
common
> > volcabul
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the . Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until
a further review indicates that the infrastructure, communications,
and decision making
On 03 Oct 2003 09:20:53 -0400
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My simple question about who is actually on the PMC has also gone
> unanswered, though it has only been three days.
By the way, Jason, why don't you take a glance at
"committers" module: /board/committee-info.txt
??
(Howev
RoUS said,
> > People often lost the precious e-mails due to the current
> > Here "SPAM"
> > There "SPAM"
> > Everywhere "SPAM", "SPAM"
> oh, you mean like all the 'apache newsletter' messages i've received
> on just about every single asf list i'm on?
Iyaannn :-) Apparently they were
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The draft seems to be using RFC 2119 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt)
terminology. If so, let's please reference the RFC early in the document so
that readers can find the operation definitions (thus establishing common
volcabulary).
Whoops. There is a line in there :
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> [lots of really good stuff]
The draft seems to be using RFC 2119 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt)
terminology. If so, let's please reference the RFC early in the document so
that readers can find the operation definitions (thus establishing common
volcabulary).
Dav
Julie,
> I'm still trying to figure out how everything works around
> here. Any and all constructive feedback is welcome.
And we are trying to improve the incubation process, so please feel free to
make constructive suggestions as to what is/isn't working, and how you feel
things can be improved
David Jencks wrote:
As podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software
Foundation, any software releases (including code held in publically
available CVS) made by Podlings will not be endorsed by the ASF.
Podlings in Incubation SHALL NOT perform any releases of software
Sam Ruby wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
...
It seems to me a disclaimer on the website, perhaps also in the root
directory of the associated CVS trees, and a process which prevents
any official "release" to be created by projects in incubation should
be more than sufficient.
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> People often lost the precious e-mails due to the current
> Here "SPAM"
> There "SPAM"
> Everywhere "SPAM", "SPAM"
oh, you mean like all the 'apache newsletter' messages i've received
on just about every single asf list i'm on?
> In the business world, "inbubation"/
David Jencks wrote:
On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 03:20 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
== Releases ==
As podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software
Foundation, any software releases (including code held in publically
available CVS) made by Podlings will not be endorse
On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 03:20 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
== Releases ==
As podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software
Foundation, any software releases (including code held in publically
available CVS) made by Podlings will not be endorsed by the ASF.
Po
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit
more
involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
address
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache
Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the . Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until
a further review indicates that the infrastructure, communications,
and decision making process have stabilized
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:49:01 +0200
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sorry, but this has not worked.
I guess you had a karma for jakarta-site2 and you had left
1. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..
at http://jakarta.apache.org/sit
All,
FWIW - the following is the extract (at time of writing) from the draft
Policy document relating to the current discussion.
I am about to move this into the drafts section of the site, so people
can start hacking within CVS.
Cheers,
Berin
= Podling Constraints =
== Branding ==
P
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
From my point of view, "disclaimer" page would be enough and
the best "alternative".
+1
--
Stephen J. McConnell
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional comm
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:49:01 +0200
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, but this has not worked.
I guess you had a karma for jakarta-site2 and you had left
1. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..
at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
as the
Sam Ruby wrote:
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit
more
involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
address changed from [EMAIL PROTEC
Sam Ruby wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
...
Good point. My post was more aimed at the people who are shepherding the
project (e.g. Sam) rather than the developers. IMO, Sam should know
better, and should have fixed this long ago.
Let me turn this around. You note a problem with a prior project. You
p
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit more
involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
address changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PRO
Greg Stein wrote:
But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about wsrp4j a
couple weeks ago, but it wasn't fixed.
Aha, Okay. I think that the folks in wsrp4j just did not know how
to do. It happens all the time. People should not blame ones' ignorance.
Agreed. And I raised the point tw
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
Can I ask that you document the process of updating the site?
Looks like it's already there, but not very obvious. I will add to the
side-bar, but in the interim :
http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html
Thank you! That is more than sufficient for
Jim Jagielski wrote:
Nicola is sending/has sent to you the result of
the vote.
I was waiting for 72 hours after the ACK of the board, as is required,
to declare you guys in the PMC, but it has leaked out ;-)
In any case, you guys are in :-)
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 02:20 PM, Ted Leung wro
Sam Ruby wrote:
Can I ask that you document the process of updating the site?
Looks like it's already there, but not very obvious. I will add to the
side-bar, but in the interim :
http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html
I want to make sure that there is a set of requirements for what sta
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit
more
> > involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
> > address changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moving
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:45:15 -0700
Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But if NOTHING is done after two weeks, then it is no longer about
> ignorance, but about failure to let people know about the projects' actual
> status. A completely different matter.
People often lost the precious e-mail
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
I'm under the weather, and a little irritable, but this is starting to
get under my skin.
I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
I have asked for this to be updated.
I have asked for information on how I can update this.
Sam,
I a
Sam Ruby wrote:
I'm under the weather, and a little irritable, but this is starting to
get under my skin.
I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
I have asked for this to be updated.
I have asked for information on how I can update this.
Sam,
I am 90% of the way through
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit more
> involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
> address changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Movin
Greg Stein wrote:
> > If we kept all incubated projects under the incubator it would have been
> > clear enough.
