Sam Ruby wrote:
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit more
involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list
address changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Moving the web site was easy.

I'd like to oppose this. (Sorry)

I'd like us to all step back and take a look at the bigger picture.


Apparently, the root of this is a statement that something about the incubation process of Lenya raised hackles. I suggest that there may be multiple root causes for this.

Putting incubator as a part of the name is a form of disclaimer. One that is relatively expensive. I, too, would rather we explore cheaper alternatives before we decided to require this for every project.

It seems to me a disclaimer on the website, perhaps also in the root directory of the associated CVS trees, and a process which prevents any official "release" to be created by projects in incubation should be more than sufficient.

Sorry, but this has not worked.


I knew that many did not want renamings to occur, being touted as "expensive", so I still stand behind my last proposal (that has been trimmed here) which seems to me like a possible "compromise":

    1 - the websites are placed in
        incubator.apache.org/projects/subproject
    2 - these projects have as project logo the Incubator Logo
    3 - They all have as a bottom line disclaimer a note that the roject
        is in incubation

Note that point 2 and 3 have not much to do with infrastructure, and point 1 is not under direct control of this list, as the project members would still have access to the incubator-site module, as part of the project.

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Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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