> I'm alright with that, but I think we need infrastructure sign-off first.
> If they respond with, "holy crap. moving cvs repositories and mailing
> lists are the biggest pains in the
Sam Ruby wrote:
> I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
> I have asked for this to be updated.
> I have asked for information on how I can update this.
Berin Lautenbach is beginning to update the incubator documents. Apparently
you need to use Forrest. Parenthetically,
Nicola is sending/has sent to you the result of
the vote.
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 02:20 PM, Ted Leung wrote:
On 10/3/2003 10:37 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
My simple question about who is actually on the PMC has also gone
unanswered, though it has only been three days.
Aaron Bannert
N
Added myself to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Yes, my +1 to Berin (if i may).
Thanks,
dims
--- "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ted Leung wrote:
> > On 10/3/2003 10:37 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> > >[The members of the Incubator PMC are:]
> > > Aaron Bannert
> > > Nicola Ken Ba
Ted Leung wrote:
> On 10/3/2003 10:37 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >[The members of the Incubator PMC are:]
> > Aaron Bannert
> > Nicola Ken Barozzi (Chair select)
> > Noel Bergman (new member)
> > Ken Coar
> > Roy Fielding
> > B. W. Fitzpatrick
> > Paul Hammant
> > Ted Leung (new m
On 10/3/2003 10:37 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
My simple question about who is actually on the PMC has also gone
unanswered, though it has only been three days.
Aaron Bannert
Nicola Ken Barozzi (Chair select)
Noel Bergman (new member)
Ken Coar
Roy Fielding
B. W. Fitzpatrick
Pa
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:59, Sam Ruby wrote:
I'm under the weather, and a little irritable, but this is starting to
get under my skin.
I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
I have asked for this to be updated
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 11:59, Sam Ruby wrote:
> I'm under the weather, and a little irritable, but this is starting to
> get under my skin.
>
> I am trying to follow http://incubator.apache.org/process.html
>
> I have asked for this to be updated.
>
> I have asked for information on how I can u
Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 08:38:40PM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
(CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
It seems that the same goes for the JaxMe, too.
Anyway, please take a glance at
http://ws.apache.org/
... section.
That section has zero bearing on the wsrp4j pages themselves. I hit
tho
is welcome.
Original Message
Subject: Fwd: Re: Disclaimer text for incubated projects
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:47:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wsrp dev folks,
PL
Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:10:58PM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700
Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyway, please take a glance at
http://ws.apache.org/
... section.
But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about wsrp4j a
co
Confirmed. Really great job! (Otsukare sama desita)
-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
P.S. I think you can change the URL of the link to "Pluto"
(@ left-side navi on wsrp4j project website):
http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:43:28 -0700 (PDT)
(Subject: Re: Discl
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:19:50PM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Greg Stein wrote:
> ...
> > To what document do I need to add rule that says "a project ABSOLUTELY
> > MUST make clear that it is under incubation?"
>
> If we kept all incubated projects under the incubator it would have been
>
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:10:58PM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700
> Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Anyway, please take a glance at
> > > http://ws.apache.org/
> > > ... section.
>
> > But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about w
Updated http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/ and http://ws.apache.org/wsrp4j with disclaimer
text. Please
review.
Thanks,
dims
--- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700
> Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Anyway, please t
Greg Stein wrote:
...
To what document do I need to add rule that says "a project ABSOLUTELY
MUST make clear that it is under incubation?"
If we kept all incubated projects under the incubator it would have been
clear enough.
We've already been through
this process where incubated projects are n
(CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700
Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyway, please take a glance at
> > http://ws.apache.org/
> > ... section.
> But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about wsrp4j a
> couple weeks ago, but it wasn't fixed.
Aha, Ok
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 08:38:40PM +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> (CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> It seems that the same goes for the JaxMe, too.
>
> Anyway, please take a glance at
> http://ws.apache.org/
> ... section.
That section has zero bearing on the wsrp4j pages themselves. I hit
thos
(CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
It seems that the same goes for the JaxMe, too.
Anyway, please take a glance at
http://ws.apache.org/
... section.
Regards,
-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:00:36 -0700
(Subject: Re: Disclaimer text for incubated projects)
Greg Stein <[EM
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:47:50PM -0400, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > "XMLBeans is an incubated subproject under the sponsorship of the Apache
> > Software Foundation's (ASF) XML project.
>
> it all looks good, except for this. i think i would prefer something
>
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
'XMLBeans is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache Software
Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the ASF's XML Project.'
the original uses the past tense and the semantically semi-null
term 'subproject'.
Sounds reasonable. Since I haven't heard any other opinions, we're
g
On Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:48 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> "XMLBeans is an incubated subproject under the sponsorship of the
>> Apache Software Foundation's (ASF) XML project.
>
> it all looks good, except for this. i think i would prefer something
> like
On 01/10/2003, at 06:47, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
"XMLBeans is an incubated subproject under the sponsorship of the
Apache
Software Foundation's (ASF) XML project.
it all looks good, except for this. i think i would prefer something
like
'XMLBeans is an effort undergoin
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>
> "XMLBeans is an incubated subproject under the sponsorship of the Apache
> Software Foundation's (ASF) XML project.
it all looks good, except for this. i think i would prefer something
like
'XMLBeans is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache Software
Foundation
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